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Jaws 2

year 1978decade 70sdirector Jeannot Szwarcgenre Thriller
host Bill Simmonshost Chris Ryanhost Sean Fennesseyproducer Craig Horlbeck
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The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award · 57:16

Mayor retaining office

Bill Simmons: The mayor retaining office after the first film is called an extreme sequel contrivance; lawsuits and prosecution would be expected.

Chris Ryan: A counterfactual makes hero Brody mayor facing the same financial pressures. A dissent argues corrupt politicians often recover, especially when locals prioritize tourism income.

The film

Jaws 2 (1978)

Directed by Jeannot Szwarc · Thriller

117 minutes

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Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

Roy Scheider [Martin] Brody
Lorraine Gary Ellen Brody
Murray Hamilton Mayor [Larry] Vaughan
Joseph Mascolo [Len] Peterson
Jeffrey Kramer [Jeff] Hendricks
Collin Wilcox-Horne Dr. Elkins
Ann Dusenberry Tina [Wilcox]
Mark Gruner Mike [Brody]
Barry Coe [Tom] Andrews
Susan French Old lady
Gary Springer Andy [Nicholas]
Donna Wilkes Jackie
Marc Gilpin Sean [Brody]
Ben Marley Patrick
Gigi Vorgan Brooke [Peters]
Jerry M. Baxter Helicopter pilot
Jean Coulter Ski boat driver
Daphne Dibble Swimmer #1
Christine Freeman Water skier [Terry]
April Gilpin Renee
William Griffith Lifeguard
Greg Harris Diver #2
Susan O. McMillan Girl sailor
David Owsley Boy sailor
Oneida Rollins Ambulance driver
Frank Sparks Diver #1
Thomas A. Stewart Assistant dive master [Sparky]
David Tintle Swimmer #2
Jim Wilson Swimmer with child
Kathy Wilson Mrs. Bryant
Herbert Muller Phil Fogarty
Jane Courtney Select woman
Al Wilde Select man #1
Cyprien (Phil) Dube Select man #2
Mary A. Gaffney Mrs. Silvera

Everything from the episode

In the order the hosts got to it. Open a row for the discussion.

4:49

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Brody’s career and recognition; mayoral financing; Miss Amity; shark-kill proof; returning to the water

Brody’s career and recognition; mayoral financing; Miss Amity; shark-kill proof; returning to the water

In the discussion (5)
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  • Why does water-phobic, traumatized Brody remain a beach cop rather than move or capitalize on his shark-killing fame? Corruption is floated jokingly, not asserted.
  • Did Len bankroll the mayor’s campaign? Who competed against Tina for Miss Amity, and how did that pageant operate?
  • Who came second to Brody for Man of the Year, and why did a national hero receive only a small plaque? — Bill Simmons
  • Brody’s extraordinary shark-kill story lacks photographs, prompting playful unreliable-narrator and fever-dream theories; the shark’s disappearance is a counterargument.
  • Why do shark movies work so reliably, and how quickly would Amity residents return to the water? Vulnerability in water and optimism about personal risk are offered.
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5:49

Really Fun Deleted Scenes

Ellen and her boss subplot

Ellen and her boss subplot

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  • A reported deleted implication of Ellen’s involvement with her boss is welcomed as a cut; it was not watched for this discussion.
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20:09

Sequel, Prequel, Limited Series, or All-Black Remake

USS Indianapolis prequel; shark anthology

USS Indianapolis prequel; shark anthology

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  • A Quint/USS Indianapolis prequel and an anthology of shark attacks are preferred franchise possibilities; Spielberg might have been more interested than in another Brody encounter. — Chris Ryan
  • The Indianapolis prequel is endorsed again; credit for the first film’s speech and proposed prequel screenplay remains disputed among Sackler, Milius and Gottlieb.
  • Hypothetical extravagant modern casting, jellyfish hazards inspired by an uncle’s service story, and an Oppenheimer-to-Indianapolis connection extend the prequel pitch.
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23:46

Half-Assed Internet Research

Director replacement; budget and gross; practical production; reused barrel; shark effects

Director replacement; budget and gross; practical production; reused barrel; shark effects

In the discussion (8)
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  • John D. Hancock’s abandoned darker version, action difficulties and possible reduction of Ellen’s role are discussed as competing explanations for dismissal. A proposed Alves/Fields replacement reportedly met a DGA obstacle, treated skeptically.
  • Reported $20 million budget, $208 million gross and seventh-place 1978 finish. — Bill Simmons
  • Florida locations include Hog’s Breath Saloon and Navarre Beach. — Bill Simmons
  • The Sean performer reportedly recalled actual hammerheads approaching during filming; the Brody porch planter reused an original-film yellow barrel. — Bill Simmons
  • The fiberglass cable-junction set was slippery and nearly floated away. — Bill Simmons
  • Numerous sea-monster imitators and a Jaws 2 Topps trading-card set are discussed. — Bill Simmons
  • The original mechanical sharks had deteriorated; the new burned shark looks better but reportedly still malfunctioned.
  • The making-of producers’ account of Hancock’s departure is criticized as evasive. — Bill Simmons
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27:02

What’s Aged the Best?

