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The playroom fight

Bill Simmons: The opening credits are praised while the source of the apparent news footage remains uncertain.

Bill Simmons: The kid turning off the alarm and opening the door prompts repeated warnings not to do it.

Keep strangers out

Bill Simmons: Do not let anyone in the house during the purge; build a bunker in the basement and go to bed. Another response refuses to go to bed.

The film

The Purge (2013)

Directed by James DeMonaco · Horror

85

Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

Ethan Hawke James Sandin
Lena Headey Mary Sandin
Adelaide Kane Zoey Sandin
Max Burkholder Charlie Sandin
Edwin Hodge Bloody stranger

Everything from the episode

In the order the hosts got to it. Open a row for the discussion.

22:51

Most Rewatchable Scene

The playroom fight

The playroom fight

In the discussion (6)
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  • The opening credits are praised while the source of the apparent news footage remains uncertain. — Bill Simmons
  • The kid turning off the alarm and opening the door prompts repeated warnings not to do it. — Bill Simmons
  • The polite psycho showing up at the door and then killing his friend escalate the threat. — Chris Ryan
  • Catching the stranger and the invaders breaking in are nominations before the playroom fight is emphatically chosen. — Bill Simmons
  • The pool-table fight’s physical impacts and unusual room make it especially effective; more scenes of that quality are desired. — Bill Simmons
  • The neighbor betrayal and the stranger’s rescue are additional scenes; both hosts reaffirm the playroom fight. — Bill Simmons
28:16

What’s Aged the Best?

The premise; future-setting graphics; gun cabinets; 85-minute runtime; “Release the beast”; refrigerator reveals

The premise; future-setting graphics; gun cabinets; 85-minute runtime; “Release the beast”; refrigerator reveals

In the discussion (6)
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  • The one-sentence legal-crime premise is compared with Carpenter films and 48 Hours. — Bill Simmons
  • Opening future-setting graphics work well, and passing the predicted dystopian date is satisfying. — Bill Simmons
  • A hypothetical Donald Trump presidential cameo is imagined as a striking missed coincidence. — Bill Simmons
  • Secret-code gun cabinets are praised, though the children were not trained and weapon-class restrictions are unexplained. — Bill Simmons
  • The concise 85-minute runtime is preferred to long modern films or a Purge television series. — Chris Ryan
  • Release the beast and the other ritual slogans are memorable; refrigerator-door surprise shots remain effective. — Chris Ryan
34:40

The Big Kahuna Burger Award for Best Use of Food and Drink

Mary’s wine; the no-carb dinner

Mary’s wine; the no-carb dinner

In the discussion (2)
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  • The giant wine glass is nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • A no-carb meal on Purge night is mocked; comfort food might be more appropriate unless staying light on one’s feet matters. — Chris Ryan
35:24

The Great Shot Gordo Award for Most Cinematic Shot

Surveillance-camera footage

Surveillance-camera footage

In the discussion (1)
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  • The child’s surveillance screens and the stranger’s approach make effective use of security-camera images. — Chris Ryan
35:34

Mallory Rubin Award: Did This Movie Need a Better Sex Scene?

More of Grace’s private life

More of Grace’s private life

In the discussion (2)
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  • A better sex scene is desired, but a teenage scene has limits and a parental quickie is floated. — Bill Simmons
  • A sexual scene establishing Grace as unhinged is proposed; leaving the family’s viewpoint is challenged, prompting a neighbor-window alternative. — Bill Simmons
36:56

The Vincent Chase Award: Are We Sure This Character Is Actually Good at Their Job?

The alarm-system salesman

The alarm-system salesman

In the discussion (2)
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  • The security system fails its first sustained attack and seems ornamental; no police response is available during the purge. — Bill Simmons
  • Arson could defeat the fortifications, and the lack of fire is questioned. — Chris Ryan
37:57

The Butch’s Girlfriend Award for the Weakest Link in the Film

The son who unlocks the house

The son who unlocks the house

In the discussion (1)
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  • The son is the weakest link for opening the alarm; the daughter is also called foolish. — Bill Simmons
38:12

The Cliff Booth Award: Is This Movie Better if the Main Character Had a Pet?

