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Lecter is a superb therapist

Lecter is called an incredible therapist for rapidly identifying and resolving Clarice’s childhood trauma.

Catherine is said to deserve death because she endangered Precious; the take is tied to the participant’s animal-first stance.

The film

The Silence of the Lambs (1991)

Directed by Jonathan Demme · Horror

118 minutes

Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

Jodie Foster Clarice Starling
Anthony Hopkins Dr. Hannibal Lecter
Scott Glenn Jack Crawford
Ted Levine Jame "Buffalo Bill" Gumb
Anthony Heald Dr. Frederick Chilton
Brooke Smith Catherine Martin
Diane Baker U.S. Senator Ruth Martin
Kasi Lemmons Ardelia Mapp
Charles Napier Lt. Bill Boyle

Everything from the episode

In the order the hosts got to it. Open a row for the discussion.

38:05

Most Rewatchable Scene

Split: Lecter killing the guards (two choices); Clarice recounting the lambs; the first Clarice–Lecter meeting

Split: Lecter killing the guards (two choices); Clarice recounting the lambs; the first Clarice–Lecter meeting

In the discussion (9)
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  • Clarice’s first descent to Lecter, his instant psychological reading, the fava-beans line, and Miggs’s assault are nominated; one participant selects it.
  • Catherine Martin singing “American Girl,” helping Gumb with the sofa, and being abducted are nominated.
  • Gumb ordering Catherine to use the lotion, combined with the revelation of the bloody fingernail, is nominated for its simultaneous terror and dark comedy. — Mallory Rubin
  • Lecter meeting Senator Martin while restrained and masked is nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • Clarice’s final quid-pro-quo meeting with Lecter, including her lamb story and his lesson about coveting, is nominated; one participant selects the lamb confession.
  • Lecter’s attack on the guards, staging of the bodies, face disguise, and ambulance escape are nominated; two participants select the sequence. — Bill Simmons
  • Gumb’s dance intercut with Catherine capturing Precious is nominated. — Mallory Rubin
  • The cross-cut raid and Clarice’s realization that she is inside Gumb’s actual house are nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • Clarice’s night-vision basement pursuit and killing of Gumb are nominated for suspense, foreshadowing, and payoff.
1:04:28

The most 1991 thing

Chris Isaak’s conspicuous SWAT cameo

Chris Isaak’s conspicuous SWAT cameo

In the discussion (5)
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  • Dr. Chilton immediately hitting on Clarice is presented as conduct that would not survive modern workplace norms. — Bill Simmons
  • Senator Martin’s hairstyle is identified with early-1990s public-figure styling. — Bill Simmons
  • The profiling-led investigation’s minimal reliance on DNA is period-specific. — Bill Simmons
  • A young woman helping a strange man load furniture into a van is judged implausible today. — Bill Simmons
  • Chris Isaak’s close-up cameo immediately after the “Wicked Game” video is selected as the most 1991 element. — Bill Simmons
1:05:50

What’s Aged the Best?

Jonathan Demme’s framing and editing, the poster and score, Easter eggs, antagonist construction, and compact runtime

Jonathan Demme’s framing and editing, the poster and score, Easter eggs, antagonist construction, and compact runtime

In the discussion (8)
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  • Dr. Chilton works as a human institutional antagonist alongside the overt killers, like the obstructive authority figures in Jaws and Poltergeist.
  • Direct-to-camera framing, glass reflections, Howard Shore’s score, needle drops, and the poster remain formally distinctive. — Mallory Rubin
  • Whiteboards, notebooks, microfiche articles, bulletin boards, and dungeon details reward pausing and close viewing. — Mallory Rubin
  • Structural changes, especially removing the disciplinary-hearing sequence and repositioning the training drill, made the movie tighter. — Bill Simmons
  • Cannibal fascination is said to remain culturally potent.
  • The movie’s apparent ending followed by Lecter’s coda is praised. — Bill Simmons
  • The point-of-view close-ups, Lecter’s mask and stretcher, “quid pro quo,” clear-glass cell, and night-vision imagery remain iconic. — Bill Simmons
  • The film’s coveting clue and its disciplined sub-two-hour length are praised. — Bill Simmons
1:13:04

The Great Shot Gordo Award for Most Cinematic Shot

Lecter’s angel-like staging of Lieutenant Boyle’s body

Lecter’s angel-like staging of Lieutenant Boyle’s body

In the discussion (2)
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  • The guard’s body spread like an angel or butterfly above the cell is the selected cinematic image. — Bill Simmons
  • The panel questions how Lecter raised, tied, and arranged the body while also staging the second guard on the elevator. — Chris Ryan
1:16:36

The Butch’s Girlfriend Award for the Weakest Link in the Film

Jack Crawford

Jack Crawford

In the discussion (2)
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  • The anagram puzzle chain is criticized as either too prominent or insufficiently developed, though another participant enjoys the layered clues. — Mallory Rubin
  • Jack Crawford is selected for sending an inexperienced trainee to Lecter, offering a transparent fake deal, missing the first-victim relationship, raiding the wrong house, and leaving Clarice poorly supported. — Bill Simmons
1:21:38

What’s Aged the Worst?

The mishandled sequel/prequel franchise, opening typography, profiling pseudoscience, political appropriation of Lect...