Williams score; teen beach culture; 908 code; beach montage; lighthouses; visible shark

Williams score; teen beach culture; 908 code; beach montage; lighthouses; visible shark

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  • John Williams’s returning score and prolific contemporary work are praised. — Bill Simmons
  • Beach guitars and teenage socializing, including illicit stashed beers.
  • Brody’s 908 rescue code and the nostalgic beach montage before the tower scene.
  • Translating cruising-car culture into sailboats produces an appealing group hangout. — Bill Simmons
  • Tina’s shark scream, lighthouses and showing the shark often; the already-uniformed household help also prompts questions about the Brodys’ finances.
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30:58

Most Rewatchable Scene

Eddie’s death; boat self-immolation; helicopter attack

Eddie’s death; boat self-immolation; helicopter attack

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  • Happy sailing introductions and the prolonged water-skier attack; the latter reportedly gave the replacement director a self-contained sequence while the script was rewritten.
  • The driver’s accidental gasoline self-immolation is one explicit favorite, with disbelief about her plan.
  • Brody shoots at bluefish near a child, then argues over the shark photograph; the town council has legitimate grounds to question him. — Bill Simmons
  • Eddie’s death and the breaking boat edge are praised; the performer reportedly needed hurried swimming lessons.
  • The first large sailboat attack, Mike’s injury, helicopter destruction and Marge’s death are praised. — Bill Simmons
  • Marge’s rescue attempt is defended as altruistic against an argument that jumping toward the shark is foolish; responsibility shifts toward the Brody parents. — Sean Fennessey
  • The electric-cable climax is inventive despite doubtful science; the earlier dredging cable and shark-sound explanation provide setup. — Chris Ryan
  • Final preferences split among Eddie’s death, the self-immolation and the helicopter; the whole doomed sailing trip is a broad fallback. — Bill Simmons
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34:21

The Great Shot Gordo Award for Most Cinematic Shot

Shark-tower stairs; Eddie pulled under; water-skiing wides; bullets by the water; gala crane shot

Shark-tower stairs; Eddie pulled under; water-skiing wides; bullets by the water; gala crane shot

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  • Brody coming down the shark-tower stairs.
  • Eddie pulled under; water-skiing wide shots; Brody picking up bullets beside his son; gala crane shot over the pool.
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37:47

Picking Nits

Leaving Sean behind; gasoline self-immolation; Andy kissing Sean

Leaving Sean behind; gasoline self-immolation; Andy kissing Sean

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  • Sean should have accompanied unconscious Mike to the hospital instead of remaining with unrelated teenagers in danger; Ellen’s lack of supervision is criticized despite a defense of seventies parenting norms. — Bill Simmons
  • The boat driver should remain still or consider the nearby shore rather than pour gasoline over herself; Tina later survives by staying in the boat.
  • Andy repeatedly kissing unrelated Sean’s cheek during the rescue seems overly familiar.
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40:25

The most 1978 thing

Underage bar drinking and smoking; wife compliments; Donna Wilkes’s haircut

Underage bar drinking and smoking; wife compliments; Donna Wilkes’s haircut

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  • Teenagers drinking and smoking in a bar; praising a friend’s wife as a hell of a woman; Donna Wilkes’s distinct late-seventies haircut. — Bill Simmons
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46:14

The Big Kahuna Burger Award for Best Use of Food and Drink

Party punch; bar pizza

Party punch; bar pizza

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  • Party punch and unappetizing bar pizza; best use is distinguished from food one wants to eat.
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47:24

The Slow Ride / Kid Cudi – Pursuit of Happiness Award for Best Needle Drop

John Williams’s score; no licensed song identified

John Williams’s score; no licensed song identified

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  • John Williams’s score; no specific licensed song identified.
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47:46

Sean Fennessey Award for Stealth Homage That Gives Every Movie Nerd a Criterion Orgasm

Mutiny on the Bounty / Captain Bligh

Mutiny on the Bounty / Captain Bligh

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  • Douglas’s Captain Bligh/Mutiny on the Bounty speech. — Bill Simmons
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47:57

