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It Follows

year 2014decade 10sdirector David Robert Mitchellgenre Horror
host Bill Simmonshost Chris Ryanhost Joanna Robinson
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The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award · 59:50

One night with the It Follows girl is worth it

Rolling the dice for a one-nighter with the It Follows girl: at every point from age 18 to 27 the answer would have been fuck it, worth the demon STD.

It goes straight into the doctrine of bet on yourself, counting on scoring again in the next couple of nights; there is no time limit to pass it along.

The Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson · 1:35:56

Don't have sex with a guy named Hugh

Don't have sex with a guy named Hugh, though his name could secretly be Jeff, a stealth Jeff, and you can't take all Jeffs off the table.

The film

It Follows (2014)

Directed by David Robert Mitchell · Horror

100 minutes

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28:18

Most Rewatchable Scene

The lake house; the movie date gone wrong; Annie's death; Jay in the backseat of the car; Jay waking up after being d...

The lake house; the movie date gone wrong; Annie's death; Jay in the backseat of the car; Jay waking up after being drugged; Greg's death

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Approx. transcript time · 00:28:18Read transcript
  • The first pick is the movie date gone wrong with Hugh Jeff (as transcribed), with praise for the great old-school movie theater.
  • Skipping the first scene, Annie's death, draws an objection: she runs out in a nightgown and high heels, changes into more sensible shoes while her dad asks if she is okay, and every parent in this movie is an F minus.
  • One list goes chronologically: the first movie date, then Jay waking up handcuffed to a chair, with the chloroform scene called really creepy; the scares are structured so the first kill leaves you waiting a long time, as in Halloween, before the wheelchair bit jumps it up a level.
  • A favorite is Jay in the backseat of the car talking about her hopes and dreams, shot so dreamily before he tenderly kisses her on the shoulder and the chloroform comes out.
  • Annie's leg facing completely backwards prompts a question for Craig about an NFL injury like it, with Tyquan Thornton named.
  • In the handcuffed-to-a-chair scene all the rules are laid out at the start in a remedial way, like an urban legend or a creepypasta, and it is shot from Jay's perspective as an ingenious bit of POV filmmaking.
  • The naked lady on the railroad tracks slowly walking over to Jay turns out, per the research, to be Jeff's mom, who shows up again later; the demon is said to get a little lazy later, going from Greg to Greg's mom to grandpa and dad.
  • The list continues with the classroom scene where Barbara Bush comes after her, the topless no-teeth peeing lady at the sleepover, and the giant black-eyed tall guy, called a favorite character in the movie.
  • The crunchy glasses white t-shirt lady who gets shot in the neck and just gets up, the tall guy coming back and creepy Michael Cera guy, the neighbor, are listed, and the lake house is called one participant's most rewatchable scene.
  • Greg dying while his half-naked mom grinds on him is called the worst way to go, followed by the naked guy in the house and the pool trap, a 10 out of 10 idea for a movie set piece though a terrible idea for killing the entity.
  • The kids should have a dumb idea, throwing electronics into the pool; Jay's dad as bearded t-shirt guy, the headshot, bullets going through water and missing, and Jay protecting her sister, who can't see it, are enjoyed.
  • Another pick is Jay waking up after Jeff has drugged her; the lake is liked and called the Dan Campbell moment, and Greg getting fuck-killed by his mom is also offered.
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40:30

The most 2014 thing

The post-2008 housing crisis; post-Occupy; disappointed millennials; the Funny or Die spoof; side bangs

The post-2008 housing crisis; post-Occupy; disappointed millennials; the Funny or Die spoof; side bangs

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  • The answer is being post 2008 housing crisis. — Chris Ryan
  • Post-occupy, abandoned houses and economically disappointed millennials still living at home are added.
  • A 2015 Funny or Die spoof, What Follows After Watching It Follows, came at the tail end of Funny or Die; nobody thinks or remembers that the spoof was funny.
  • Her side bangs, with a lot of flat ironing involved, are very 2014.
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43:10

What’s Aged the Best?

The It Follows sports-trade jokes; the Disasterpeace score; the pick-someone game; Paul as the supportive friend; the...

The It Follows sports-trade jokes; the Disasterpeace score; the pick-someone game; Paul as the supportive friend; the simple premise; the unobserved followers; the supportive group of kids; the repeated water imagery

