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Do not drink the coffee

Chris Ryan: The practical lesson is to refuse Barney’s coffee.

The film

The Vanishing (1993)

Directed by George Sluizer · Horror

109 minutes

Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

Jeff Bridges Barney Cousins
Kiefer Sutherland Jeff Harriman
Nancy Travis Rita Baker
Sandra Bullock Diane Shaver
Maggie Linderman Denise Cousins
Lisa Eichhorn Helene Cousins
George Hearn Arthur Bernard
Lynn Hamilton Miss Carmichael

Everything from the episode

In the order the hosts got to it. Open a row for the discussion.

15:31

Roger Ebert's review

In the discussion (5)
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  • The episode calls this the first one-star review covered after roughly 275 episodes. — Bill Simmons
  • Ebert is reported to have said the returning director savaged his own masterpiece as thoroughly as a hired hack. — Bill Simmons
  • His review is summarized as asking whether Americans were assumed to need a more elementary version than Europeans. — Bill Simmons
  • The quoted conclusion calls the original a masterpiece and the remake laughable, stupid, and crude. — Bill Simmons
  • The panel feels personally stung because both participants love the remake. — Chris Ryan
17:40

Most Rewatchable Scene

Split: the Barney-to-coffin stretch; Jeff discovering Diane missing at the gas station

Split: the Barney-to-coffin stretch; Jeff discovering Diane missing at the gas station

In the discussion (15)
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  • The first ten minutes establish Barney as a psychopath through his chloroform tests and preparation. — Bill Simmons
  • Diane shouts that nobody can see their stopped car until they are on top of it and points out that Jeff passed ten gas stations. — Chris Ryan
  • Diane entering the gas station and Jeff slowly realizing she has vanished makes the premise terrifying. — Bill Simmons
  • Rita cracking Jeff’s password, putting on a black wig, and entering his command post is praised as Hitchcock and De Palma style suspense. — Bill Simmons
  • Jeff saying he would let Diane be dead in exchange for certainty reveals the depth of his obsession. — Chris Ryan
  • Barney hiding behind the door after Rita hears his answering-machine message uses a favorite horror trick. — Bill Simmons
  • Barney’s answering-machine introduction, keychain, and calm response after Jeff beats him create a bizarre confrontation. — Bill Simmons
  • The drive pairs Barney’s insistence that he is not a rapist with a roast-beef sandwich and a police stop. — Bill Simmons
  • Barney’s rescue story turns into an argument about free will and balancing good with deliberate evil. — Bill Simmons
  • The abduction flashback shows how a cheap bracelet offer persuades Diane into Barney’s car.
  • Jeff drinking the coffee despite understanding the trap demonstrates that knowing is worth dying to him.
  • Jeff waking in the coffin is singled out as terrifying and a personal worst fear.
  • Rita reversing the trap and striking Barney with a shovel makes the revised ending satisfying.
  • The whole stretch from Barney’s arrival through the beating, drive, coffee, coffin, and rescue is praised as a great twenty minutes.
  • The final personal choice is Jeff at the gas station realizing Diane is gone. — Bill Simmons
34:35

The Neil McCauley “A Book about Metals” Award for Best Line from the Movie

“Your obsession is my weapon”

“Your obsession is my weapon”

In the discussion (2)
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  • Barney’s line is called one of the great movie quotes.
  • The panel compares the strategy to taking away an opponent’s best option in football.
35:29

Picking Nits

The coffin escape, whether Diane ditched Jeff, the missing family search, Rita’s job and sudden sobriety, failure to ...

The coffin escape, whether Diane ditched Jeff, the missing family search, Rita’s job and sudden sobriety, failure to call police, Barney’s exposure, family behavior, drug timing, grave logistics, and Jeff’s honesty with police

In the discussion (13)
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  • If death in the coffin is otherwise certain, the panel debates using the lighter to burn or loosen the lid, while acknowledging smoke inhalation. — Bill Simmons
  • Jeff never appears to treat Diane simply ditching him after their fight as a live possibility. — Chris Ryan
  • Diane’s parents, siblings, and friends are strangely absent from the three-year search. — Chris Ryan
  • Jeff remains on local television yet is treated as a laughing stock despite Diane leaving no financial trace. — Chris Ryan
  • The panel asks if Rita is still a waitress or works at the bar and says it has no idea how she makes money. — Bill Simmons
  • Jeff should call police immediately after Barney identifies himself and survives the beating. — Bill Simmons
  • Barney uses his real name and school, giving Jeff obvious ways to expose him even without a murder charge. — Chris Ryan
  • Rita goes from drinking heavily at the bar to sober police-station problem solving within about five minutes. — Bill Simmons
  • Barney’s daughter and wife do not react plausibly to his secretive cabin behavior. — Bill Simmons
  • The panel asks why the daughter wants her father to cheat on her mother so badly. — Bill Simmons
  • The chloroform would need to keep Jeff unconscious through a drive, transport, and burial that seem longer than shown. — Bill Simmons
  • An open grave near the cabin would be difficult to hide from visitors. — Bill Simmons
  • When police ask whether the vanished couple fought, the proposed answer is no so they can start looking. — Chris Ryan
36:56

What’s Aged the Best?

