The Bogart and Katherine Hepburn impersonations (as transcribed); old gas station pumps; Alice's hair; Betsy Palmer's sweater; hitchhiking; white kids at the lake; the underwear; bedtime nightgowns
The old gas station pumps, Alice's hair and Betsy Palmer's sweater are offered, but the winner is two characters doing a Bogart impersonation and a Katherine Hepburn impersonation (as transcribed), references the newcomer did not catch.
The modern equivalent would be imitating Jules from Pulp Fiction or Forrest Gump; it was a little late for Bogart, but by the theory of cultural expiration it had not expired yet, since Eddie Murphy still did it in movies.
Another participant says 1980 still feels like the 70s, then lists hitchhiking and white kids going to the lake, with a riff on 45 tons of raw sewage making lakes less appealing.
The last picks are the underwear in the movie, with the claim that Victoria's Secret totally changed panty technology, and the bedtime ritual of putting on a bathrobe or nightgown even at summer camp.
One pick is camp counselors in trouble, enough without even needing Jason, which is basically Meatballs.
Another is bad weather as the harbinger of many deaths: Jason's mom is also an amateur meteorologist who strikes on a night with a 75% chance of rain, so everybody is barefoot and slipping around.
A third is random diner scenes where everyone knows everyone, which only happens in movies now that everybody in a diner is on their phone; the LA version is the diner Phil Rosenthal opened, with influencers and a $28 pancake.
The setup for the sequels; Kevin Bacon; Crazy Ralph as the town crazy; strip Monopoly; Jack's weather knowledge; how horny men are; Harry Manfredini's score
A truly tremendous setup for the sequels, laying the groundwork with the question of where the boy is.
Kevin Bacon is named, then the town crazy, Crazy Ralph: the gimmick has never gone wrong because the town crazy is the only person who gives a real warning, and the hosts doubt Ralph knew it was Pamela.
Asked for the most underrated town crazy, a participant names Sam Jackson in Above the Rim before correcting it to Bernie Mac as Flip.
Strip Monopoly is picked, with jokes that nobody knows its rules, that Monopoly is a three or four hour game, and that the guy had threesome ideas.
Jack announcing that the wind shifted 180 degrees and the storm will tear down the valley shows what dudes were like before ESPN, when they knew about weather and how to fix stuff.
Another pick is how horny men are: Marcy recounts her dream of rain turning into blood, and Jack responds only by asking if she wants to go inside.
Nobody mentions the cemetery or the Camp Blood nickname of Camp Crystal Lake, and the cemetery would be as scary.
The last pick is the score by Harry Manfredini: a participant heard it as choo choo ha ha for 46 years before learning it is Kiki Mama (as transcribed); Halloween's piano theme takes the gold and this the silver.
The mom's beheading, with the slow-mo machete coming down, is the pick, because it became a hallmark and staple of these movies.
A participant is asked whether you could cut somebody's head off with a dull old knife of that size; the velocity makes it doubtful, and in two Ginny's attempt only damages Jason's shoulder.
You would need a samurai-level katana as in Black Rain (transcribed 'black brain') and technique, since even House of the Dragon shows a miss; the hosts do not think she is strong enough, but the shot is iconic.
The answer is no, with the fuller case saved for a flex later on.
The flex is a top five list of movies that did not need black people, and this movie has zero black people; the hosts imagine a site called Black Stat Muse to count them.
Number five is Friday the 13th, everybody in the woods with white people getting killed; number four is The Big Chill, where a black friend would have been a token teaching the group the Motown songs.
Number three is Grease, called a movie about gang violence that would hit Fox News with black people in it; number two is Good Will Hunting, a Boston movie, with The Departed raised and Anthony Anderson remembered.
Number one is Jackass: none of the stunts are needed, and representation matters, but not in Jackass.
Anthony Anderson is credited with saving The Departed from a whiteout, which leads to its ending, rewatched a month earlier, and Jack Nicholson's accent.
The flex is the Clarence Worley should have died at the end award for Alice: the sickest ending ever would have Big J come out of the lake, hold her under, and leave nobody. — Chris Ryan
The problem is that the cops are there and would see it, when the whole point is that Jason is a myth nobody believes.