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Approx. transcript time · 00:43:10Read transcript
  • Early, one participant had it for this category (transcribed 'one stage the best'): a legacy of the movie coming out in 2014 is that it became a joke, for a player traded to a team that goes downhill and then traded again, so it follows sports trades, with Corey Brewer and Jeff Green offered as the 2014 hoops examples; in the category itself the nomination returns, with the jokes about It Follows named again as that participant's pick.
  • The phenomenal score was done by Disaster Peace, picked because the director was a huge fan of the video game Fez, and it pounds in a loud theater; a track maybe called Detroit has about 8 million streams, and it and Drive are the synth-y soundtracks that went.
  • Detroit again, and the pick-someone-in-the-room-you'd-want-to-be game, which adds to not knowing when the movie takes place, since people now would be on their phones on the date.
  • A tangent recalls a name game played to pass the time, and an actor, movie, actor version.
  • Paul, the supportive friend of the final girl who is secretly in love with her, is a favorite horror trope, a real Justin Long type played by Keir Gilchrist, angling for sex early.
  • The simplicity of premise: the director never said it out loud when pitching because it was too embarrassing, yet it is a perfect elevator pitch, three words, sexually transmitted demon, unlike Barbarian.
  • The unobserved followers: the guy outside the restaurant on the date, the lady in white at Jeff's high school and the guy following Jay and Paul in the last shot leave it ambiguous whether they are free; the soccer girl coming home flips it, recalling the background ghosts of Haunting of Hill House.
  • The group of kids gets along and everyone believes her, a nice hangout vibe set up when the girl farts in the first 40 seconds; she graduated and stayed at the JC, hanging out with her younger sister's friends while everyone else left.
  • The consistency and repetitive imagery: all the water, the pool, the woman peeing, the lake, the swimming pool at the end.
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48:24

The Great Shot Gordo Award for Most Cinematic Shot

Jay fondling the flower in the concrete; Jay in the car talking about her dreams; the backseat of the car; the POV 36...

Jay fondling the flower in the concrete; Jay in the car talking about her dreams; the backseat of the car; the POV 360s; the pool filling with blood

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  • The backseat of the car shot is named, and the pick always gone back to is Jay fondling the flower coming out of the concrete before she gets drugged, her last moment of innocence, along with Jay in the car talking about her dreams.
  • The handcuffed-to-the-chair 360s are earned because they are always from a POV, though drone shots are out.
  • Shots in the pool and the pool filling with blood look cool for a movie that was not expensive.
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51:13

Is There a Better Title for This Movie?

STD: It Follows

STD: It Follows

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  • No way at first, since the director mentioned sexually transmitted demon; the earlier pitches are ST demon, STD and Itch Follows, with STD colon Itch Follows also offered.
  • Later the winner title the hosts came up with is called STD colon It Follows, distinct from the earlier STD colon Itch Follows proposal.
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52:08

The Butch’s Girlfriend Award for the Weakest Link in the Film

The swimming pool plan; Greg; Paul

The swimming pool plan; Greg; Paul

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  • If Paul were a little older, would his rivalry with Greg feel more tense; Daniel Zavato (as transcribed) is called Riggins-lite when full Riggins was wanted, and Paul is a number two choice.
  • The number one choice is the swimming pool plan, loved as a scene but so stupid; Mitchell has said it's a kid movie plan Scooby-Doo might think of, and they bring one TV and hairdryer at a time, giving it rockets to throw.
  • Greg needed something more, Tim Riggins in 2008, since he treated her badly in high school and worms his way back into the inner circle; Craig Grobeck should have played him.
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54:50

What’s Aged the Worst?

The peeping Tom kids; bad reads as an STD allegory; audiences judging the characters' intelligence

The peeping Tom kids; bad reads as an STD allegory; audiences judging the characters' intelligence

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  • The peeping Tom kids are never understood: she is the leftover prom queen the neighborhood boys still stare at, and in 2014 climbing up to look through her window is criminal activity, though that's how George McFly met his wife.
  • Bad reads of the movie: the number of people who think this is just an allegory for STDs or the perils of AIDS, which it's not.
  • Contemporary audiences focus way too much on the intelligence of the characters and whether they make the right call; if it came out today people would call these kids idiots over the hair dryer plan.
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59:50

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

One night with the It Follows girl is worth it; better than Obsession, Hereditary and Weapons; it would make $180 mil...

One night with the It Follows girl is worth it; better than Obsession, Hereditary and Weapons; it would make $180 million today; Maika Monroe holds the Scream Queen belt; the sequel should be a comedy

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Approx. transcript time · 00:59:50Read transcript
  • Rolling the dice for a one-nighter with the It Follows girl: at every point from age 18 to 27 the answer would have been fuck it, worth the demon STD.
  • It goes straight into the doctrine of bet on yourself, counting on scoring again in the next couple of nights; there is no time limit to pass it along.
  • Changing the Catherine Trammell would you throw your life away award to the would you have sex with the It Follows girl award, or the Bill Simmons I would award, is floated.
  • Another take: this movie is better than Obsession, Hereditary and Weapons, the elevated horror of the last 15 years, because it has a lot on its mind and peels back more every time, down to her broken hand holding Paul's at the end.
  • Piggybacking, if it came out right now with a big studio it would make $180 million, at least 100, and it is very similar to Obsession.
  • Part of what people respond to with horror is newness and surprise, so for the sequel no trailer is wanted, just the title and one second.
  • The sequel's title is argued as They Follow or They Follows, and Paul is not in it.
  • Micah Monroe (as transcribed) still has the Scream Queen belt, with competition from Jessica Roth (as transcribed) and Samara Weaving, after Jamie Lee in the 80s, Neve Campbell in the 90s and Naomi Watts in the aughts for Ring, Ring 2, the Funny Games remake and Mulholland Drive.
  • Funny Games is not a rewatchable because it's not a fun hang, and the dad, Tim Roth, is a zero out of ten on the protect my family scale.
  • The last take is that the sequel should change genres into a straight comedy, just Paul trying to get laid as people come towards him, made by the This Is the End crew.
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1:10:49

