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25th Hour

135 minutes

Cast

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Edward Norton Monty Brogan
Philip Seymour Hoffman Jacob Elinsky
Barry Pepper Frank Slaughtery
Rosario Dawson Naturelle Riviera
Anna Paquin Mary D'Annunzio
Brian Cox James Brogan
Tony Siragusa Kostya Novotny
Levan Uchaneishvili Uncle Nikolai
Isiah Whitlock Jr. Agent Flood
Michael Genet Agent Cunningham
Tony Devon Agent Allen

25th Hour | The Rewatchables

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Most Rewatchable Scene

Nightclub sequence

In the discussion (15)
Approx. transcript time · 00:54:22Read transcript
  • The opening credits are great and a little emotional, and the opening scene of deciding whether to save the wounded dog sets up the question of whether somebody can be saved.
  • An internet theory that the wounded dog resembles America after 9/11 is mentioned but called a little too English-literature to fully buy.
  • The Feds busting Monty for the drugs in his couch is highly rewatchable because Isaiah Whitlock, Jr. is essentially Clay Davis from The Wire as a drug agent.
  • The big bathroom speech insults every part of New York before turning on Monty himself.
  • The hosts report that Disney wanted to cut the bathroom scene and that Spike and Benioff refused, with Spike calling it one of the reasons he wanted to make the movie.
  • Pepper and Hoffman looking over Ground Zero and arguing about Monty is a great scene with two great actors; the Ground Zero imagery is described as jarring and alarming, with touches like "fuck the Times, I read the Post."
  • Other favorites: the bar scene with Rosario Dawson, Pepper and Hoffman where the bartender invites them to her birthday party; Pepper trying to figure out whether Dawson flipped; Monty deciding not to kill his associate and handing him to the Russians.
  • Frank beating up Monty is called some of the best directing of Spike Lee's career: wide shots, silence except park sounds, and alternating slow motion and live action; it is intense rather than fun.
  • The dream sequence narrated by Brian Cox of the life Monty could have had is praised; a counterview would ask to cut that fantasy montage and end on Monty's face in the car, keeping that last shot.
  • Producer Craig's favorite scene in the movie is said to be the montage; the old-age makeup on Rosario Dawson and Edward Norton is praised, and the imagined kids resemble her more than him.
  • Asked for a most rewatchable scene, the answer is the nightclub sequence, counted at 24 minutes from entering the club to leaving, with the sound design best heard on good headphones.
  • The reply agrees: the sound was incredible on better speakers, and from the Patrice O'Neill bouncer moment through leaving the bar is the best part of the movie.
  • Comparisons are drawn to busy Michael Man scenes in Collateral and Miami Vice, and Spike is called a good chaos director, as in Inside Man, though not when chaos is the point, as in Old Boy.
  • The club is read as a purgatory with three levels (heaven, hell, purgatory); the film withholds the pleasure a morally unrestrained, maybe pre-9/11 movie would indulge, including the Hoffman-Pacquin encounter and the women dancing.
  • While the women dance above, Norton and Pepper discuss whether his girlfriend ratted him out, with his associate pushing that suspicion; the trust-your-partner plot is always welcome.

What’s Aged the Best?

Clay Davis casting; Spike Lee and Rosario Dawson tandem; Norton and Hoffman career timing; the score; three-dimensional cops and Feds; Cool Hand Luke poster; the title

In the discussion (6)
Approx. transcript time · 01:08:36Read transcript
  • Clay Davis as the agent is the first item.
  • The Spike Lee and Rosario Dawson tandem holds up; she is felt to be at her best in his movies, including He Got Game, maybe across three films together.
  • The point in their careers at which the film catches Norton and Hoffman has aged well, and the music is included.
  • Spike Lee's constant distrust of cops, Feds and the D.A. is called understandable, and they are always three-dimensional characters rather than simple bad guys; Inside Man's police hierarchy is a favorite example.
  • The Cool Hand Luke poster in Norton's apartment is great, big and unusually sized; a search for it came up empty.
  • The title 25th Hour, taken from the book, is a strong idea for a title.

What’s Aged the Worst?

Hoffman's teacher-and-student subplot; Frank beating up Monty

In the discussion (2)
Approx. transcript time · 01:18:31Read transcript
  • The subplot of Hoffman's character and his 17-year-old student is a little dicey; it could be removed entirely and the movie would be fine.
  • Frank beating up Monty is beautifully shot but rough and painful to watch; a related nitpick is promised for later.
In the discussion (4)
Approx. transcript time · 01:22:32Read transcript
  • Clay Davis is ruled out because Isaiah Whitlock Jr. has transcended the role; Brian Cox is ruled out after Succession; Patrice O'Neill does not count either.
  • The pick is Saragusa, because younger viewers barely remember him as a football player; his accent is questioned but he is called good.
  • A host recounts that early in his time at ESPN his book agent proposed that he ghostwrite Tony Seraguse's biography for $40,000 "or whatever it was"; he declined and quickly got another agent.
  • He is praised for aging into his post-sports body and pulling off the accent.

Apex Mountain

Ed Norton: Fight Club; 25th Hour as the signature movie where 9/11 is a character

In the discussion (6)
Approx. transcript time · 01:26:51Read transcript
  • For Ed Norton, coming off Red Dragon into this movie is considered, but because this film was not very successful the answer moves from "probably Fight Club" to "It's definitely Fight Club," since he had the most juice after Fight Club, which came a year after his American History X nomination.
  • Afterward his choices seemed like diminishing returns, including the in-between Hulk movie rather than the Angley version with Eric Bona.
  • Norton is called one of the best and for a while the most exciting actor, but the pressure to make good choices and the needs of ego and career locked him into a pattern; Birdman let him lean into that ego.
  • Spike Lee, Benioff and Hoffman are each a no.
  • Movies where 9/11 is a character is a yes: this is called the signature 9/11 movie even though it is not about 9/11, a no-brainer.
  • Barry Pepper is saved for later; his run from 1998 to 2002 (Saving Private Ryan, Enemy of the State, 61, Knock Around Guys, 25th Hour) leads to "his Apex Mountain was probably 61," after which he seemed headed for leading roles that never came.

Sequel, Prequel, Limited Series, or All-Black Remake

Yes, as a last-day-before-prison series

In the discussion (3)
Approx. transcript time · 01:31:45Read transcript
  • The answer is yes, though neither participant wants it made.
  • Somebody's last day before going to jail is a good idea for a Netflix show.
  • It would probably be a terrible Apple TV show that has to be filled out, joked about as starring a Helmsworth brother, or all three with them beating up one.
In the discussion (6)
Approx. transcript time · 01:36:53Read transcript
  • Asked who won the movie, the answer comes in three parts: number three is Rodrigo Preeto for a beautiful-looking movie.
  • An interjection claims the answerer has come all the way around and now counts this among their favorite Spike Lee movies.
  • Number two is Terrence Blanchard for the mournful, restrained score, compared with his sometimes too-bright, major-key scores in the vein of Aaron Copeland.
  • Number one is Spike Lee, who directs with his hands in his pockets and focuses on the moral matter at hand, unlike other films where other interests compete, as in Inside Man.
  • A second pick: Spike, hands down; nobody could have directed it better, though a 1990s-early-2000s Scorsese version (the Bringing Out the Dead era) would have been fascinating, and the director needs a real connection to New York.
  • A suggestion: a first-time director, 25 to 33 years old, might have brought the rawness that the restraint keeps out; the restraint leaves the viewer a spectator like Norton and Pepper looking down on the dancers.
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