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Crimson Tide

116 minutes

Cast

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Denzel Washington Lt. Cmdr. Ron Hunter
Gene Hackman Capt. Frank Ramsey
Matt Craven Lt. Roy Zimmer
George Dzundza Chief of the Boat Walters
Viggo Mortensen Lt. Peter Ince
James Gandolfini Lt. Robert Dougherty
Rocky Carroll Lt. Darik Westergard
Danny Nucci Petty Officer Danny Rivetti
Lillo Brancato Jr. Petty Officer Russell Vossler
Rick Schroder Lt. Paul Hellerman
Steve Zahn Seaman William Barnes
Ryan Phillippe Seaman Grattam
Daniel von Bargen Vladimir Radchenko
Jason Robards Rear Admiral Anderson (uncredited)

Crimson Tide | The Rewatchables

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Most Rewatchable Scene

Final confrontation; first mutiny

In the discussion (22)
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  • Choosing is hard because the whole movie is rewatchable.
  • The first Hackman-Denzel meeting, where Hackman compares horses to high school girls, has the two feeling each other out; Denzel realizes he needs to keep his guard up with this guy.
  • The semi-confrontation after the kitchen fire and the missile drill is where the sparring really begins, with Ramsey's speech about the unified chain of command and not questioning each other in front of the crew.
  • Calling a missile drill during a fire is joked to be a Bill Simmons move, like a 7 a.m. text or an emergency pod after an earthquake; the reply is that sometimes you have to run the missile drill.
  • The Silver Surfer argument with Danny Nucci's sailor is called clearly a Tarantino pop-culture scene; a little dated and not fully understood, but enjoyable.
  • The blow-up where Denzel relieves Hackman is praised for its overlapping speeches; the hosts say Lieutenant Zimmer was named as an homage to Hans Zimmer.
  • Hackman is guessed at 5-11; camera tricks sometimes make him look taller than Denzel, which is joked to be a Top Gun habit of Tony Scott's.
  • Quick cuts show the crew paralyzed watching; on rewatch, Hunter starts questioning the captain in public as soon as the fire happens.
  • A 'coming up next' take argues Hunter was in the wrong: in the military chain of command you never question the lead dog with other people around, so he loses Hackman from that point.
  • A counter-question asks whether Ramsey deliberately draws out Hunter's defiance; Hunter keeps asking why, echoing the Clausewitz exchange.
  • Because Ramsey hired Hunter, an early scene showing Hunter was not his choice would explain the testing; the counterpoint is that time was short while Radchenko fueled his missiles.
  • The torpedo attack, with the sub hit, water coming in and depths called out, is a hacky but necessary submarine-movie beat; from around there the last hour plays nearly in real time.
  • The bilge-bay 'Seal the bay' scene has Rick Schroder really going for it, joked to be how he got NYPD Blue.
  • Viggo, very young and baby-faced, is great and pivotal, though his accent pops with little Dutch-like flourishes.
  • 'You don't put on a condom unless you want to fuck' is called Chris's favorite line, prompting HR and WordPress jokes.
  • Other lines include the one about only two sides to a mutiny, and Denzel gets several yearbook-ready lines.
  • Matt Craven and Rocky Carroll are perfect as the officers running envelopes down hallways; Carroll was known as Joey from Rock on Fox, and both later spent years on NCIS.
  • Hackman taking the boat back includes Denzel's extra second-and-a-half stare at Viggo.
  • One pick is the final confrontation: Hackman hitting him, the 'God help you if you're wrong' exchange, the three-minute wait for the radio, and the final message reveal, called seven unassailable minutes.
  • Another pick is the first mutiny, for the overlapping dialogue while the missiles are fueled; the stallions scene is acknowledged as the famous one.
  • A further voice agrees the first mutiny is the favorite part and the turning point, starting when Ramsey yells 'Mr. Hunter, I've made a decision... shut the fuck up!'
  • The line is joked about for Zoom meetings; NBA owners most likely to yell it include Tillman Fertitta and Mickey Arison.

What’s Aged the Best?