Chest Rockwell / Brock Landers Award for Best Character Name

Len Peterson; Dr. Elkins; Marge

Len Peterson; Dr. Elkins; Marge

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  • Initially declined, then Len Peterson, Dr. Elkins and Marge are offered.
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48:19

The Sean Penn “I Brought My Own Pack” Award for Excellence in On-Screen Smoking

Roy Scheider’s breakfast cigarettes

Roy Scheider’s breakfast cigarettes

Flex pick · Chris Ryan

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  • Scheider’s three cigarettes with coffee before breakfast are elite on-screen smoking. — Chris Ryan
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48:35

The Den of Thieves Benihana Award for Scene-Stealing Location

Hog’s Breath Saloon

Hog’s Breath Saloon

Flex pick · Chris Ryan

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  • Hog’s Breath Saloon in Florida convincingly resembles a Massachusetts bar. — Chris Ryan
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49:00

The Butch’s Girlfriend Award for the Weakest Link in the Film

Slow first hour; unbelieving town council

Slow first hour; unbelieving town council

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  • Slow first hour; town council refusing to credit the man who already defeated a shark. — Bill Simmons
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49:48

What’s Aged the Worst?

Larry Vaughn Jr.’s survival and attitude; Mike’s performance and decisions; too many teenagers

Larry Vaughn Jr.’s survival and attitude; Mike’s performance and decisions; too many teenagers

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  • Larry Vaughn Jr. should have died rather than Marge; Murray Hamilton’s compressed schedule for his wife’s health reportedly explains the mayor’s abrupt exit, though a dissent says his son could still die.
  • Larry Jr.’s taunting Mike about work is objectionable given his father’s earlier conduct.
  • Mark Gruner’s flat performance as Mike and Mike’s irresponsible treatment of his younger brother. — Bill Simmons
  • Bob’s gruesome death was reportedly removed to avoid an R; too many interchangeable teenagers make the cast difficult to track. — Chris Ryan
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52:29

Van Lathan Award for Did This Movie Need More Black People?

At least one Black character or other minority

At least one Black character or other minority

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  • Even one Black character or other minority, such as a deputy, would improve the entirely white community. — Bill Simmons
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54:28

The Ruffalo / Hanna / Rubinek / Partridge Overacting Award

Donna Wilkes; Ann Dusenberry

Donna Wilkes; Ann Dusenberry

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  • Donna Wilkes’s sustained terrified screaming is compelling but annoying; Larry’s physical handling of her is criticized. — Bill Simmons
  • Ann Dusenberry as Tina is a separate choice for emphatic expressions and delivery. — Chris Ryan
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55:52

The Rick Dalton Award for the Greatest Fucking Acting I’ve Ever Seen

Murray Hamilton

Murray Hamilton

Flex pick · Sean Fennessey

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57:16

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

Mayor retaining office; Jackie’s influence on the trip; Jaws 2 ending New Hollywood

Mayor retaining office; Jackie’s influence on the trip; Jaws 2 ending New Hollywood

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Approx. transcript time · 00:57:16Read transcript
  • The mayor retaining office after the first film is called an extreme sequel contrivance; lawsuits and prosecution would be expected. — Bill Simmons
  • A counterfactual makes hero Brody mayor facing the same financial pressures. A dissent argues corrupt politicians often recover, especially when locals prioritize tourism income. — Chris Ryan
  • Even if reelected, the mayor’s repeated denial despite disappearances and a burned body strains credibility. — Sean Fennessey
  • Jackie’s arrival fuels the boys’ risky sailing trip; a teen-only story might better explore rivalries and attraction. Boat-sex logistics remain doubtful.
  • Jaws 2’s financial success despite ordinary quality, rather than Jaws or Star Wars themselves, is blamed for ending New Hollywood and entrenching sequel economics.
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1:04:55

Casting What-Ifs

Scheider’s Deer Hunter departure; Ricky Schroder replaced as Sean; Dreyfuss return discussion

Scheider’s Deer Hunter departure; Ricky Schroder replaced as Sean; Dreyfuss return discussion

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  • Scheider’s departure from The Deer Hunter reportedly forced him into Jaws 2 under his Universal obligation; his fit for De Niro’s role is debated. Salary, points and a reportedly staged breakdown are discussed.
  • Ricky Schroder was replaced as Sean after the director change. — Bill Simmons
  • Dreyfuss’s proposed return becomes a joke about the novel’s affair; the affair is identified as novel material, not this film’s plot. — Bill Simmons
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1:08:22

The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

Joseph Mascolo; Jeffrey Kramer

Joseph Mascolo; Jeffrey Kramer

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1:08:56

The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance

Keith Gordon

Keith Gordon

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1:09:33

I Used to Fuck Guys Like You in Prison Award for Craziest Quote

“Tits like a sparrow.”