Yes: a dog

Yes: a dog

In the discussion (2)
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  • An endangered dog outside would better motivate opening the house, and could later attack Grace; the robot is called a substitute for a pet. — Bill Simmons
  • Amityville Horror’s return to rescue a dog is offered as a comparison. — Bill Simmons
39:51

What’s Aged the Worst?

Mary’s wig and characterization; Zoe; the former novelty of Hawke in horror

Mary’s wig and characterization; Zoe; the former novelty of Hawke in horror

In the discussion (3)
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  • The wig looks cheap, and the character lacks depth despite the performer’s ability; social anxiety about the neighbor party could have helped. — Chris Ryan
  • The shock of Hawke in this genre has faded; the short production schedule and inability to leave the house are discussed as limits that also create claustrophobia. — Bill Simmons
  • Zoe is criticized for ignoring her boyfriend’s obvious threatening behavior on Purge night, compared with Scream’s boyfriend trope. — Bill Simmons
44:25

The Ron Burgundy Flute Award for the Best Time for a Pee Break

The opening ten minutes; the robot-camera sequence

The opening ten minutes; the robot-camera sequence

In the discussion (1)
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  • The opening and lengthy robot exploration are nominated; the latter feels less suspenseful at home than in a theater. — Chris Ryan
45:02

Is There a Better Title for This Movie?

The Purge

The Purge

In the discussion (1)
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  • Release the Beast is suggested but the original title is favored. — Bill Simmons
45:16

The Neil McCauley “A Book about Metals” Award for Best Line from the Movie

“We are going to play the rest of this night out in motherfucking peace.”

“We are going to play the rest of this night out in motherfucking peace.”

In the discussion (1)
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  • Both hosts choose the final insistence on spending the rest of the night in peace. — Bill Simmons
45:16

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

No settled take

No settled take

In the discussion (1)
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  • A joking request for credit for earlier felony-land and leap-year concepts gives way to the view that the movie is itself a hot take. — Bill Simmons
45:43

Casting What-Ifs

No alternatives located

No alternatives located

In the discussion (1)
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46:04

The Ruffalo / Hanna / Rubinek / Partridge Overacting Award

Lena Headey; the interrupting purger

Lena Headey; the interrupting purger

In the discussion (1)
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  • One selection favors the wife’s performer; another favors the masked purger who shouts and is shot by his leader. — Chris Ryan
46:58

The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

Chris Mulkey

Chris Mulkey

In the discussion (2)
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  • Chris Mulkey wins the that-guy award, prompting a joke about calling it the Chris Mulkey award. — Bill Simmons
  • A long supporting career is traced through The White Shadow, First Blood, 48 Hours, Dreamscape, Runaway, Twin Peaks, Broken Arrow and The Fan; steady work and 258 credits prompt financial speculation. — Bill Simmons
50:43

The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance

Grace

Grace

In the discussion (1)
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  • The crazy neighbor is the easy selection, with the table-face-smash singled out; the son’s actor is explicitly rejected and his college acceptance discussed. — Bill Simmons
51:20

Recasting Couch

Jessica Chastain; Keri Russell; Laura Linney; Sandra Bullock; Sydney Sweeney; Emilia Clarke; Rose Leslie

Jessica Chastain; Keri Russell; Laura Linney; Sandra Bullock; Sydney Sweeney; Emilia Clarke; Rose Leslie

In the discussion (2)
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  • Sydney Sweeney is proposed for a modern Zoe; 2013 replacements for the wife include Jessica Chastain and other proposed actresses, with agreement that the part needs more material. — Bill Simmons
  • A modern version leaves Sweeney between age groups; Emilia Clarke and Rose Leslie are alternatives for the mother. — Bill Simmons
53:05

Half-Assed Internet Research

Manson influence; Hawke’s backend deal; Halloween attractions; Grace’s stare; Chatsworth house; divided reviews

