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Redford’s last great starring film

Joanna Robinson: Calls Sneakers Redford’s best 1990s film and his last great acting movie, excluding Marvel appearances.

Kyle Brandt: Rates Bish’s slow walk across the sensor-protected room above any Ethan Hunt stunt for its sustained concentration.

The film

Sneakers (1992)

Directed by Phil Alden Robinson · Comedy

126 minutes

Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

Robert Redford Martin Bishop / Martin Brice
Dan Aykroyd Darren "Mother" Roskow
Ben Kingsley Cosmo
Mary McDonnell Liz Ogilvy
River Phoenix Carl Arbogast
Sidney Poitier Donald Crease
David Strathairn Irwin "Whistler" Emery
Timothy Busfield NSA Agent Dick Gordon
George Hearn Gregor Ivanovich
Eddie Jones NSA Agent Buddy Wallace
Stephen Tobolowsky Werner Brandes
Donal Logue Dr. Gunter Janek
Lee Garlington Dr. Elena Rhyzkov
James Earl Jones NSA Director Bernard Abbott

Everything from the episode

In the order the hosts got to it. Open a row for the discussion.

36:33

Most Rewatchable Scene

The sound-based route reconstruction leads the choices; Kyle prefers the final fortress heist, with Joanna also prais...

The sound-based route reconstruction leads the choices; Kyle prefers the final fortress heist, with Joanna also praising the Scrabble decoding.

In the discussion (16)
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  • The 1969 prologue divides the panel: one participant would omit it, while the casting of the younger leads earns praise.
  • The supposed NSA agents confronting Marty is nominated.
  • The password-surveillance scene is nominated for Carl and Crease both wanting a look at the seduction.
  • Marty getting caught in the mathematician’s office is preferred to the preceding surveillance gag. — Bill Simmons
  • The Scrabble-code breakthrough is nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • Cosmo’s return and his financial-equality monologue are nominated.
  • Redford’s restrained reactions make an effective counterpoint to Kingsley’s large performance.
  • The discussion questions why the film treats Cosmo’s equality rhetoric as madness and compares its aging radicals with other films. — Bill Simmons
  • Reconstructing Marty’s journey through remembered sounds is selected for its suspense. — Bill Simmons
  • The sound deductions are enjoyed despite doubts about concussion and implausible memory; the apparent missing Bay Area bridge is defended geographically.
  • Cosmo addressing Marty over the intercom and revealing Liz as a hostage is nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • James Earl Jones’s surprise arrival gives the ending an extra burst of excitement.
  • The team’s requests for rewards make the final negotiation especially funny. — Bill Simmons
  • Praises the entire Warner Brandes operation, from identifying him to the restaurant ruse. — Kyle Brandt
  • Chooses the final fortress heist as his most rewatchable sequence. — Kyle Brandt
  • Chooses the cocktail-party sound reconstruction and also praises the simultaneous Scrabble decoding and box testing. — Joanna Robinson
53:22

The most 1992 thing

Redford’s clothes, computer dating, answering machines, car phones, and the Bay Area setting

Redford’s clothes, computer dating, answering machines, car phones, and the Bay Area setting

In the discussion (9)
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  • Redford’s light-wash straight-leg jeans are nominated.
  • His baseball jacket is nominated and compared with The Natural; the claim that it is the exact same jacket is disputed. — Joanna Robinson
  • Mary McDonnell’s feathered hair is nominated.
  • The team affording an Oakland theater and finding easy street parking feel specific to the earlier Bay Area. — Joanna Robinson
  • Hacker graphics and manipulating a computer-dating service are nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • The assumption that computer dating could not produce a bad match is challenged.
  • An answering machine hiding place and a car-phone plot point are nominated. — Kyle Brandt
  • Siskel billing Timothy Busfield ahead of other stars is selected as a striking sign of thirtysomething’s contemporary prominence. — Kyle Brandt
  • The ending’s choice of charities for the redistributed money feels characteristic of 1992. — Bill Simmons
57:29

What’s Aged the Best?

