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The Shining

year 1980decade 80sdirector Stanley Kubrickgenre Horror
host Bill Simmonshost Sean Fennesseyhost Chris Ryan
All 15 categories

Most Rewatchable Scene · 36:20

Wendy discovers the manuscript and confronts Jack on the staircase

Bill Simmons: The opening helicopter imagery and its theatrical impact are praised; old square television framing diminished it.

Jack’s anger at Wendy’s writing interruption is nominated, with her hurt and the warning signs of their marriage discussed.

The Neil McCauley “A Book about Metals” Award for Best Line from the Movie · 1:30:47

“I would give my goddamn soul for a glass of beer”

Bill Simmons: The offer of a soul for beer is interpreted as the moment the ghosts gain control; the announcement of coming home is also nominated.

The film

The Shining (1980)

Directed by Stanley Kubrick · Horror

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Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

Jack Nicholson Jack Torrance
Shelley Duvall Wendy Torrance
Danny Lloyd Danny
Scatman Crothers Hallorann
Barry Nelson [Stuart] Ullman
Philip Stone Grady
Anne Jackson Doctor
Tony Burton Durkin
Lia Beldam Young woman in bath
Billie Gibson Old woman in bath
Barry Dennen Watson
David Baxt Forest ranger 1
Manning Redwood Forest ranger 2
Lisa Burns Grady daughter
Louise Burns Grady daughter
Robin Pappas Nurse
Alison Coleridge Secretary
Burnell Tucker Policeman
Jana Sheldon Stewardess
Kate Phelps Receptionist
Norman Gay Injured guest

Everything from the episode

In the order the hosts got to it. Open a row for the discussion.

36:20

Most Rewatchable Scene

Wendy discovers the manuscript and confronts Jack on the staircase

Wendy discovers the manuscript and confronts Jack on the staircase

In the discussion (13)
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  • The opening helicopter imagery and its theatrical impact are praised; old square television framing diminished it. — Bill Simmons
  • Jack’s anger at Wendy’s writing interruption is nominated, with her hurt and the warning signs of their marriage discussed.
  • Jack’s drink with Lloyd is praised for Nicholson’s expressive face and commitment.
  • The manuscript discovery and stair confrontation are praised for both performances, staging, terror and the revelation of the repeated sentence.
  • The manuscript’s typing is recounted, with the teardrop-shaped page and quoted indentation singled out. — Bill Simmons
  • The panel debates how many pages Wendy needs to inspect before understanding the manuscript. — Bill Simmons
  • The axe-through-the-bathroom-door sequence is nominated as an outstanding horror scene.
  • The iconic bathroom attack is admired, but prior exposure to parodies diluted its terror for one viewer; Jack abandoning the attack prompts a question. — Sean Fennessey
  • The killing of Scatman Crothers is praised as shocking: Nicholson is hidden behind a pillar and the long return suggests a larger role. — Bill Simmons
  • Danny’s maze escape is praised for his preparation and retracing of footprints. — Bill Simmons
  • The second Gold Room visit and Grady conversation are added, along with the introductory hotel tour. — Chris Ryan
  • The ice-cream conversation is praised for explicitly acknowledging the supernatural power. — Sean Fennessey
  • The manuscript discovery and staircase scene receive the final selection. — Bill Simmons
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55:59

What’s Aged the Best?

Hallorann’s bedroom; REDRUM mirror reveal; Tony; Grady’s “correcting”; maze; twins; Nicholson’s drool; Overlook Hotel...

Hallorann’s bedroom; REDRUM mirror reveal; Tony; Grady’s “correcting”; maze; twins; Nicholson’s drool; Overlook Hotel; “Go check it out”; Steadicam; Big Wheel

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  • Hallorann’s bedroom paintings and bachelor decor are celebrated, with questions about positioning and a pillow beneath his feet.
  • The mirror’s murder reversal and Danny’s eerie alternate voice remain effective. — Bill Simmons
  • Grady’s euphemism of correcting his family is chilling. — Bill Simmons
  • The maze, casting of the twins and Nicholson’s drooling commitment are praised. — Bill Simmons
  • The hotel’s exteriors and constructed interiors are admired; the panel would stay at the location. — Chris Ryan
  • The repeated instruction to check the Snowcat and radio inspires enthusiastic impressions. — Bill Simmons
  • The Steadicam is praised for ghostlike movement behind Danny, with Garrett Brown and earlier uses in Bound for Glory, Rocky and Marathon Man discussed.
  • One ranking puts the bedroom first, Steadicam second and Big Wheel third; the other responses favor Steadicam.
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1:05:15

What’s Aged the Worst?