Manson influence; Hawke’s backend deal; Halloween attractions; Grace’s stare; Chatsworth house; divided reviews

In the discussion (4)
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  • The white-dressed killers reportedly draw on Manson followers; Hawke’s upfront fee is stated as $3,000 with backend compensation. — Bill Simmons
  • The film became a Halloween Horror Nights scare zone and later a maze. — Bill Simmons
  • Grace reportedly does not blink during the climactic scene; the filming house is located in Chatsworth. — Bill Simmons
  • The director’s affection for films with middling Rotten Tomatoes averages becomes a defense of provocative genre movies. — Chris Ryan
57:21

Apex Mountain

Ethan Hawke; Lena Headey

Ethan Hawke; Lena Headey

In the discussion (6)
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  • Hawke’s 2012–14 run is proposed over the earlier Training Day choice, stressing original projects and upcoming Boyhood. — Bill Simmons
  • Home-invasion films favor The Strangers instead. — Bill Simmons
  • Lena Headey receives a yes because she leads a successful movie while Thrones becomes a phenomenon. — Bill Simmons
  • Blumhouse’s peak is placed later with Get Out and the Halloween revival; this period is its ascendance. — Bill Simmons
  • Pre-Trump political commentary and bizarre evil boyfriends are raised without a settled affirmative answer; more Henry material is desired. — Chris Ryan
  • Anger at listener movie complaints is jokingly proposed as another Apex. — Bill Simmons
1:01:54

Best Race Horse Name from This Movie

Release the Beast; The Purge

Release the Beast; The Purge

In the discussion (1)
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1:02:05

Picking Nits

Condiment-filled refrigerator; home defense; boyfriend rewrite; casual timing; Henry’s plan

Condiment-filled refrigerator; home defense; boyfriend rewrite; casual timing; Henry’s plan

In the discussion (5)
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  • The refrigerator appears stocked mainly with ketchup and mustard, attributed speculatively to the small budget. — Chris Ryan
  • The alarm salesman’s wealth is questioned; an underground shelter would make more sense than a home extension. — Bill Simmons
  • The director reportedly originally had the daughter threaten the father, but the studio required the less convincing boyfriend rewrite. — Bill Simmons
  • The family’s casual loss of time before lockdown is implausible. — Chris Ryan
  • Henry’s expectation of a continuing relationship after killing Zoe’s father makes no sense, and his older-boyfriend behavior is troubling. — Chris Ryan
1:05:53

Sequel, Prequel, Limited Series, or All-Black Remake

All formats already attempted

All formats already attempted

In the discussion (1)
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  • The franchise is said to cover every category format, prompting a joke about renaming the category The Full Purge. — Bill Simmons
1:07:17

Is This Movie Better With…?

Wayne Jenkins

Wayne Jenkins

In the discussion (1)
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1:08:07

Just One Oscar

Ethan Hawke

Ethan Hawke

In the discussion (1)
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  • The lead is the default selection, with Grace suggested for supporting actress. — Bill Simmons
1:08:26

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Crime rules; aftermath; hospitals; economics; government; workplace incentives; escape by plane

Crime rules; aftermath; hospitals; economics; government; workplace incentives; escape by plane

In the discussion (9)
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  • The limits of legal crime and the contrast between victimizing disadvantaged people and settling personal grudges are questioned. — Bill Simmons
  • The killers’ arousal is questioned, and overwhelmed hospitals or morgues are imagined. — Bill Simmons
  • The security company’s reviews and the policy’s claimed effectiveness are challenged; the one-percent statistic is corrected from crime to unemployment. — Chris Ryan
  • Glass, doors, hoses and security could be profitable businesses in this society. — Bill Simmons
  • Democratic approval versus imposed policy is questioned; later films’ Staten Island pilot is recalled. — Chris Ryan
  • Time off for cleanup, social norms, fantasy leagues and betting are imagined. — Chris Ryan
  • Managers could be targets, discouraging promotion or enabling professional advancement; this could support a new television version. — Bill Simmons
  • Leaving by the back door is suggested but the surrounding attackers and unsafe streets make escape difficult. — Chris Ryan
  • A long international flight raises questions about airline prohibitions, pilots and American airspace; an airplane-set sequel is proposed. — Bill Simmons
1:15:48

