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The Doors

141 minutes

Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

Val Kilmer Jim Morrison
Meg Ryan Pamela Courson
Kyle MacLachlan Ray Manzarek
Frank Whaley Robby Krieger
Kevin Dillon John Densmore
Kathleen Quinlan Patricia Kennealy
Michael Madsen Tom Baker
Michael Wincott Paul A. Rothchild
Josh Evans Bill Siddons
Crispin Glover Andy Warhol
Mimi Rogers Gloria Stavers
Titus Welliver Macing Cop
Floyd Red Crow Westerman Native American Spirit
Oliver Stone UCLA film professor

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Casting What-Ifs

Ian Astbury as Jim Morrison; Michael Madsen for Morrison; Billy Idol as Tom Baker; Patricia Arquette as Pam; Kyle MacLachlan in Platoon

In the discussion (6)
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  • Stone offered Jim Morrison to Ian Aspery (as spoken) of the Cult, who turned it down and later toured with the Doors in the early 2000s; his voice, like Eddie Vedder's, was compared to Morrison's.
  • An unverified report that Bono wanted the role; Michael Hutchins (as spoken) could have been good, while Bono doing it seems strange.
  • Michael Madsen auditioned for Morrison and was moved to Tom Baker, initially Billy Idol's role, losing 40 pounds.
  • Billy Idol's motorcycle accident also cost him the T-1000; without it he might be huge, joked into Lincoln or an HBO prestige series.
  • The casting director said Patricia Arquette auditioned well for Pam and should have gotten it; an unknown would have been better.
  • Kyle McLaughlin (as spoken) was Stone's first choice for the Charlie Sheen role in Platoon.

Half-Assed Internet Research

Band and Courson-family opposition; Kilmer eye-contact memo; leather pants; invented scenes; Manzarek's criticism; composite reporter; Mojave fine; Billy Idol's reduced role; Barney's Beanery; Break script rumor

In the discussion (10)
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  • The band opposed the film and wanted to be in it, like Queen with its movie; the Courson family wanted Pam portrayed as an angel.
  • A memo told someone not to make eye contact with Val Kilmer during filming.
  • A participant who profiled Kilmer around 2005-06 interviewed Stone, who said Kilmer's biggest issue was wearing the same black leather pants every day.
  • Stone invented or took liberties with the closet fire, Thanksgiving and Morrison's anger over Light My Fire.
  • A 1991 Manzarek quote says the film was about "Jimbo Morrison, the drunk," not the sensitive poet and funny guy he knew.
  • The reporter was a composite character, not a real person.
  • The desert scenes were shot in the East Mojave Preserve, drawing a fine; Billy Idol's role shrank after his motorcycle accident, so he is seated or framed around it.
  • The bar Morrison frequents is Barney's Beanery in West Hollywood, where he pisses in the film.
  • Did not know which bar it was. — Chris Ryan
  • A single-site claim that an early Stone script, Break, an early Platoon, was in Morrison's apartment in France when he died; flagged as half-assed.

Picking Nits

Reporter girlfriend subplot; invented dinner party; mystical opening; Ray disappearing; no bass-player discussion; unexplained 66 jersey; missing early-band material; long final stretch; bathtub reaction

In the discussion (9)
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  • The reporter girlfriend runs too long, and the invented dinner party is a pivotal scene that should have happened.
  • Asked how much Native American material is needed, a pitch replaces the made-up opening dream sequence with Morrison's real early life; counter: that mystical material is why people wanted the movie, tied to Danny Sugarman's (as spoken) book, so it could not have been made otherwise.
  • Ray disappears in the second half and needs a scene expressing concern.
  • Biggest nitpick: no discussion of the band having no bass player and using an organ, which gives Break On Through a surf-music quality.
  • Morrison wears a number 66 jersey while recording poetry, possibly Browns; nobody knows whose, Marion Motley is guessed.
  • Biggest nitpick: deleted scenes on YouTube show more early performance; more early-band material would beat the last hour, 15 minutes too fat.
  • The 20 minutes after Miami, including the birthday party, could move faster.
  • Pam finding him dead accuses him of joking, a movie cliche.
  • Asked about the skinny, handsome dead Morrison instead of a bloated one, ranks it with the two Morrisons following down the hall to meet Warhol. — Chris Ryan

Probably Unanswerable Questions

USC film school prequel; telling books lying around; best use of an Arthur Rimbaud book; Madsen's character

In the discussion (4)
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  • Would watch a prequel about Jim's entire USC film school stint, every class. — Chris Ryan
  • Did they always have such telling books lying around, like Mailer's Armies of the Night next to the TV, with every title visible; jokes about Bill's own set-dressed books.
  • Eddie and the Cruisers, definitely, is the best use of an Arthur Rimbaud book. — Chris Ryan
  • Was Madsen's character a Roger Corman type? Answer: an actual hanger-on in Warhol and Paul Morrissey art porn.