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Sleeping with the Enemy The Rewatchables
Sleeping with the Enemy

What’s Aged the Best?

The house; the title; Julia Roberts' look; the VersaClimber; the 'reminding' line as a litmus test; the mullet-beard combo; the husband's death scene; the villain-isn't-dead moment

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  • The house is amazing and would be put against any movie house; nobody is wrong for staring at it. — Bill Simmons
  • The house was a fake exterior built in an environmentally sensitive beach-grass zone on condition it be torn down and the land restored; materials were donated to Anderson County, South Carolina, and removal cost another $25,000. — Bill Simmons
  • It seems to pop straight out of the beach because it did, and would never exist in real life; shooting in South Carolina was probably cheaper than Massachusetts. — Bill Simmons
  • The title is way up there with Fatal Attraction as a quality title. — Bill Simmons
  • Julia Roberts has never looked better in a film, called Apex Julia from a look standpoint; the college-age speaker jokes about committing murder to date her. — Bill Simmons
  • The VersaClimber the husband uses early on, later associated with LeBron James and Evander Holyfield's cardio, had a 30-year run. — Bill Simmons
  • 'We all forget things. That's what reminding is for' works as a litmus test: if someone you are dating says it, break up with them. — Bill Simmons
  • The new boyfriend's Jagr (ASR 'Yarmiery Jagger') mullet plus beard only worked in a six-month window around 1991; the mullet is compared to Nickelback, mocked now but hot then, and being saved by a mullet made him an early-90s hero. — Van Lathan
  • Kid Rock is offered as another example of someone insisting how hot he once was. — Van Lathan
  • The husband's death scene is funny if you watch how he reacts to the shot. — Van Lathan
  • The 'is he dead?' horror moment where the villain jerks back up, as in Fatal Attraction, has aged best because movies still do it. — Van Lathan
Con Air The Rewatchables
Con Air

Who Won the Movie?

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  • Asked who won the movie, the answer is that there is only one: it has to be Nick. — Shea Serrano
  • Cage's is a legacy-defining role, the moment he announced himself as the biggest star on planet Earth, with Kid Rock's song the right one about it, Confederate flags and all, awkward twenty years later; it has to be Nicolas Cage, nobody else.
  • A case is made for Buscemi, the guy with four lines: he is so good that they clearly added the end scene of him playing craps, which means he tested through the roof and Bruckheimer wanted him back for one more scene, maybe eyeing a sequel; the answer is still Nick Cage.
  • This is one host's favorite Nick Cage performance, the one time he put all the pieces together: white tank top tucked into dad jeans, the mullet, the amazing letters, 'Dear Casey', the promise to bring a bunny, secretly kind of funny.
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Con Air The Rewatchables
Con Air

The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

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  • The award goes to the actor or actress who makes you say 'oh, that guy' or 'oh, that girl' without remembering the name; Cruzito is out because his name is known, and MC Gaines' (as transcribed) Swamp Thing is nominated, one host not knowing who MC Gaines is, only that it was Swamp Thing.
  • Whether Swamp Thing was in the 'American Badass' video is wondered, since he looks like he would be; a host rewatched the video, having liked Kid Rock at the time, and was dismayed to find Confederate flags shown fast at first and then prominently featured.
  • Rachel Tickatin (as transcribed), whose name the hosts struggle to pronounce, is not a that-girl for one host because Total Recall, Man on Fire and this are enough of a body of work; she is called fantastic and a patron saint of the show for Man on Fire and this, deserving a better career, and her supposed Fisher King credit is corrected to 'Mercedes rule' (as transcribed).
  • The winner for one host is Rinaldi Santiago (as transcribed), texted earlier, who has really only been in two movies: the controversial Sally Can't Dance here and, more importantly, the little guy in Dangerous Minds who wins the class prize, feuds with Emilio, and has a weird one-on-one date with Michelle Pfeiffer, buying a jacket for it when the other two do not show up.
  • Another vote is Monica Potter, over the objection that people know her name from the Prefontaine movie, Parenthood and Patch Adams; the voter did not know her name either, having seen Patch Adams a couple of weeks ago and realized only then that she was the woman from Con Air.
  • Asked what he thinks, this host goes Potter, which is welcomed with a 'boom'. — Chris Ryan
Con Air The Rewatchables
Con Air

Half-Assed Internet Research

Kid Rock based 'American Badass' on Cameron Poe; Cage did most of his own stunts; Wendover Airport in Utah stood in for Lerner Airfield; the crash was originally set at the White House; the TV version adds a prison-riot rescue scene; the Sands Hotel was filmed before its November 1996 demolition; a crew member was crushed by a static C-123 model; Trisha Yearwood's version of the song was chosen over 14-year-old LeAnn Rimes'; Malkovich was unhappy with daily rewrites; Cusack reportedly refuses interviews about it yet told the BBC he would do a sequel; Simon West wanted a sequel in space; Chappelle improvised most of his lines

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  • Kid Rock based 'American Badass' on Cameron Poe, who is the human version of that song; Cage did most of his own stunts and spoke of explosions five feet behind him, flaming helicopters dropping behind him and ball-bearing bullets over his head, 'a level of intensity, fear, you might say', which a host delivers in a voice halfway between Andrew Luck and Nick Cage.
  • Asked how many people died in the movie, answers of 24 and 43 are offered, since all those guys died at the boneyard, plus a case for another 500 in Vegas; fist-bumping on the Vegas Strip over a body shop for Colm Meaney's convertible is absurd after losing some 50 American soldiers in the desert. Wendover Airport in Utah stood in for the fictional Lerner Airfield, a fictional airfield with a lot of propane.
  • The climactic plane crash was originally intended to take place at the White House, which could have gone right into Olympus Has Fallen; Bruckheimer eventually decided Las Vegas was more in keeping with the spirit of the film, which the hosts sarcastically salute as a good call, Jerry.
  • The TV version includes an opening-credits scene in which a prison riot breaks out while Cage writes letters to his daughter and his diabetic friend saves him from the burning cell, which explains his loyalty; the hosts would have included it, trading fewer letters and less insulin for more prison riots, since the two-hour movie is a little fat at the end.
  • The hosts want a Cameron Poe prequel set in his eight years in prison, and before that a prequel to the prequel with Poe in the Army Rangers at war, perhaps narrated by Powers Boothe (transcribed 'Powers Booth'), who they think does the opening voiceover about the Rangers.
  • The crash site was filmed at the Sands Hotel before its demolition in November 1996, the production asking the hotel to wait a couple of weeks for the action scene; somebody was crushed to death at Wendover when a static model of the C-123 fell on him, which is why the credits end 'In Memory of Phil Schwartz'; Trisha Yearwood's version of the song was chosen over 14-year-old Leanne Rimes' original and became a massive hit.
  • True or false: Malkovich was unhappy during production because the script was being rewritten virtually every day and he had no idea how his character would turn out; the hosts believe it and think it shows in a performance that seems disturbed and angry, imagining him being handed the 'Cy... anara' exchange on set.
  • Two contradictory internet tidbits: Cusack allegedly dislikes the film so much he refuses to be interviewed about it, which would be odd given his many bad movies, versus Cusack telling the BBC News website in 2012 that a second Con Air 'would be fun' and he would do it if offered. Simon West thought another Con Air should be set in space, which the hosts greenlight as Con Shuttle with prisoners on Mars; on the DVD commentary of Chappelle's Show, Chappelle revealed that he improvised most of his lines on Con Air.
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