Barney’s setup, the anagram, Jeff’s pathetic obsession, smoking as instant trauma shorthand, the villain name, early ...

Barney’s setup, the anagram, Jeff’s pathetic obsession, smoking as instant trauma shorthand, the villain name, early Bullock and Sutherland, and odd relationship lines

In the discussion (7)
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  • Barney’s craziness is established before the movie shifts into Diane and Jeff’s story. — Bill Simmons
  • Diane Shaver is identified as an anagram of “she vanished.” — Bill Simmons
  • Jeff’s attack on Rita for leaving makes his pathetic obsession unusually vivid. — Bill Simmons
  • Kiefer lighting a cigarette as soon as Diane disappears is praised as compact trauma shorthand. — Bill Simmons
  • Barney Cousins is called an excellent villain name. — Bill Simmons
  • The film captures Sandra Bullock immediately before Speed and Kiefer Sutherland before his later action-star identity. — Bill Simmons
  • Nancy Travis’s line about no secrets “in the heart or on the lips” is preserved as memorably strange. — Bill Simmons
39:02

The Slow Ride / Kid Cudi – Pursuit of Happiness Award for Best Needle Drop

Copacabana

Copacabana

In the discussion (1)
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  • Copacabana plays while Rita gets drunk with her friend. — Chris Ryan
39:21

The Big Kahuna Burger Award for Best Use of Food and Drink

Barney’s repeatedly served black coffee

Barney’s repeatedly served black coffee

In the discussion (1)
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  • The winning image is black coffee kept searing hot in the same mug. — Bill Simmons
39:21

The Den of Thieves Benihana Award for Scene-Stealing Location

The boathouse coffee meeting and the North Bend gas station

The boathouse coffee meeting and the North Bend gas station

In the discussion (2)
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  • The boathouse is chosen for the spectacle of two obsessed men melting down in public over black coffee and cigarettes. — Chris Ryan
  • The alternate answer is the gas station, which the panel says was picked well. — Chris Ryan
39:57

The Great Shot Gordo Award for Most Cinematic Shot

Jeff waking in the coffin

Jeff waking in the coffin

In the discussion (2)
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  • The lighter revealing Jeff inside the coffin is the cinematic-shot choice. — Bill Simmons
  • The bathroom realization that Rita is putting on Diane’s clothes is offered as another cinematic shot. — Chris Ryan
39:57

The Butch’s Girlfriend Award for the Weakest Link in the Film

Rita staying after discovering Jeff’s command post and Rita’s permissive diner friend

Rita staying after discovering Jeff’s command post and Rita’s permissive diner friend

In the discussion (3)
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  • Rita discovers a fake Army Reserve story, the command post, and proof that Jeff remains obsessed, yet still stays. — Bill Simmons
  • The panel argues that Rita should leave rather than keep fighting for Jeff. — Bill Simmons
  • Rita’s diner friend casually encourages daytime drinking and prank messages despite Jeff’s dangerous obsession. — Chris Ryan
41:52

What’s Aged the Worst?

Hacky sack, answering-machine plot devices, Rita’s diner job, the missing digital trail, Jeff’s behavior, drinking wh...

Hacky sack, answering-machine plot devices, Rita’s diner job, the missing digital trail, Jeff’s behavior, drinking while driving, old gas stations, reviews, the appended ending, reused titles, and fragmented streaming libraries

In the discussion (11)
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  • Hacky sack now looks tied to its era. — Bill Simmons
  • Answering-machine messages as major plot devices have disappeared. — Bill Simmons
  • Rita’s overnight diner work seems implausibly limiting for a smart, resilient problem solver. — Bill Simmons
  • The couple’s improved apartment and income after the time jump are unexplained. — Bill Simmons
  • Modern cameras and phone tracking would likely expose a gas-station abduction quickly. — Bill Simmons
  • Jeff’s poor driving, emergency judgment, income, and obsessive search are treated as increasingly hard to defend. — Chris Ryan
  • A passenger openly drinking beer in the car is identified as a vanished screen norm. — Chris Ryan
  • Full-service gas stations as social spaces have declined. — Chris Ryan
  • The hostile reviews are said to have aged worse than the beloved cable movie. — Bill Simmons
  • The celebratory book-and-no-coffee ending is criticized as a self-parodying early-1990s appendage. — Bill Simmons
  • Reusing The Vanishing for another movie and incomplete streaming libraries make the correct film unusually hard to locate. — Chris Ryan
45:47