Best Double Feature

The Purge: Anarchy
In the discussion (1)
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  • The sequel is the choice, with Frank Grillo’s performance praised and compared to Kingdom and Copshop. — Bill Simmons
1:17:09

The Andy and Red – Zihuatanejo Award for What Happens the Next Day?

Cleanup and tense encounters

Cleanup and tense encounters

The panel is imagining how this might look in the future.

In the discussion (1)
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  • Several days of cleanup and running into a failed victim at children’s activities are the forecast. — Bill Simmons
1:17:20

What Piece of Memorabilia Would You Want From This Movie?

The nine ball; the leader’s mask

The nine ball; the leader’s mask

In the discussion (1)
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  • The pool ball and leader’s mask are the choices, though the mask lacks an obvious occasion for use. — Bill Simmons
1:17:39

The Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson

Keep strangers out; build a bunker

Keep strangers out; build a bunker

In the discussion (1)
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  • Do not let anyone in the house during the purge; build a bunker in the basement and go to bed. Another response refuses to go to bed. — Bill Simmons
1:18:17

Who Won the Movie?

Blumhouse; Ethan Hawke

Blumhouse; Ethan Hawke

In the discussion (1)
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  • Blumhouse is selected; another speaker had intended Hawke for his pay and performance but acknowledges Blumhouse’s breakthrough. — Bill Simmons
Podcast choices
Bill Simmons
Blumhouse
1:18:36

Producer review

Better than expected; effective 85-minute confinement

Better than expected; effective 85-minute confinement

In the discussion (3)
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  • After Craig is invited to react, the discussion proposes staged Purge sports and acknowledges that spectators would also be at risk. — Chris Ryan
  • The reaction is more positive than expected despite the genre not being a favorite, praising the short runtime and confined setting as a twisted Home Alone. — Chris Ryan
  • The stranger’s presence is framed as a trolley problem, provoking competing responses about family protection and letting him stay. — Chris Ryan

More from the conversation

The premise combines one legal-crime night with relentless home invasion, recalling Escape from New York and Assault on Precinct 13.
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Ethan Hawke’s early-2010s career resurgence and Blumhouse profit-participation model frame the production.
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The premise reportedly followed a road-rage incident and a remark by the director’s wife; Blumhouse provided a small production budget.
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The confined low-budget setting makes the Hollywood narrative rules feel uncertain and the fictional society invites economic and logistical questions.
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The filmmakers’ gun-control interpretation prompts disagreement about original intent, later political resonance and horror as a socially predictive genre.
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Earlier joking leap-day and simulated-crime amusement-park proposals are compared with the premise, without claiming authorship.
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Grand Theft Auto provides a comparison for the fantasy of escaping social rules.
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The franchise’s sequels, television run and disturbing masks are discussed alongside The Strangers and Funny Games.
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The small budget and reported financial success are contrasted with the wooden opening; Hawke’s perceived taste lends credibility distinct from a conventional action hero.
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Dedicated film channels and television marathons are praised as effortless rewatching routes.
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Unusual fight settings prompt comparisons with garages, saunas, spas and churches.
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A Purge-night broadcast with sports-style pregame analysis is imagined.
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Questions about safe states and international escape lead to a debate over surviving alone or with family; Craig is explicitly invited to answer and prefers being alone.
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The hosts defend varied episode choices and maintaining a few major films for future coverage; Country Strong was chosen partly for its larger career discussion.
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An imagined NBA purge night expands into commissioner and television-panel impressions.
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The hypothetical sports purge returns with league publicity, player absences and generational complaints.
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Frank Grillo is described as friendly and upbeat in a personal school-family acquaintance, contrasting with his screen roles.
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