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Commando

90 minutes

Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

Arnold Schwarzenegger Colonel John Matrix
Alyssa Milano Jenny Matrix
Dan Hedaya General Arius
Vernon Wells Captain Bennett
James Olson Major General Franklin Kirby
Bill Duke Cooke
Drew Snyder Lawson
Michael Delano Forrestal
Charles Meshack Henriques
Chelsea Field Brunette Stewardess
Bill Paxton Intercept Officer
Ava Cadell Girl in Bed at Motel

Commando | The Rewatchables

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Producer credits not yet identified.

Most Rewatchable Scene

Garden shed fight; opening sequence; plane escape

In the discussion (24)
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  • The movie starts well: a garbage-truck hit, and Bill Duke is involved in three killings within about the first minute and a half; there is no fat and it moves from the start.
  • The first rewatchable scene is the daughter's kidnapping, set up by a shirtless wood-chopping montage and a father-daughter montage of ice cream, hiking, feeding a deer and fishing, called the greatest father-daughter day ever seen.
  • Hiding under the bed is criticized because it is the first place kidnappers look.
  • The twins are told to run out the window rather than hide, since they can outrun almost anyone. — Shea Serrano
  • Under the bed and lying in the bathtub (as in Training Day) are standard movie hiding places; Taken uses almost the same under-the-bed shot of approaching boots.
  • He takes so long to get his guns that the cars are already driving away; the downhill Bronco run without power steering, lasting about a minute and a half, is a favorite part.
  • Compared with efficient modern kills like John Wick's, the first victims are shot dozens of times, a reminder of how violent the film is.
  • A visible booger in Arnold's nose appears when he is surrounded after the crash.
  • The vehicle is probably a Chevy Blazer, not a Ford Bronco; the caravan could simply have stopped, and the plan fails anyway when he goes off the cliff and is captured.
  • The second most rewatchable scene is the plane escape: he kills the man beside him within seconds, covers him with a blanket, says he is air sick before takeoff, and tells the attendant not to disturb his 'dead tired' friend on the 11-hour flight to Val Verde.
  • He wanders into the cargo hold, hangs from the wheel as the plane takes off, drops into a marsh and checks his watch; surviving the fall is implausible and the falling dummy is obvious.
  • As a nit, the escort should have put Matrix in the window seat; the Red Eye rule is to enclose the abductee.
  • The mall scene is summarized as Arnold fighting about 25 mall cops, throwing a phone booth and swinging from the ceiling, with an implausibly large, all-stuntman security force.
  • Swinging over the railings at the Houston Galleria at Christmas has always been tempting. — Shea Serrano
  • Contestants on The Challenge usually fail to hold on in such stunts; the busy mid-80s mall, with a Swensen's ice cream shop, is a pleasure to see.
  • The Arnold versus Bill Duke hotel-room brawl starts with them inches apart, has lame stage combat and self-mocking dialogue ('I eat Green Berets for breakfast'), and wedges in 10-out-of-10 gratuitous nudity from a couple filming themselves.
  • As a nine-year-old with a tape, pausing on that nude moment took many tries.
  • Driving a forklift into the weapons store and loading a cart like Supermarket Sweep includes scuba flippers he never uses, swimwear, and missile launchers from a store with no alarm.
  • For the finale, the Bennett showdown is bizarre and Arnold goes shirtless under the vest; the garden-shed fight with axes, machetes and saw blades reaches 10-out-of-10 comedic violence, including a man left alive with his arm cut off.
  • The Equalizer's hardware-store finale may have taken the idea from Commando.
  • The garden shed is the pick; the 91-minute director's cut spends most of its extra minute there, adding a second saw-blade kill and another shot of the man missing his arm. — Kyle Brandt
  • Some of Alyssa Milano's lines are saucier in the director's cut.
  • The opening is the pick, the favorite opening of any Arnold action movie, thanks to the music and the men left to guard him dying immediately, plus the stay-downwind smell line. — Shea Serrano
  • Another participant picks the plane escape, enjoying the giant man wandering the aisle and the line about the aisle seat.

