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St. Elmo's Fire

108 minutes

Cast

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Emilio Estevez Kirby Keager
Rob Lowe William "Billy" Hicks
Andrew McCarthy Kevin Dolenz
Demi Moore Julianna "Jules" Van Patten
Judd Nelson Alec Newberry
Ally Sheedy Leslie Hunter
Mare Winningham Wendy Beamish
Martin Balsam Mr. Beamish
Andie MacDowell Dale Biberman
Joyce Van Patten Mrs. Beamish
Jenny Wright Felicia Hicks
Blake Clark Wally
Matthew Laurance Ron Dellasandro
Anna Maria Horsford Naomi, a prostitute who picks up men near Kevin and Kirby's apartment
James Carrington Guy, Dale's boyfriend
Whip Hubley Felicia's Date

St. Elmo's Fire | The Rewatchables

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Most Rewatchable Scene

Billy's saxophone scene

In the discussion (13)
Approx. transcript time · 00:31:54Read transcript
  • The opening credits are listed first for the theme music.
  • The first St. Elmo's bar scene is listed for its cheesy 80s music and everyone in their habitat, including Judd Nelson dunking Rob Lowe in the water.
  • The short first Jeep scene is listed for the iconic exchange about the three-year Georgetown Young Democrats chief working for a Republican: "Moving up, Kerbo."
  • The scene of Billy on the roof at the Mare Winningham character's house (transcribed 'Mayor Winningham') is listed.
  • Kirby's party at Kim's house and Jules and Billy in the car, ending with "You break my heart. Then again, you break everyone's heart," are listed; the car line is called devastating.
  • Leslie moving out of Alec's apartment and dividing the records ("No Springsteen is leaving this house") is listed, with Nelson described as completely out of control.
  • The vote is Billy's big sax scene, with "no other question".
  • Also liked: the Kevin and Leslie hookup confession ("Am I part of your props?") and Kevin and Kirby's apartment talk when Billy shows up needing a place to crash; but there is really no competition with Billy Hicks and the New Breed on Halloween night.
  • The band's song seems to have only the lyric "One love", leaving the band standing around during Billy's long solo.
  • Whether Billy is a serious musician is unclear; he fronts Billy Hicks and the New Breed but at Georgetown seemed mostly to father children and play rugby.
  • Schumacher's The Lost Boys also has a long sax-solo scene; Clarence Clemons (transcribed 'Clemens') and Eddie and the Cruisers are floated as the influence, and nobody ever picked a bar for its sax player.
  • The "Let's rock" clap-along after the solo brings joy, and Billy's estranged wife arriving with a very 80s date leads to a fight outside the bar, called a great five minutes.
  • Jules's fire-escape rescue and Alec hanging Kevin over the fire escape are added as scenes that probably belonged in this category.
In the discussion (6)
Approx. transcript time · 00:40:39Read transcript
  • Billy's estranged wife's date, 'Hollywood from Top Gun' (transcribed 'Whit Hewley'), is flagged as the Joey Pants pick in his first role.
  • The category is called "a field of one": Hubley (transcribed 'Whit Hubeley').
  • Other nominees: the prostitute character's actress (transcribed 'Maria Westford'), recognized from The Shield and Friday.
  • Matthew Laurance (transcribed 'Matthew Lawrence') as Ron is nominated, with his Eddie and the Cruisers role and his run as Mel Silver on 90210 recalled.
  • Ron is written as a stereotype holding a strawberry daiquiri midday.
  • Confirmed: "So you're going with Hubley. Absolutely, man."

What’s Aged the Best?

Opening credits; theme music; David Foster soundtrack; the Andrew McCarthy impersonation it inspired; the title; Jules; the apartments; the record-splitting breakup; Billy's tie-wearing

In the discussion (12)
Approx. transcript time · 00:41:14Read transcript
  • The opening credits and music are repeated; the hosts say the soundtrack was David Foster's first, and that he later made a fortune and appeared on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
  • The hosts say Foster co-wrote the St. Elmo's Fire song with John Parr, and agree it was the number-one song in America.
  • The movie, the bar and the song are all called St. Elmo's Fire, and nobody in the film acknowledges it.
  • A comic's Andrew McCarthy impersonation (transcribed 'Jay Moore') was lifted from this movie and still gets a laugh.
  • The title is great; the hosts say Columbia hated it and sent a 35-page memo, with Sparks and The Real World as alternatives.
  • Billy's St. Elmo's Fire speech to Jules works the title in and is read aloud, but it is mocked as beyond Billy's seven brain cells and, per the hosts, Rob Lowe has called it embarrassing.
  • Jules is one of the best 80s characters; everybody either was a Jules or knew one, and one host was always all in on Jules in his 20s.
  • Jules's career-plan speech turns out to be a real career plan; in a sequel she might co-host The View or run a family reality empire like Jenner.
  • All the apartments have aged the best, including Alec and Leslie's loft with its marathon image.
  • Dividing records in the breakup was accurate for a time when people owned about 20 records, like a fantasy draft.
  • Billy Hicks's loose tie-wearing is a controversial pick said to be ready for a comeback; the other host agrees.
  • Billy's wet-look hair is called both aged best and aged worst.