Information-age paranoia, Redford’s car, comic dialogue, and James Horner’s score

Information-age paranoia, Redford’s car, comic dialogue, and James Horner’s score

In the discussion (12)
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  • The political jabs are reconsidered in the context of 2025.
  • The information-age paranoia and unstable Silicon Valley power figures feel prescient.
  • Giving an antagonist the name Dick creates a reliable insult in the dialogue. — Kyle Brandt
  • Crease’s stumble and the familiar aging-action-hero complaint are praised as a comic stunt. — Bill Simmons
  • Mother’s conspiracy theories are compared with Aykroyd’s own public persona, despite his reported attribution to his brother. — Joanna Robinson
  • The Kennedy conspiracy exchange and the Desert Storm friend joke are praised.
  • Marty’s orange car is admired; it is identified as a 1967 Volkswagen Karmann Ghia rather than a Porsche. — Joanna Robinson
  • Crease rapidly reversing his refusal to shoot his friend is praised.
  • Cosmo’s repeated immediate threat over the box is praised for its direct wording. — Kyle Brandt
  • Crease’s silent reaction to Carl’s camouflage face paint is praised. — Joanna Robinson
  • Poitier’s unexpected profanity and response to a racist guard are praised for their force.
  • Horner’s distinctive mix of saxophone, voices, and piano is praised; the panel cites Nicholas Britell’s admiration for the score.
1:03:52

The Big Kahuna Burger Award for Best Use of Food and Drink

The visible dim sum

The visible dim sum

In the discussion (2)
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  • The opening pepperoni-pizza run initially wins despite the pizza never appearing on screen.
  • Brandes’s dim sum is proposed as a better answer because it is actually visible.
1:04:57

The Great Shot Gordo Award for Most Cinematic Shot

Marty’s sunrise drop-off and the code reflected in Whistler’s glasses.

Marty’s sunrise drop-off and the code reflected in Whistler’s glasses.

In the discussion (2)
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  • Picks Marty being thrown from the car at sunrise with Alcatraz behind him. — Kyle Brandt
  • The sunrise on Lombard Street is praised, but the code reflected in Whistler’s glasses is preferred as the film’s iconic image. — Joanna Robinson
1:05:14

The Slow Ride / Kid Cudi – Pursuit of Happiness Award for Best Needle Drop

Bad, Bad Leroy Brown and Chain of Fools.

Bad, Bad Leroy Brown and Chain of Fools.

In the discussion (3)
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  • Brandes singing Bad, Bad Leroy Brown during karaoke is the initial choice. — Joanna Robinson
  • Aretha Franklin’s Chain of Fools is offered as an alternative, with praise for Aykroyd’s dancing.
  • The discussion asks whether using only the instrumental opening of Dylan’s song still incurs licensing costs. — Joanna Robinson
1:06:45

Chest Rockwell / Brock Landers Award for Best Character Name

Whistler

Whistler

In the discussion (3)
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  • A blind sound expert named Whistler is the leading choice. — Bill Simmons
  • Werner Brandes and Gunter Janek are nominated. — Joanna Robinson
  • Mother, Crease, and Cosmo are also nominated; Cosmo narrowly predates the Seinfeld naming association. — Bill Simmons
1:07:31

Frat Boy Number One Award for Most Unexpected A-List Cameo

James Earl Jones.

James Earl Jones.

Flex pick · Joanna Robinson

In the discussion (1)
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1:08:33

The Butch’s Girlfriend Award for the Weakest Link in the Film

The magical black box and Ben Kingsley’s performance divide the panel.

The magical black box and Ben Kingsley’s performance divide the panel.