Unintentional Comedy Award

Bennett relishing Matrix's challenge to fight

In the discussion (7)
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  • Introduced as not a new category but a special one for this movie; nominees are Arnold chopping wood in a tank top, the father-daughter montage, the hard-to-understand Boy George one-liner over a Creem magazine, Dan Hedaya's accent, and Arnold stripping to a bathing suit to row, part of three gratuitous shirtless moments.
  • The pick is Matrix goading Bennett to drop the guns and fight, with Bennett reacting almost orgasmically, as if on take eight after being told to be creepier.
  • There is a long-running internet theory that Bennett is in love with Matrix. — Kyle Brandt
  • The romance is described as intentional: the director said his coaching was that Bennett hates but loves Matrix, Bennett reminisces about him, and the final exchange ('don't deny yourself the pleasure', shooting him in the balls) is sexually charged, comparable only to Tango & Cash.
  • The theory is rejected: Bennett is more like Zero in John Wick 3, a fan who respects Matrix's killing skill and wants to measure himself against him. — Shea Serrano
  • Bennett wearing a sleeveless shirt with no muscle tone next to Arnold shows huge confidence; he was never frightening, suggesting the filmmakers did not yet know what they had in Arnold.
  • Vernon Wells described his look as Freddie Mercury on steroids; director Mark Lester, coming off Firestarter, said Bennett was in love with Matrix but hated him too.

What’s Aged the Best?

Bill Duke's opening scenes; mid-80s malls; Arnold's secret gun shed; Bill Paxton cameo; Arnold's one-liners; the borrowed 48 Hours theme; Rae Dawn Chong

In the discussion (9)
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  • Bill Duke's three quick opening scenes, mid-80s malls and Arnold's secret gun shed are loved.
  • Bill Paxton's out-of-nowhere cameo ('We lost them, sir') is praised; Paxton had a scene with Arnold in The Terminator, and the guess is Arnold wanted him around.
  • Arnold's one-liners are top of the game: 'I'll be back, Bennett', the Sully 'kill you last' and 'I lied' callback, 'I let him go', 'We'll take Cook's car' and 'Let off some steam, Bennett'; he reportedly had more ad libs in deleted scenes; the cliff scene was considered for this list and called more of a what's-aged-the-best item.
  • Commando unapologetically lifts the 48 Hours steel-drum theme; for a devoted 48 Hours viewer it is jarring but also a reminder of that film.
  • Rae Dawn Chong is the pick: funny, doing fight commentary during the Bill Duke fight and freaking out in the car, a great balance for Arnold; Justin Long in the Die Hard franchise is cited as a later version of the idea. — Shea Serrano
  • Seconding the pick: she fires a rocket, there is no romance with Arnold, and the director says they auditioned widely, including Sharon Stone; a planned romantic scene was cut over concerns about southern audiences reacting to a Black woman and a white man.
  • The Golden Child's love scene with Charlotte Lewis was cut for similar reasons; casting Chong rather than the white girl du jour was inspired.
  • In the mid-80s it was a novelty that she was Tommy Chong's daughter; some once assumed Chong was Mexican because of Cheech.
  • Her career illustrates old Hollywood: Soul Man, then within five years a Melrose Place arc, and it never happened for her.

What’s Aged the Worst?

Borrowed 48 Hours theme; Rae Dawn Chong's instant loyalty; sitcom-family ending; no Commando 2; police handling of Matrix; Dan Hedaya as a former dictator; hiding under the bed; closing song; the missile-launcher plan; the destroyed yellow Porsche

In the discussion (9)
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  • The stolen 48 Hours theme is put in both categories.
  • Rae Dawn Chong's character joins Team Arnold almost immediately despite his wrecking her car, like instant Stockholm syndrome.
  • By the end the three are a full-on 80s sitcom family hugging on the plane, though the kidnapped girl should be scarred.
  • Not getting Commando 2 is named an aged-worst pick; the sequel was set up with Kirby and one last job.
  • Rae Dawn Chong firing the missile launcher is offered as improbable, but others disagree and call it great, including her first firing it backwards.
  • The police let a mall-rampage suspect found with a pile of weapons walk out unhandcuffed and ride in the back of a truck.
  • A 'former' South American dictator makes no sense, and the Dan Hedaya casting is awful.
  • Going under the bed returns, and the closing song, 'We Fight for Love', is horrible compared with Peter Cetera ('Satera' in the transcript) or Point Break's ending.
  • Her plan to fire the launcher at the truck Arnold is in could have gone badly, and destroying the yellow Porsche hurt. — Shea Serrano