The Ron Burgundy Flute Award for the Best Time for a Pee Break

The book-publisher pitch and Rita questioning the eccentric neighbor

The book-publisher pitch and Rita questioning the eccentric neighbor

In the discussion (2)
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  • The random publisher pitching Jeff’s book is one pee-break choice. — Chris Ryan
  • Rita questioning the neighbor about Jeff’s beating of Barney is the alternate.
46:14

The Ruffalo / Hanna / Rubinek / Partridge Overacting Award

The neighbor who reports a dancing Lucky Charms leprechaun

The neighbor who reports a dancing Lucky Charms leprechaun

In the discussion (2)
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  • The neighbor’s account moves from the assault to a cereal-box leprechaun dancing around the room.
  • The panel says the character seems to belong in an asylum rather than merely being eccentric. — Bill Simmons
47:02

Is There a Better Title for This Movie?

The Vanishing

The Vanishing

In the discussion (2)
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  • The initial answer is that the existing title should stay. — Bill Simmons
  • Your Obsession Was My Weapon is offered as a strong alternate. — Bill Simmons
47:15

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

American remakes of less-accessible foreign films can work when they add something; full-service gas stations should ...

American remakes of less-accessible foreign films can work when they add something; full-service gas stations should return

In the discussion (4)
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  • The take is willingness to remake a foreign film that the participant would otherwise never watch. — Bill Simmons
  • Vanilla Sky is contrasted with Open Your Eyes as a remake of a foreign movie already worth seeking out. — Bill Simmons
  • The American Vanishing is defended for bringing a radically different ending and decades of rewatch value. — Bill Simmons
  • Full-service gas stations should return as places to eat, drink, and spend time. — Chris Ryan
48:31

Casting What-Ifs

No historical casting what-if found

No historical casting what-if found

In the discussion (1)
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  • Both participants report finding no casting what-if in the sparse material about the remake. — Bill Simmons
49:03

The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

Lynn Hamilton as the eccentric neighbor

Lynn Hamilton as the eccentric neighbor

In the discussion (1)
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49:18

The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance

Sandra Bullock

Sandra Bullock

In the discussion (1)
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49:34

Recasting Couch

Keep Sandra Bullock as the missing woman and Nancy Travis as the partner

Keep Sandra Bullock as the missing woman and Nancy Travis as the partner

In the discussion (3)
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  • Switching the two female leads is proposed as the recasting question. — Chris Ryan
  • Bullock is kept as the vivid person the audience misses. — Bill Simmons
  • Travis is credited with selling a woman who realizes her partner never escaped his obsession. — Bill Simmons
49:51

Half-Assed Internet Research

Seattle-area locations, the Ted Bundy arm-cast method, Kubrick’s praise for the original, and immediate missing-perso...

Seattle-area locations, the Ted Bundy arm-cast method, Kubrick’s praise for the original, and immediate missing-person reporting

In the discussion (5)
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  • The cabin was filmed in Monroe, Washington, and the gas station was the Mountainside Shell in North Bend. — Bill Simmons
  • Barney’s fake arm cast is linked to a method used by Ted Bundy. — Bill Simmons
  • Stanley Kubrick reportedly called the 1988 original the most terrifying film he had seen. — Bill Simmons
  • The claim that police require a twenty-four-hour wait before a missing-person report is called a movie myth. — Chris Ryan
  • A former police officer is reported to have confirmed that a report can be taken immediately. — Chris Ryan
52:12

Apex Mountain

Nancy Travis, characters named Barney or Cousins, full-service gas stations, and Seattle

Nancy Travis, characters named Barney or Cousins, full-service gas stations, and Seattle

In the discussion (7)
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53:05

Best Race Horse Name from This Movie

Infinity Bracelet and The Vanishing

Infinity Bracelet and The Vanishing

In the discussion (2)
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58:32

The Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson

Do not drink the coffee

Do not drink the coffee

In the discussion (2)
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  • The practical lesson is to refuse Barney’s coffee. — Chris Ryan
  • A possible earlier lesson is to say no when police ask whether you fought with a recently vanished partner, so the search can begin. — Chris Ryan
58:56

Sequel, Prequel, Limited Series, or All-Black Remake

A prestige series

A prestige series

In the discussion (4)
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  • An all-Black remake receives an immediate sign-me-up response. — Bill Simmons
  • A Barney prequel would at least get the panel’s attention. — Bill Simmons
  • A prequel about Jeff and Diane getting together is also desired. — Bill Simmons
  • A prestige series could spend an episode on the couple, then move backward into Barney while delaying his reveal. — Bill Simmons
1:00:16

Is This Movie Better With…?