In the discussion (8)
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  • Selects the unexplained black box and questions how it could decrypt everything. — Kyle Brandt
  • Ben Kingsley is selected as the weak link for seeming to perform in a different movie. — Bill Simmons
  • Cosmo’s awkward short run is mocked as especially unconvincing beside Redford’s athleticism. — Bill Simmons
  • Kingsley’s intensely serious account of Cosmo is contrasted with the rest of the cast’s lighthearted caper. — Joanna Robinson
  • The panel reads Cosmo’s plea for Marty to stay as possible romantic attachment. — Kyle Brandt
  • Doubts about Kingsley’s choices are tempered by praise for his Sopranos appearance. — Bill Simmons
  • Finds it funny that a brief run is being treated as the film’s weak link. — Joanna Robinson
  • Cosmo’s inconsistent accent is criticized.
1:09:43

The Teddy KGB Award for the Actor in a Completely Different Movie

Ben Kingsley.

Ben Kingsley.

In the discussion (2)
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  • Ben Kingsley receives the actor-in-a-different-movie award. — Bill Simmons
  • His tragic interpretation of Cosmo is contrasted with the other actors’ comic caper performances. — Joanna Robinson
1:09:43

The Ruffalo / Hanna / Rubinek / Partridge Overacting Award

Ben Kingsley.

Ben Kingsley.

In the discussion (2)
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  • Ben Kingsley is also awarded the overacting category. — Bill Simmons
  • His performance is considered too emphatic and insufficiently playful.
1:14:18

Recasting Couch

William Hurt, Jon Voight, and Willem Dafoe as Cosmo; Kevin Costner as Marty.

William Hurt, Jon Voight, and Willem Dafoe as Cosmo; Kevin Costner as Marty.

In the discussion (6)
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1:15:40

What’s Aged the Worst?

Redford’s age mismatch, the seduction scene, and Whistler’s dancing; Scrabble’s datedness is disputed.

Redford’s age mismatch, the seduction scene, and Whistler’s dancing; Scrabble’s datedness is disputed.

In the discussion (4)
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  • Redford’s age does not fit the character’s implied timeline. — Joanna Robinson
  • The panel debates whether Scrabble feels dated, while others defend its continuing appeal. — Bill Simmons
  • The office seduction is criticized for briefly becoming too broad. — Bill Simmons
  • Whistler’s dancing is considered an overly stereotyped performance choice. — Joanna Robinson
1:16:24

Casting What-Ifs

Mary Steenburgen reportedly considered for Liz; the panel discounts the significance.

Mary Steenburgen reportedly considered for Liz; the panel discounts the significance.

In the discussion (2)
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  • The director reportedly resisted casting the older Redford, but his involvement then attracted the ensemble. — Bill Simmons
  • Mary Steenburgen is reported as considered for Liz, though the panel questions how meaningful that consideration was. — Bill Simmons
1:19:09

Mallory Rubin Award: Did This Movie Need a Better Sex Scene?

Carl and Mary should have had a sex scene.

Carl and Mary should have had a sex scene.

Flex pick · Kyle Brandt

In the discussion (3)
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  • Chooses the better-sex-scene flex category for Carl and Mary, rather than Bish and Liz. — Kyle Brandt
  • Carl is inducted into a joking horny-character hall of fame alongside other film characters. — Kyle Brandt
  • The panel jokes that promising a River Phoenix sex scene could have improved the marketing. — Joanna Robinson
1:20:47

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

Redford’s last great starring film; Bish’s slow walk surpasses Ethan Hunt’s stunts.

Redford’s last great starring film; Bish’s slow walk surpasses Ethan Hunt’s stunts.