Casting What-Ifs

Gene Simmons; Nick Nolte; Wings Hauser as Bennett; Raul Julia as Arius; John McTiernan directing

In the discussion (4)
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  • Gene Simmons and Nick Nolte were in the mix before Arnold got the movie.
  • Bennett was supposed to be played by Wings Hauser ('Wingshouser' in the transcript), who was fired on the first day and replaced by Vernon Wells.
  • The director wanted Raul Julia as Arias, which would have made sense, but they went with Dan Hedaya.
  • John McTiernan ('John McTurne' in the transcript) was offered the chance to direct, turned it down and went on to direct Predator.
In the discussion (4)
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  • The category is framed as having two winners, something not normally done in this category.
  • Vernon Wells, who played Bennett and is remembered from Weird Science, is named first, but is later said not to have won the Joey Pants Award.
  • David Patrick Kelly is one of the best ever in the category, known as the Warriors gang leader and Luther in 48 Hours, and seen in The Crow, Crooklyn and John Wick; the award is given to him.
  • The flight attendant who says the flight will take exactly 11 hours is another candidate: she played Bruce Willis's wife in The Last Boy Scout and Teela ('Tila' in the transcript) in the Dolph Lundgren He-Man movie, but nobody could recall her name.
In the discussion (3)
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  • The award was created after the New Jack City podcast for someone in a different movie from everyone else.
  • Dan Hedaya seems to be in a TV movie or a Family Ties episode as the dictator and is terrible, still the dad from Clueless or Carla's husband on Cheers.
  • A different pick is Henriques ('Enrique's' in the transcript), the man Arnold kills on the plane, who is unaware of how dangerous his charge is.
In the discussion (3)
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  • Bill Duke plays about 12 minutes and dominates, and he wins by being good rather than outrageous; his Green Beret threat is believable.
  • Another submission is the mall security guard on the radio describing a six-foot-two 'gigantic' suspect after asking girls if they want to see him kick some ass.
  • He is compared to Talen Horton-Tucker ('Taylon' in the transcript), and it is asked why Bill Paxton did not play that part.

Recasting Couch

Gary Carlos Cervantes in Dan Hedaya's role; Esai Morales as a younger dictator

In the discussion (4)
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  • The question is which Latino actor should have had Dan Hedaya's role, without defaulting to Jimmy Smits; Edward James Olmos ('Edward James almost' in the transcript) is considered but judged too good an actor.
  • Move Gary Cervantes, already in the film as the man with the 'I love you' note who explains the plan to Arnold, into the dictator role for his slimeball energy. — Shea Serrano
  • Esai Morales ('SI Morales' in the transcript) could have been shoehorned in as a younger deposed dictator or the dictator's son.
  • That actor owns the room against a fully furious Arnold ('mellow out, man').

Half-Assed Internet Research

Filming locations; the dangling-stunt refusal; the cut love scene; Sunbeam Alpine; body count of 109

In the discussion (8)
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  • The mall was the Sherman Oaks mall, which still exists; the Val Verde island is San Nicolas Island ('Nicholas' in the transcript) off Santa Barbara; the climax compound is the Harold Lloyd Estate in Beverly Hills.
  • The same house hosted Beverly Hills Cop's final shootout a year earlier.
  • Mark Lester wanted Arnold to dangle David Patrick Kelly over the edge unaided; Arnold refused and a crane was used.
  • One account says the love scene was shot and cut; it was reportedly meant for the amphibious plane, which makes no sense with a knife at his daughter's throat.
  • Rae Dawn Chong's wrecked red car is a Sunbeam Alpine, a 1960s British sports car.
  • The body-count guess is 206. — Shea Serrano
  • Other guesses are 185 and 85; the official count is 109, with 102 killed by Arnold and seven by others.
  • It is likely the most deaths in an Arnold movie; 300 is cited as a film where about 300 die.