Wayne Jenkins as the cop

Wayne Jenkins as the cop

In the discussion (2)
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1:00:52

Just One Oscar

Jeff Bridges

Jeff Bridges

In the discussion (1)
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  • The Oscar is assigned to Bridges without a competing choice. — Chris Ryan
1:01:12

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Extended universes; Barney’s family and death; Jeff’s recovery; police attention; Diane’s remains; the book; Rita’s c...

Extended universes; Barney’s family and death; Jeff’s recovery; police attention; Diane’s remains; the book; Rita’s contribution; a stranger ending

In the discussion (9)
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  • The movie is tested as part of either the A Few Good Men or Singles extended universe. — Bill Simmons
  • A deliberately dark question about Barney’s daughter is raised and rejected through the Wuthering Heights explanation. — Bill Simmons
  • Jeff’s unexplained recovery from three years of obsession is called an unpredictable bounce-back. — Chris Ryan
  • The panel asks why police never intervene as Barney wanders public spaces asking women for directions. — Bill Simmons
  • Jeff and Rita’s explanation for Barney’s shovel death is missing before the book celebration. — Chris Ryan
  • Barney’s disappearance should trigger his family and expose Diane’s buried remains. — Bill Simmons
  • The content and commercial result of Jeff and Rita’s jointly written book are unclear. — Chris Ryan
  • Rita’s contribution beyond her diner work is questioned. — Chris Ryan
  • The panel asks where Rita got the black wig and considers a version where Barney’s wife is the mastermind. — Chris Ryan
1:03:03

Best Double Feature

The original Vanishing and Jagged Edge
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1:05:03

The Andy and Red – Zihuatanejo Award for What Happens the Next Day?

Barney’s family faces the loss, and the murder cabin is unlikely to sell.

Barney’s family faces the loss, and the murder cabin is unlikely to sell.

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  • The next day is called a tough beat for Barney’s wife and daughter. — Bill Simmons
  • The cabin is unlikely to resell once Diane’s body is found there. — Chris Ryan
  • The badly concealed body-length mound creates another problem for the property. — Chris Ryan
1:05:53

What Piece of Memorabilia Would You Want From This Movie?

The thermos

The thermos

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  • Both participants choose the thermos. — Chris Ryan
  • The Infinity bracelet is considered but treated as unsettling. — Bill Simmons
  • Jeff’s red Jeep Cherokee is another desired item. — Bill Simmons
1:06:43

Who Won the Movie?

Jeff Bridges

Jeff Bridges

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Podcast choices
Speaker not identified
Jeff Bridges
Speaker not identified
Jeff Bridges
1:06:43

Producer review

The producer watched the wrong similarly titled movie first, then liked the remake, its premise, Bridges, Bullock, an...

The producer watched the wrong similarly titled movie first, then liked the remake, its premise, Bridges, Bullock, and the final expansion of the thriller idea.

In the discussion (7)
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  • The producer initially watched a 2018 Gerard Butler movie with a similar Vanishing title. — Chris Ryan
  • The difficulty of locating the correct movie across streaming libraries becomes an additional aged-worst point. — Chris Ryan
  • After watching the right film, the producer says the premise is perfect and the movie is surprisingly complex. — Chris Ryan
  • Jeff Bridges is praised as very good and Sandra Bullock as funny and excellent. — Chris Ryan
  • Rita discovering events through an answering machine and putting on Diane’s clothes is highlighted as an effective turn. — Chris Ryan
  • The closing argues that star-led “from hell” thrillers have largely migrated into horror or television. — Chris Ryan
  • The film’s 105-minute length is praised as ideal for the premise. — Chris Ryan

More from the conversation

The 1993 film remakes a revered Dutch-language film under the same director but replaces its bleak ending after a studio change and test screening.
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The panel values compact star-led scenario thrillers in which familiar actors are terrorized by a simple premise.
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Jeff Bridges’s long career is described as a series of unusual choices whose total quality exceeded any single expected blockbuster breakthrough.
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Barney is compared with early-1990s serial-killer villains while remaining stranger and more domestic than a conventional murderer.
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Hostile critical reception is contrasted with years of cable exposure that made the remake deeply rewatchable for the participants.
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Jeff’s obsession and Barney’s free-will theory turn certainty itself into the weapon used against him.
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The film captures Sandra Bullock and Kiefer Sutherland just before later star identities became fixed.
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The undiarized discussion repeatedly contrasts 1993 technology and public spaces with modern cameras, phones, streaming, and online obsession.
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The American remake debate distinguishes access to foreign films from the obligation to add a meaningful new approach.
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Seattle-area locations give the story a specific gas-station, cabin, waterfront, and city texture.
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The appended happy ending produces several unresolved consequences for Barney’s family, Diane’s body, and Jeff and Rita’s book.
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The producer review expands the episode into a critique of fragmented streaming libraries and the decline of star-led mid-budget thrillers.
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