What’s Aged the Worst?

Wendy's wardrobe and weight plot; Kirby's stalking of Dale; Dale's understanding boyfriend; the glamorous apartments; time spent on Wendy's family

In the discussion (11)
Approx. transcript time · 00:49:33Read transcript
  • Wendy is dressed like a 1950s librarian, and making her weight a plot point is odd.
  • Billy's attraction to Wendy is inexplicable given his wife and bar habits; she is called miscast.
  • Andrew McCarthy is called miscast, with unintentional comedy through the roof; the other host likes him in the film.
  • The actor's smoking as Kevin looks learned the day before filming, and Kevin is compared to Troy in Reality Bites, though Troy's friendships make more sense.
  • Nobody notices Kevin is in love with Leslie, and Alec's cheating seems constant.
  • The Dale and Kirby plot has aged far worse than anything involving Kevin.
  • Kirby is a stalker: the rain-soaked black-tie arrival likened to Buffalo Bill, sniffing the pillow, and leaving his own party to drive three hours to the ski house.
  • Kirby has no other plot beyond law school, the DUI help, switching jobs and returning to law school; he takes bar orders as if nothing happened.
  • Dale's understanding boyfriend at the ski house, who even starts Kirby's car, is ridiculous.
  • The apartments are too glamorous for 22-year-olds; Schumacher is quoted saying youth movies deserved stars, clothes, sets and cars, and that glamour was very much his concept.
  • Too much time goes to Wendy's family with Martin Balsam instead of Jules; in a 10-episode version viewers would skip the Wendy episode.
In the discussion (4)
Approx. transcript time · 01:02:35Read transcript
  • Felicia's date from Top Gun is mentioned again; Anna Maria Horsford (transcribed 'Horstford') is nominated for her "lots of people come to me for love" line.
  • Other nominees: Wendy's mom, the naked man at the hospital, and Andie MacDowell, who looks great in four or five scenes and launched her career.
  • The other host agrees on the prostitute character: "I'm with you. I think it's the hooker."
  • A 14 or 15 seed is Senator Bancroft's guy (transcribed 'Tommy Hodges') smoking a pipe at the bar.

Apex Mountain

Judd Nelson; Ally Sheedy; John Parr; Jeep CJ7; Georgetown

In the discussion (9)
Approx. transcript time · 01:09:07Read transcript
  • Rob Lowe: his peak is About Last Night the following year.
  • Judd Nelson: yes, coming off Breakfast Club; the peak went down, but yes.
  • Andrew McCarthy: his peak is Weekend at Bernie's or Mannequin.
  • Demi Moore: no way; her own apex was not A Few Good Men, G.I. Jane is floated, and signing the record Striptease contract is probably it.
  • Ally Sheedy: yes.
  • Emilio: no; probably Young Guns or Stakeout.
  • John Parr: yes.
  • The CJ7 the friends drive around Georgetown to pick everybody up: yes, an incredible car.
  • Georgetown is called a big one, citing this movie and, per the hosts, Patrick Ewing winning the title this year.
In the discussion (4)
Approx. transcript time · 01:16:20Read transcript
  • Absolutely, though today's graduates may be less raucous.
  • One host says Topher Grace (transcribed 'Tophore Grace') tried to make it as a TV show around 2009.
  • A Cobra Kai style modernization is pitched, perhaps with Jules's son at Georgetown.
  • A flipped Dale Biberman version is rejected; Dale locked down a great guy.
In the discussion (5)
Approx. transcript time · 01:20:37Read transcript
  • Answers offered as jokes: the backing band the New Breed (ruled ineligible) and New York City getting prime Billy Hicks years.
  • Billy moving to New York in 1985 to clean up is hilarious, and is compared to Beautiful Girls.
  • Two finalists: Judd Nelson is enjoyable in every scene, but it is Rob Lowe or Demi Moore, with Moore's star-making performance feeling like a real person.
  • Asked if a tie is a cop-out, the reply is that they have tied before; Demi Moore and Rob Lowe are named co-winners, with About Last Night as a payoff.
  • Lowe had the best role of his career at 20, the right age for the part.
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