Apex Mountain

Rae Dawn Chong; Vernon Wells; mid-80s yellow Porsches; missile launchers; Val Verde; Bennett's chain mail

In the discussion (11)
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  • Arnold is not at Apex Mountain here.
  • Rae Dawn Chong is at Apex Mountain because this is what she is known for; she should have been bigger.
  • Alyssa Milano is a no; the debate is whether her apex is Who's the Boss or Charmed, which airs all morning on TNT ('T&T' in the transcript), with Melrose Place also mentioned.
  • Bill Duke is a no.
  • For Vernon Wells, among Mad Max, Weird Science and this movie, this is probably the one people reference.
  • Creem magazine is a no; mid-80s yellow Porsches are a yes, as this is probably their best use.
  • Dan Hedaya is definitely not; missile launchers and bazookas are a yes as the first one that comes to mind.
  • The Harold Lloyd Estate is a no because of Beverly Hills Cop; Val Verde, a fictional country made for this movie, is a yes.
  • Bennett's chain mail is volunteered for Apex Mountain along with his physique; he lacks muscle for a fistfight with Arnold, possibly wearing slim-fit chain mail, and looks like he needs more steroids.
  • The wardrobe choice is blamed on 1985 cocaine; his thin arms are distracting in the fight.
  • Still, Bennett is one of Arnold's toughest movie enemies and blew a 10-point lead by not simply killing him.

Picking Nits

Healed shoulder wound; Jenny's schooling; uncomfortable father-daughter scenes; unfazed car crash; convenient seaplane pilot; flight attendant flying a seaplane; barefoot hike

In the discussion (9)
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  • Arnold is shot in the shoulder, offers to fight one-armed, and two minutes later uses both arms as if the wound healed.
  • The wound was needed to make the Bennett fight plausible at all, like the end of Gladiator, where Commodus (Joaquin Phoenix) will not fight Russell Crowe's character unless he is wounded.
  • It is unclear whether Jenny goes to school or whether they are in hiding while still getting ice cream; the house was easy for the killers to find.
  • The father-daughter opening is uncomfortable, shot like a harlequin romance with kisses on the lips and an 'I love you' sign; he carries her like a small child at the end.
  • Rae Dawn Chong's character is not upset enough when her British sports car is wrecked, and nobody is hurt in the crash.
  • They conveniently find a seaplane she can fly, and she seemingly naps through the shootout.
  • The seaplane base guarded by Uzi fire is in L.A., and a flight attendant trained only on a Cessna flying a seaplane is doubted.
  • Why the villains did not kill the daughter once Arnold escaped is raised, then withdrawn after it is explained that they learn of the escape late; the host likens missing it to Tom Brady missing a read.
  • In the opening, Arnold carries his barefoot daughter across rocks on a hike.

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Why no Commando 2; what happened to Val Verde; life after the plane lands; the most indefensible non-sequel

In the discussion (6)
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  • Why no Commando 2, when sequels such as Rambo 2, Lethal Weapon 2, Rocky IV and a long-planned Terminator 2 were working? Maybe Arnold was uninterested or annoyed he only got a thumbs up instead of a full review.
  • Arnold's schedule (Raw Deal in 86, Predator and Running Man in 87, Red Heat in 88) left room if Raw Deal or Red Heat were swapped out.
  • Val Verde was reused in more than one movie by the same producer, so why did it not become the go-to fictional country like Wakanda or Zamunda?
  • After landing, do they face charges, since she might have killed two cops with the rocket launcher, and what becomes of Ray Dawn and Arnold? One view says she is falling for him; another says she stayed only to see the girl.
  • Of Commando 2, Roadhouse 2 with Swayze and Point Break 2 with Reeves, Point Break 2 is the bigger miss; Bodhi should return only in Point Break 4, and Fast and Furious shows the formula works.
  • A Commando sequel with Danny Glover replacing Arnold is not the formula.

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