Treatment of Shelley Duvall

Treatment of Shelley Duvall

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  • The old woman and bear-costume scene are offered as disturbing imagery rather than failed effects; the woman’s identity remains uncertain.
  • Cutting the snowcat phone call is proposed and its length disputed; leaving the hotel occasionally is defended as making the return more intense. — Bill Simmons
  • Stories of Duvall’s stress, illness and harsh treatment during repeated takes are discussed with concern and compared with Nicholson’s response. — Bill Simmons
  • Conspiratorial readings are criticized; Room 237 is defended as a portrait of interpretation, and nostalgia for freer online film discussion complicates the objection. — Chris Ryan
  • The treatment of Duvall becomes the final reluctant aged-worst selection after a debate about the social danger of conspiracy thinking.
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1:14:26

Casting What-Ifs

Jessica Lange; Harrison Ford; Robert De Niro; Robin Williams; Harry Dean Stanton

Jessica Lange; Harrison Ford; Robert De Niro; Robin Williams; Harry Dean Stanton

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1:15:55

The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

Tony Burton; Barry Nelson

Tony Burton; Barry Nelson

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  • Tony Burton is identified through Duke in the Rocky films and the Snowcat phone call. — Bill Simmons
  • Barry Nelson is added as the hotel proprietor, with a distinction between recognition from this film and from Rocky. — Bill Simmons
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1:16:29

The Ruffalo / Hanna / Rubinek / Partridge Overacting Award

Nicholson in the maze; Shelley Duvall

Nicholson in the maze; Shelley Duvall

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  • The award’s rename to Linda Partridge is explained; Nicholson’s freezing, roaring maze finish is nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • Duvall’s hysteria is offered, then both performances are defended as matching the film’s heightened style.
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1:18:05

The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance

Scatman Crothers; Lloyd the bartender; Delbert Grady

Scatman Crothers; Lloyd the bartender; Delbert Grady

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  • Crothers is offered first and Lloyd is defended for his creepy smile and delivery. — Bill Simmons
  • Philip Stone’s contained Grady performance is advocated because the racist language and correction story reveal the hotel’s evil. — Sean Fennessey
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1:18:57

Recasting Couch

Young Meryl Streep as Wendy; Gary Coleman as Danny

Young Meryl Streep as Wendy; Gary Coleman as Danny

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  • A young Streep as Wendy is proposed alongside a joking Gary Coleman replacement for Danny.
  • Streep’s quiet intensity is contrasted with Duvall’s unrestrained performance, making the original leads difficult to replace. — Sean Fennessey
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1:19:46

Half-Assed Internet Research

Danny’s finger; performance demands; doors; child protection; repeated takes; artificial snow; Elstree schedule; Play...

Danny’s finger; performance demands; doors; child protection; repeated takes; artificial snow; Elstree schedule; Playgirl; room number

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  • Danny’s finger motion reportedly emerged in his audition; Nicholson reportedly admired Duvall’s difficult role. — Bill Simmons
  • The door scene reportedly required three days and sixty doors; Danny was shielded from horror material and replaced with a dummy for one confrontation. — Bill Simmons
  • Crothers reportedly endured over a hundred takes, then welcomed Eastwood’s sparse-take approach on Bronco Billy. — Bill Simmons
  • Maze snow is described as salt and styrofoam; Duvall reportedly needed water to keep crying, a claim questioned in discussion. — Bill Simmons
  • The Elstree shoot reportedly expanded from seventeen to fifty-one weeks, delaying Reds and Raiders of the Lost Ark.
  • Jack’s Playgirl magazine prompts uncertainty about its meaning and presence in the lobby. — Bill Simmons
  • The hotel reportedly requested changing room 217 to 237, although 217 later became a requested room. — Bill Simmons
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1:25:30