The mishandled sequel/prequel franchise, opening typography, profiling pseudoscience, political appropriation of Lecter, Foster’s accent, and trans implications

In the discussion (7)
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  • The Hannibal novel’s Clarice–Lecter relationship repelled Jodie Foster; the later film rewrite and aging Hopkins prequel are treated as franchise mistakes. — Bill Simmons
  • The large opening-credit typography blocking faces is criticized as an early-1990s aesthetic problem. — Bill Simmons
  • Criminal profiling is described as much less reliable than the film assumes. — Chris Ryan
  • Donald Trump’s 2024 references to Hannibal Lecter are identified as a degrading later association. — Bill Simmons
  • Jodie Foster’s accent remains an explicit weakness. — Chris Ryan
  • Serial killers communicating through neat anagrams is judged dated, though the panel misses the puzzle theatricality.
  • The film’s failure to make Demme’s intended distinction between Gumb and trans identity clear enough is preserved as a serious contemporary criticism. — Bill Simmons
1:26:04

The Ruffalo / Hanna / Rubinek / Partridge Overacting Award

No single winner: Charles Napier, Anthony Heald, and Brooke Smith

No single winner: Charles Napier, Anthony Heald, and Brooke Smith

In the discussion (3)
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1:28:11

Is There a Better Title for This Movie?

No replacement title

No replacement title

In the discussion (1)
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  • A joking Miggs-related title is floated only after the unanimous refusal and is not adopted.
1:28:26

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

Lecter is a superb therapist; Catherine deserved punishment for endangering Precious; Hopkins’s Oscar category was fr...

Lecter is a superb therapist; Catherine deserved punishment for endangering Precious; Hopkins’s Oscar category was fraudulent; The Father is his better performance

In the discussion (4)
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  • Lecter is called an incredible therapist for rapidly identifying and resolving Clarice’s childhood trauma.
  • Catherine is said to deserve death because she endangered Precious; the take is tied to the participant’s animal-first stance.
  • Hopkins’s Best Actor Oscar is called fraudulent because he should have competed in supporting. — Chris Ryan
  • The Father is proposed as Hopkins’s greatest performance, drawing strong disagreement.
1:34:05

The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

Brooke Smith

Brooke Smith

In the discussion (5)
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1:35:37

The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance

Buffalo Bill

Buffalo Bill

In the discussion (1)
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  • The panel lists a deep field of memorable limited appearances but calls Buffalo Bill the obvious winner. — Bill Simmons
1:41:14

Apex Mountain

Jonathan Demme, Anthony Hopkins, Q Lazzarus, face-wearing, and Chris Isaak

Jonathan Demme, Anthony Hopkins, Q Lazzarus, face-wearing, and Chris Isaak

In the discussion (8)
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  • Jonathan Demme is accepted because he won Best Director for a superior film to Philadelphia.
  • Anthony Hopkins is accepted, with jokes about later cat TikToks and The Father.
  • Serial-killer movies are debated against Seven and Zodiac without a final resolution.
  • Q Lazzarus is accepted for “Goodbye Horses.”
  • Wearing another person’s face is accepted, while The Texas Chain Saw Massacre and Face/Off are discussed as rivals. — Chris Ryan
  • Chris Isaak is accepted as plausibly at his commercial/cultural peak around “Wicked Game” and this cameo. — Bill Simmons
  • Francis Bacon homages, ordering lamb chops rare, Ted Levine, night vision, the tuck dance, and the 1979 Dodge Tradesman Maxi Van are all proposed or accepted. — Bill Simmons
  • Poodles are proposed, then rejected in favor of Best in Show. — Chris Ryan
1:45:10

Cruise or Hanks?

Tom Cruise

Tom Cruise

In the discussion (3)
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  • Cruise is argued to have the unsettling intensity for Lecter and the range to play every male role. — Bill Simmons
  • Hanks is proposed as an excellent Crawford who might improve that part.
  • The panel explicitly settles on Cruise.
1:55:27

Sequel, Prequel, Limited Series, or All-Black Remake

The property already has a sequel, prequel, and two television series; the panel notes the absence of a Miggs or Buff...

The property already has a sequel, prequel, and two television series; the panel notes the absence of a Miggs or Buffalo Bill prequel.

This discussion recalls a choice from an earlier episode.

In the discussion (2)
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  • Hannibal, Red Dragon/Hannibal Rising, Hannibal, and Clarice are treated as filling the standard franchise options. — Bill Simmons
  • A Miggs or Buffalo Bill origin story is jokingly identified as the remaining gap. — Bill Simmons
1:55:57

Is This Movie Better With…?

Wayne Jenkins (closing choice); Byron Mayo (another preference)

Wayne Jenkins (closing choice); Byron Mayo (another preference)

In the discussion (2)
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1:56:58

Just One Oscar

Split: Jodie Foster; Anthony Hopkins; Best Picture

Split: Jodie Foster; Anthony Hopkins; Best Picture

In the discussion (3)
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2:03:23

What Piece of Memorabilia Would You Want From This Movie?

The lotion and basket

The lotion and basket

In the discussion (6)
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  • Both Lecter masks, including the less comfortable nose-compressing version, are nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • The night-vision goggles are nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • The lotion bottle and Lecter’s drawing of Clarice holding the lamb are nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • The nightstick used to kill Lieutenant Boyle is nominated.
  • An entire FBI practice town and a moth cocoon are added.
  • The lotion paired with its basket is selected as the final package.
2:05:19

The Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson

Never help a creepy stranger move furniture into a van.

Never help a creepy stranger move furniture into a van.

In the discussion (1)
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  • The panel explicitly frames Catherine’s abduction as a lesson against helping an isolated stranger load furniture. — Bill Simmons
2:05:34

Who Won the Movie?

Anthony Hopkins

Anthony Hopkins

In the discussion (2)
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