In the discussion (4)
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  • Calls Sneakers Redford’s best 1990s film and his last great acting movie, excluding Marvel appearances. — Joanna Robinson
  • Rates Bish’s slow walk across the sensor-protected room above any Ethan Hunt stunt for its sustained concentration. — Kyle Brandt
  • The suggestion is that Sneakers may now be Redford’s most popular starring movie, distinguishing it from his Marvel supporting roles. — Bill Simmons
  • Indecent Proposal and All the President’s Men are offered as competing examples of continued cultural recognition.
1:24:51

The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

Stephen Tobolowsky; Donal Logue and Eddie Jones also considered

Stephen Tobolowsky; Donal Logue and Eddie Jones also considered

In the discussion (4)
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1:27:26

The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance

James Earl Jones

James Earl Jones

In the discussion (2)
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1:28:07

The Den of Thieves Benihana Award for Scene-Stealing Location

San Francisco and the Bay Area.

San Francisco and the Bay Area.

Flex pick · Craig Horlbeck

In the discussion (2)
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  • Chooses the location flex category and praises San Francisco’s varied landscape and cinematic range. — Craig Horlbeck
  • Other Bay Area films, recognizable landmarks, and the city’s advantage over Boston are discussed as support. — Joanna Robinson
1:30:10

Half-Assed Internet Research

The intelligence-agency prank, phone-phreak inspirations, and the mathematical consultant.

The intelligence-agency prank, phone-phreak inspirations, and the mathematical consultant.

In the discussion (3)
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  • The director was reportedly fooled by a prank claiming naval intelligence wanted script changes. — Bill Simmons
  • Phone phreakers and Apple’s blue-box origins are discussed as context for the characters. — Joanna Robinson
  • The panel reports that mathematician Len Adleman supplied authentic lecture material and was persuaded by the chance for his wife to meet Redford. — Joanna Robinson
1:33:18

Apex Mountain

Scrabble tiles and evading motion sensors qualify; the major actors mostly do not.

Scrabble tiles and evading motion sensors qualify; the major actors mostly do not.

In the discussion (13)
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  • Redford is rejected for Apex Mountain here. — Bill Simmons
  • River Phoenix is probably rejected; Stand by Me, My Own Private Idaho, and Running on Empty are alternatives. — Bill Simmons
  • Poitier is rejected, with 1967 identified as his stronger period. — Bill Simmons
  • Aykroyd is rejected, and Species is preferred for strange Kingsley performances. — Bill Simmons
  • The slow walk to evade security sensors is accepted. — Bill Simmons
  • Scrabble tiles are accepted. — Bill Simmons
  • Seinfeld wins for the name Cosmo. — Bill Simmons
  • Geese sounding like a cocktail party is discussed, but its use in another unidentified film prevents a clean claim of originality. — Joanna Robinson
  • Sneakers is preferred to Blue Chips for a Mary McDonnell character being pursued by an old flame. — Bill Simmons
  • Dances with Wolves is preferred for McDonnell herself. — Kyle Brandt
  • Braille Playboy is suggested as an Apex candidate. — Bill Simmons
  • Helium-voice humor is enjoyed but not given its Apex here.
  • A later tangent awards ceiling-vent crawling to John McClane after considering Jurassic Park. — Joanna Robinson
1:36:04

Cruise or Hanks?

Tom Hanks as Marty; an older Tom Cruise as Cosmo

Tom Hanks as Marty; an older Tom Cruise as Cosmo

In the discussion (2)
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  • Hanks is the clear lead-role choice; Cruise’s association with running makes the slow walk an amusing counterexample. — Kyle Brandt
  • An older Cruise with Magnolia and Vanilla Sky energy is proposed as Cosmo, while Hanks remains the final answer. — Bill Simmons
1:37:15

Scorsese or Spielberg?

Steven Spielberg.

Steven Spielberg.

In the discussion (1)
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  • Spielberg is chosen; a Scorsese version is imagined with De Niro and Pesci.
1:37:32

What role would Philip Seymour Hoffman play?

Carl preferred for a young Hoffman; Mother initially proposed

Carl preferred for a young Hoffman; Mother initially proposed

In the discussion (1)
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  • Aykroyd’s role is initially suggested, but the panel accepts River Phoenix’s part when considering early-career Hoffman.
1:38:07

Picking Nits

Convenient vents, Cosmo’s motivations, Liz exposing the operation, and Crease’s incomplete travel request.

