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Parenthood

1989 film

Bill Simmons · Chris Ryan · Van Lathan

Aired February 15, 2022

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What’s Aged the Best?

Joaquin Phoenix; Kanye West lyric; Keanu Reeves; overlapping young cast; thumb trick; helium grandmother; Phoenix and DiCaprio rivalry; Garry’s room; the boyfriend’s arc; Grazer nude-photo backstory; Cure poster; Kevin’s tense face; Harley Jane Kozak; money realism

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  • Joaquin Phoenix, then credited as Leaf, gives a performance that forecasts an Oscar winner, especially when his face breaks while asking his father if he can live with him.
  • One participant did not realize the actor was the boy from Parenthood until after Gladiator, when a sister pointed it out.
  • A Kanye West lyric from Gone about a new wife and “now you’re Jennifer Aniston” is said to borrow from the film’s line about a new wife and family.
  • Keanu Reeves in his pre-Speed, Bill and Ted phase is fun and owns the boyfriend role, compared with David Arquette taking it in the TV series.
  • The cast captures an era of overlapping young actors, with Reeves and River Phoenix making a Gus Van Sant film and Martha Plimpton dating River Phoenix; Plimpton is also praised.
  • Gil’s thumb trick still delights small children.
  • The grandmother inhaling helium is favored, as any helium scene is funny.
  • Per the research, there was a rivalry in which DiCaprio sought the Garry role, Phoenix got it, and the two competed for parts, with Phoenix measuring himself against DiCaprio.
  • Garry’s chaotic room is praised as a horror show compared with a real teenager’s room.
  • The boyfriend character as every parent’s nightmare who turns out decent is a favored concept.
  • The nude-photo discovery reportedly happened to producer Brian Grazer; developing such photos in the 1980s is joked about.
  • The Cure's Boys Don't Cry poster in Julie's room is appreciated.
  • Kevin’s tense face became a recurring reference in an early sports column, seen in a head coach during the Super Bowl and in LeBron James.
  • Harley Jane Kozak, also Helen in When Harry Met Sally, is appreciated as an actor who never quite broke through.
  • The film’s candid treatment of money, including Larry’s debts, Gil’s worries about private school, and summer-school pay funding a vacation, is more relatable than shows where money is no object.
  • The car sex-act gag is raised but deferred to Apex Mountain.
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Half-Assed Internet Research

Failed 1990 NBC series; Blonde Goddess tape; Wiest and Steenburgen friendship; Florida location; Plimpton wig and mohawk; Helen Shaw’s final film; cast murder game; Martin’s late fatherhood

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  • Brought forward from internet research: NBC ordered a Parenthood series from a rough cut, per Bill Carter in The New York Times, and the 1990 show was canceled after twelve episodes.
  • The 1990 series cast David Arquette and a young DiCaprio in the Garry role, part of a late-1980s wave of failed movie-based shows such as Ferris Bueller, Working Girl, Uncle Buck and Dirty Dancing.
  • The later Parenthood series is considered good by those who watched early seasons; Friday Night Lights is an outlier because it reworked the premise.
  • The Ferris Bueller TV show’s joke about a poster of Matthew Broderick playing him is recalled as hacky.
  • The adult tape Helen finds was reportedly Blonde Goddess, a 1982 film whose opening parodied Indiana Jones.
  • Dianne Wiest and Mary Steenburgen were reportedly best friends who worked as waitresses together at the Magic Pan before being cast as sisters-in-law; both won Oscars.
  • The film is set in St. Louis but was shot in Florida, with palm trees and a Publix visible.
  • Martha Plimpton dated River Phoenix for nearly five years and began the shoot bald from a prior role, wearing a wig until Ron Howard had her shave her head into a mohawk.
  • Helen Shaw, who played the grandmother, made her final film here and died in 1997 at age 100.
  • During filming the cast became obsessed with a Mafia-like murder game played through eye contact, including during the dinner scene.
  • Steve Martin did not become a parent until age 67 in 2012 despite starring in two iconic parent movies of his generation.
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