Apex Mountain

Shelley Duvall (qualified); caretakers

Shelley Duvall (qualified); caretakers

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  • Duvall receives yes responses, challenged by Nashville and Annie Hall and by whether the film improved her opportunities; Popeye supports a qualified answer. — Sean Fennessey
  • Caretakers receive an affirmative response; bartenders named Lloyd are raised without an explicit resolution. — Sean Fennessey
  • Axe murderers are rejected with So I Married an Axe Murderer mentioned; Nicholson and Kubrick are rejected, with 2001 favored for Kubrick. — Bill Simmons
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1:26:41

Picking Nits

Danny’s healing bruises and cold tolerance; two Gradys; disappearing wall decoration and chair

Danny’s healing bruises and cold tolerance; two Gradys; disappearing wall decoration and chair

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  • Danny’s rapidly disappearing bruises and tolerance of the freezing maze are questioned, with supernatural healing and adrenaline offered. — Bill Simmons
  • Charles versus Delbert Grady prompts a reincarnation theory and a more general reading of an inconsistent haunted building. — Bill Simmons
  • A disappearing Dopey decoration and chair are debated as continuity errors or deliberate puzzles; the symbolic explanations receive pushback. — Bill Simmons
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1:30:47

The Neil McCauley “A Book about Metals” Award for Best Line from the Movie

“I would give my goddamn soul for a glass of beer”; “Wendy, I’m home”; “Here’s Johnny”; “Some places are like people,...

“I would give my goddamn soul for a glass of beer”; “Wendy, I’m home”; “Here’s Johnny”; “Some places are like people, some shine and some don’t”; “You’ve had your whole fucking life to think things over. What good’s a few more minutes going to do now?”

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  • The offer of a soul for beer is interpreted as the moment the ghosts gain control; the announcement of coming home is also nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • Here’s Johnny is admired as timely Carson-era shorthand and perhaps now more famous than its source.
  • The line about places shining is another selection.
  • The demand to stop delaying after a lifetime to think is another favorite line.
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1:33:41

Sequel, Prequel, Limited Series, or All-Black Remake

A modern internet-era series; a caretaker obsessed with The Shining

A modern internet-era series; a caretaker obsessed with The Shining

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  • The previous miniseries is judged unsuccessful, but more pre-hotel time with Jack’s drinking and failed work is welcomed.
  • Doctor Sleep is recommended as an attempt to reconcile the book and film. — Sean Fennessey
  • A modern series could use internet research and Reddit; an obsessed fan becoming a caretaker is enthusiastically proposed.
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1:36:22

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Music; impossible windows; elevator blood; Danny’s trauma; added apparitions; caretaker job; final photograph; annive...

Music; impossible windows; elevator blood; Danny’s trauma; added apparitions; caretaker job; final photograph; anniversary party

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  • The Shining is favored over Sleeping with the Enemy for the frightening use of a musical selection whose title is uncertain in the transcript. — Bill Simmons
  • Impossible windows are debated as continuity errors or intentional design.
  • Running away is favored as the response to blood from elevators; the hosts recount that Kubrick called the trailer imagery red water. — Bill Simmons
  • A sexual-abuse interpretation is raised but not endorsed; physical abuse is the panel’s reading, with Dr. Sleep suggested for more mythology.
  • Additional apparitions are imagined, including podcast in-jokes and a Big Wheel moving by itself or ridden by an adult.
  • The isolated caretaker job is considered as a writing retreat, with concern about the people attracted to it and preference for company.
  • The final photograph prompts reincarnation, soul absorption and Faustian-bargain readings; the next caretaker and a next-year sequel are imagined.
  • An Overlook centenary party with a hired Lloyd is proposed and met with reluctance to recreate the film. — Bill Simmons
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1:44:34

Who Won the Movie?

Stanley Kubrick

Stanley Kubrick

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  • Two explicit Kubrick choices outvote one Nicholson choice.
  • The case for Kubrick contrasts Nicholson’s uneven, already sinister early performance with accessible genre entertainment and remarkable filmmaking.
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Jack Nicholson
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Stanley Kubrick
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