Convenient vents, Cosmo’s motivations, Liz exposing the operation, and Crease’s incomplete travel request.

In the discussion (7)
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  • Carl’s access through ceiling vents seems to make the elaborate voice-password operation unnecessary.
  • Movie vents are criticized as implausibly spacious, clean, and accessible.
  • Marty is questioned for never checking what happened to Cosmo; his fugitive status is offered in defense. — Bill Simmons
  • Cosmo’s redistribution plan seems inconsistent with his wealth, threats, and violence.
  • Redford and McDonnell’s nearly identical feathered hair is mocked. — Kyle Brandt
  • Liz’s computer-dating remark unnecessarily exposes the operation, although it fits her irritated cover persona. — Kyle Brandt
  • Crease requests first-class airfare but neglects lodging and other travel expenses. — Kyle Brandt
1:43:33

Sequel, Prequel, Limited Series, or All-Black Remake

A sequel or Crease CIA prequel

A sequel or Crease CIA prequel

In the discussion (3)
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  • A sequel is considered appealing even though the original cast could not all return. — Bill Simmons
  • A prequel about Crease leaving the CIA is enthusiastically proposed.
  • The panel jokes that another installment would receive an awkward sneaking-related title.
1:44:52

Is This Movie Better With…?

Scott Hanson calling the surveillance operation like NFL RedZone.

Scott Hanson calling the surveillance operation like NFL RedZone.

In the discussion (1)
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  • Rejects the usual additions and performs a Scott Hanson-style commentary over the heist’s surveillance feeds. — Kyle Brandt
1:47:37

Just One Oscar

James Horner’s score.

James Horner’s score.

In the discussion (1)
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1:48:05

Probably Unanswerable Questions

The NSA’s eventual surveillance powers, San Francisco status, hypothetical rewards, and Redford’s hair.

The NSA’s eventual surveillance powers, San Francisco status, hypothetical rewards, and Redford’s hair.

In the discussion (7)
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  • The panel questions the heroes’ victory in light of later real-world NSA surveillance. — Bill Simmons
  • Sneakers is called a top-tier San Francisco movie, with a wish for still more recognizable city footage. — Bill Simmons
  • Geographic discontinuities in other movie chases lead to questions about Giants-ballpark appearances on film. — Bill Simmons
  • Liz declining a reward prompts hypothetical requests, including stopping Jordan’s baseball retirement. — Kyle Brandt
  • Access to private screenings of new films is proposed as a reward. — Bill Simmons
  • Bill speculates about whether Redford wore a wig; others suggest hair dye, and no conclusion is established. — Bill Simmons
  • The speculation becomes a joking proposal for a podcast about actors’ hair, wigs, and cosmetic changes.
1:58:17

What Piece of Memorabilia Would You Want From This Movie?

The Scrabble tiles, black box, and red 49ers hat.

The Scrabble tiles, black box, and red 49ers hat.

In the discussion (3)
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  • The car and a hypothetical wig are ruled ineligible.
  • The Scrabble tiles and black box are proposed.
  • An answering machine is mentioned, while the red 49ers hat receives enthusiastic support.
1:58:54

The Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson

Check a stranger’s shoes to judge the encounter.

Check a stranger’s shoes to judge the encounter.

In the discussion (2)
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  • Looking at a stranger’s shoes is the preferred clue to how important the interaction may be. — Bill Simmons
  • A competing crude suggestion advocates accommodating a partner’s sexual requests.
1:59:17

Best Double Feature

WarGames and Patriot Games.
In the discussion (2)
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  • WarGames is proposed as a companion film.
  • Chooses Patriot Games for another day of technology and espionage with a major star. — Kyle Brandt
1:59:27

Who Won the Movie?

Robert Redford.

Robert Redford.

In the discussion (1)
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