The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

Jake Weary

Jake Weary

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  • The pick is the guy who plays Hugh, Jake Weary, one of those guys seen in other stuff, a bad guy in something; Keir Gilchrist (transcribed Gilchriston) is placed in Task.
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1:11:03

The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance

The tall It guy; Daniel Zovatto

The tall It guy; Daniel Zovatto

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  • Greg's mom or the tall It guy are offered, and it goes to the tall It guy (transcribed 'all it guy'), with a shout-out to Naked Grandpa.
  • Naming Daniel Zavato (as transcribed) pushes the limits of the award, but he is really liked in this and great in Station Eleven.
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1:15:24

Apex Mountain

Everyone in the cast except Michael Monroe (as transcribed); David Robert Mitchell; backward leg murders; the Playpen...

Everyone in the cast except Michael Monroe (as transcribed); David Robert Mitchell; backward leg murders; the Playpen magazine

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  • Everyone in this cast is first called a no, then immediately corrected to a yes, except for Michael Monroe (as transcribed).
  • Monroe hasn't hit her apex yet; probably Long Legs, which vaulted her to another level, and she stars in these movies, like Watcher.
  • No above-ground pool scenes come to mind, though the pool becomes a symbol in the movie.
  • David Robert Mitchell is a yes for sure, with a lot of stock bought after this movie, after a joke about David Robert Marshall pitching for the Brewers.
  • High school horror movies are a no, that's Scream and Halloween; backward leg murders get a yeah, though this one is not as good as the first death in the Ring.
  • Charade with Cary Grant and Audrey Hepburn is a no; the Playpen magazine gets a yeah for the tissues on top and the photo of his high school girlfriend.
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1:17:21

Cruise or Hanks?

Cruise as Hugh or as the naked guy on the roof

Cruise as Hugh or as the naked guy on the roof

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  • It's obviously Cruz (as transcribed): Risky Business Cruz of 1983 as Hugh, or Cruz right now as the scary naked guy on the roof, Digger Cruz.
  • A Digger tangent: it wasn't hated as much as people did and was liked, and the official zag on Digger is expected when it hits streaming.
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1:22:30

Sequel, Prequel, Limited Series, or All-Black Remake

They Follow; no prestige TV version; a prequel with the tall guy as the original It

They Follow; no prestige TV version; a prequel with the tall guy as the original It

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  • They Follow, or They Follows, is coming, but this conversation shows why there should not be a prestige TV version: they'd have to answer too many questions.
  • A Carrie tangent: all eight episodes watched over a weekend in Boston, called really good though the framing lore and coven aspect weren't needed, with a lot of Lillard as the principal.
  • They Follow has Justine Lupe from Succession, Jackie Earl Haley (as transcribed), Melora Walters and Michael Gandolfini.
  • An It prequel would reveal Tall Guy as the original It, who played basketball in Romania and pissed off a witch on an away game in Transylvania.
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1:24:25

Is This Movie Better With…?

Longlegs; Stephen A. Smith apologizing as Hugh

Longlegs; Stephen A. Smith apologizing as Hugh

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  • The answer is Long Legs, who invented this.
  • Stephen A. apologizes as Hugh for the movie theater date, having a sexual entity demon following him and still taking her out, correcting himself midway like the Lane Johnson apology: he took Jade (as transcribed) to see Charade and it was a ruse, then it wasn't a ruse.
  • Jeff Hugh lives and doesn't really apologize: he gave her the wrong name, Kevin, faked a house he was renting with prescription pills, and when they find him through yearbooks he sits on the lawn and leaves, with nobody calling the cops.
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1:26:15

Just One Oscar

Disasterpeace for score

Disasterpeace for score

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  • Cinematography and Mitchell for direction come up, and Disaster Piece (as transcribed) for score is a good call and the answer.
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1:33:56

What Piece of Memorabilia Would You Want From This Movie?

The shell phone

The shell phone

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  • Nothing was written down, then the shell phone; another wouldn't want anything because the demon might get mad, and the shell phone not existing is a letdown since it would be bought right now.
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1:35:56

The Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson

Don't have sex with a guy named Hugh

Don't have sex with a guy named Hugh

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  • Don't have sex with a guy named Hugh, though his name could secretly be Jeff, a stealth Jeff, and you can't take all Jeffs off the table.
  • Should she have known, having never gone inside his house out in the city, where he ran in, popped a pill and read a porno mag?
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1:36:25

Who Won the Movie?

Maika Monroe

Maika Monroe

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  • Micah Monroe (as transcribed) is named three times in a row with no other candidate.
Podcast choices
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