Sub-descent montage; Denzel's lines; real-time final hour; Jason Robards cameo; EAMs; opening and closing title cards

In the discussion (10)
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  • Tony Scott makes a two-minute montage of the sub slowly descending riveting with Hans Zimmer's score; only Spielberg or McTiernan, who made Hunt for Red October, might have pulled it off.
  • Denzel's line 'in the nuclear world, the true enemy is war itself' is one of about seven such Denzel lines.
  • Viggo lights a cigarette when he decides to refuse the launch, and many sailors smoke Marlboro Reds underwater with no smoking section.
  • George Dzundza's IMDb highlights include The Deer Hunter, No Way Out, Basic Instinct and Law & Order; a lowlight is co-leading the 1985 TV movie The Rape of Richard Beck with Richard Crenna.
  • The Richard Beck plot summary is read, a 35th-anniversary episode is joked about, and early-80s cocaine is blamed for bad decisions.
  • The last 60 minutes play basically in real time, with Weps doing the clock; it may have inspired Snake Eyes.
  • Jason Robards, uncredited, comes flying in off the top rope for about 90 seconds.
  • The EAMs are cinematically great, with messages three people must read aloud and confirm and run down the hallway; it is also disturbing that nuclear war hinged on them.
  • The opening title card names the three most powerful people in the world, including a nuclear submarine captain, and the closing card says captains lost launch authority on January 1, 1996; Bruckheimer pitches the card almost word for word in a featurette.
  • Don Simpson is joked to be number four; David Stern would belong in the top three.

What’s Aged the Worst?

Small-screen viewing; Lillo Brancato as the radio fixer; Ramsey's gun threats; Ramsey's late overt racism

In the discussion (6)
Approx. transcript time · 00:53:23Read transcript
  • It was an awesome big-screen movie that is not the same on any TV; a planned anniversary theater re-release was lost when the pandemic hit, and Jurassic Park is similar.
  • A Tarantino-hosted Tony Scott marathon at the New Beverly is proposed for when theaters reopen.
  • The man fixing the radio to save the world is the Bronx Tale actor Lillo Brancato, whose real life did not work out as well.
  • Hackman pulling a gun on Viggo, then switching targets once he remembers only Viggo knows the code, never sat right and should have come up in the report with Robards; the others seem fine with it.
  • Hackman going overtly racist at the tail end is questioned as a choice, especially with Black sailors aboard.
  • Gandolfini's Dougherty is probably egging him on; Gandolfini plays a greased-up scumbag in every Tony Scott movie, like a wrestling character.
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  • Renaming the award after Stephen Tobolowski's Ned Ryerson, raised on the Groundhog Day pod, gets support; a George Dzundza Award is also floated, with a pronunciation debate.
  • Matt Craven as Zimmer is offered, though NCIS may have lifted him past that-guy status.
  • Danny Nucci, the Silver Surfer guy, is called a better pick: he has been in a lot but is known only as Danny.
  • Ryan Phillippe's first role flashes by, but the pick here is Nucci. — Chris Ryan
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  • The award name now sounds like it is about the best ass in the cast, so a new name tied to 'coffee with McCauley a half hour ago' is floated for future use.
  • Gandolfini dialed it up the most, including his 'Fuck the XO' line.
  • Rick Schroder, doused with water, clearly makes the most of closing the hatch.
  • Gandolfini is 'a gorgeous porchetta' hamming it up; his pre-Sopranos parts are fun, and it was clear from True Romance that something would happen for him.
  • Schroder is joked to be about to yell 'Wake up, Chip!'

Apex Mountain

Jack Russell terriers

In the discussion (9)
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  • The case for this as Tony Scott's Apex: a career crossroads, a hit, and the start of the Denzel relationship; but it is not called his best film.
  • Favorite Tony Scott films are Last Boy Scout, True Romance and Crimson Tide in a row, with True Romance as the Apex.
  • A counterargument says this is the Apex because The Fan, his next film, only got greenlit because he was Tony Scott.
  • With Frasier's Jack Russell also around in 1995, the preference is this Jack Russell, in a more consequential situation. — Chris Ryan
  • It could be the Apex for mutinies on subs.
  • For best submarine movie it is this or Hunt for Red October; Das Boot, older submarine films and K-19 come up, with K-19 called bad.
  • This one performed better and feels more modern, but Hunt for Red October's outside plot and its Ramius versus Jack Ryan material are richer; it is called neck and neck.
  • Jason Robards cameos come up, with Enemy of the State mentioned and a preference voiced for this one.
  • The movie is really nobody's Apex: good people passing through, not peaking.
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  • Washington, who establishes himself as a movie star at another level, still discussed 25 years later.
  • A case for Hackman or Scott is considered, but it has to be Denzel supercharging into mainstream stardom.
  • Don Simpson and Denzel are joked about as a tie.
  • Denzel as well, since his part was a little harder. — Bill Simmons
  • Without A Few Good Men there is a case for Hackman, but his performance carries Jessup fumes, and Nicholson did it better with a higher ceiling.
  • Al Pacino is joked to have won this podcast.
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