The hosts debate whether the ending happens or is in her imagination, since he should be dead; the second one comes out in 81 but is set in 84, and in later movies Jason becomes a supernatural specter killed multiple times.
Dressed to Kill has the same double ending, with Michael Caine's character coming back before Nancy Allen's character realizes it was a dream in the hospital.
The screenplay was originally called A Long Night at Camp Blood, which is not bad, and Camp Blood is called great.
Saved from a hottest take, the idea is to call this Camp Blood and keep Friday the 13th as a different gimmick for a different franchise, giving a Camp Blood series and a Jason series, though Camp Blood Takes Manhattan is not as good.
Ned is the first pick, and another participant agrees that Ned gets on their nerves and is a tough hang.
Steve Christie (as transcribed), who runs the camp, is called a piece of shit: he puts the kids to work on a tree stump, hits on Alice shirtless, leaves, and sobers up at the diner, maybe taking a run at the waitress.
Ned is the one in the Native American headdress who keeps culturally appropriating, the planned subject of an award for the guy you can't wait to die, and they only find him on the bed above, which is not enough.
The cop telling him to settle down, Tonto, is in a completely different movie, cops in the first three movies always get called away to a car accident, and Ned acts like he is Chevy Chase.
Across the franchise, the worst hang is the guy from Last American Virgin in part four who watches old movies on the projector.
Another weak link pick is Alice: Annie should have been the hero and Alice killed off first, since Alice is a rough hang with bad hair.
Adrian King (as transcribed), who plays Alice, got a stalker afterward and wanted to be killed in two as fast as possible; she could have been the Laurie Strode of the series, while Annie, Karen Allen 2.0, is gone in the first 10 minutes.
Knowing the reveal; Steve hitting on the staff; faking a drowning for mouth-to-mouth; 'Settle down, Tonto'; the dark low-budget lighting; the off-screen Brenda kill; Ned; killing a live snake; the Bogart impression; no intimacy coordinator
Knowing the reveal makes it a tough watch, along with Steve hitting on the staff, faking a drowning so a cute co-worker gives you mouth-to-mouth, and Settle Down Tonto.
They had so little money that there was not enough light, which is why the movie is so dark, and with more money the kills would have popped more, joked as Michael Mann redoing it.
The Brenda kill is not shown: she wanders out to the archery range and then she is dead, maybe for lack of money, as the production seemed able to show a kill or its aftermath but not both.
Asked for what's aged the worst, the next participant opens with obviously Ned.
The snake scene, about six minutes long, has also aged badly, and they actually killed the live snake; according to Adrian King in the book Crystal Lake Memories, the owner stood off to the side with tears running down his cheeks.
The Bogart impression aged badly, and the hosts call this a nipple movie, still basically the 70s, before later 80s horror leaned on gratuitous nudity.
Kevin Bacon's hands are all over the place in a very long shot, with no intimacy coordinator on the movie.
Given the choice of overacting or the John Rambo Underacting Award, the pick is Adrienne King for underacting: she is not freaked out enough after finding everyone dead and keeps problem solving with the obvious killer.
Marcy, Brenda and Annie are called more interesting final girls, and it would be tough to name three things about Alice.
Her calm with Jason's mom after discovering the bodies is mocked, and she should have pushed the dead body out of the car and driven away.
One take is that society was in a much better state when weed was called grass: cheaper, less potent, mostly oregano, smoked by cool groups in The Big Chill and Days Confused (as transcribed).
Another is that the leap from Friday 1 to Friday 2 makes Friday 2 the greatest sequel of all time as an improvement over the original, ahead of Aliens, Godfather 2 and Empire Strikes Back, with more charming kids, an awesome final girl and incredible kills.
Called the hottest take, the last is that this movie needed a dad: Jason's dad probably took off, and a dad would have moved the family to Arizona and stopped it.
The counterpoint is a version where the dad is the first victim, and Betsy Palmer reportedly built a backstory in her head in which Jason Sr. wanted them to move away and she had to change his mind.