“Tits like a sparrow.”

Flex pick · Craig Horlbeck

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  • “Tits like a sparrow” is unexpectedly crude in this otherwise PG movie. — Craig Horlbeck
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1:12:39

Apex Mountain

Child cast except Keith Gordon; water-skiing murders; water skiing (disputed)

Child cast except Keith Gordon; water-skiing murders; water skiing (disputed)

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1:15:10

Cruise or Hanks?

Cruise

Cruise

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  • Young Cruise as Mike is proposed, then challenged because the category should recast Brody; Hanks is the conventional Brody choice.
  • Cruise becomes favored for Brody’s energy, running and unintentionally funny drunkenness, despite an objection to his drunk acting.
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1:16:40

Scorsese or Spielberg?

Spielberg

Spielberg

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1:16:58

What role would Philip Seymour Hoffman play?

Teenager; Deputy Hendricks; Freddy

Teenager; Deputy Hendricks; Freddy

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  • An early-career Hoffman as a teenager; deputy Hendricks; Freddy. — Bill Simmons
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1:22:02

Is This Movie Better With…?

Samuel L. Jackson on civic politics; Doris Burke on the climax

Samuel L. Jackson on civic politics; Doris Burke on the climax

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  • Samuel L. Jackson reacting to the mayor’s reelection.
  • Doris Burke narrating Brody’s final shark taunts.
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1:23:18

Just One Oscar

John Williams

John Williams

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  • John Williams.
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1:28:59

What Piece of Memorabilia Would You Want From This Movie?

Gasoline can; Man of the Year trophy; barrel planter

Gasoline can; Man of the Year trophy; barrel planter

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  • Gasoline can; Brody’s Man of the Year trophy; yellow barrel planter. — Bill Simmons
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1:29:28

The Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson

Trust the returning hero’s warning

Trust the returning hero’s warning

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  • Trust the hero who correctly warned of the previous shark.
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1:30:02

Best Double Feature

Jaws; Jaws: The Revenge
Jaws 2
Jaws
Jaws: The Revenge
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1:32:08

Who Won the Movie?

Roy Scheider; Universal; Jeannot Szwarc

Roy Scheider; Universal; Jeannot Szwarc

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  • Two explicit Roy Scheider choices; Universal is a separate choice.
  • Jeannot Szwarc is defended for rescuing the production, while others dismiss his subsequent career impact.
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1:32:45

Producer review

A good standalone shark slasher constrained by the original’s reputation

A good standalone shark slasher constrained by the original’s reputation

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  • A good shark slasher in isolation; the original’s exceptional reputation may have constrained what otherwise could have become a long slasher franchise. — Craig Horlbeck
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The sequel’s famous water tagline is praised as genius.
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A slow first hour gives way to excellent shark kills; the movie combines teen slasher, traumatized hero, beach hangout and shark story, anticipating the coming slasher boom.
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Brody’s investigation and the mayor’s denial add detective and political-breakdown strands; the setting blends Long Island, Martha’s Vineyard and Florida.
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Brody’s drinking, smoking and appearance lead to jokes about his company; Scheider’s reportedly unhappy production attitude nevertheless suits a compelling performance.
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The recurring Scheider films lead to a playful summer-of-Scheider label and possible future Sorcerer or All That Jazz coverage; a Sorcerer Blu-ray interview is discussed.
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Jaws 2 is placed in the late-seventies sequel boom: commercial recycling often lost directors or stars, although Empire and Godfather II prove sequels need not be inferior. Producers reportedly joined because Universal would proceed anyway.
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A childhood theater memory emphasizes fear, the helicopter and Marge’s disappearance; HBO ubiquity and the sailing sequence make it easy to rewatch despite reviews.
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Eddie and Tina’s sexual banter prompts jokes about cramped boat logistics and bruises.
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The 1983 sequel lineup is criticized, with a dissent defending Psycho II; Porky’s II basketball staging and Teen Wolf Too are discussed.
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Jaws: The Revenge is defended as a household favorite and its plot recounted, amid objections to its quality and Jaws 3’s 3D effects; Lorraine Gary’s franchise presence and Universal connection arise.
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Other sea-creature films and Dangerous Animals demonstrate the enduring format; Jaws 2 and Halloween II trade the originals’ cinematic suspense for more kills.
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Jeannot Szwarc’s difficult name prompts pronunciation jokes and a surname-spelling exchange; Scheider reportedly disliked him.
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Listener feedback about cocaine discussion in After Hours leads to jokes about a future Casablanca recording.
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Wilkes’s later Angel role and surprise success are discussed.
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Limited late-seventies entertainment explains enthusiasm for sequels; the 1981 baseball strike illustrates the perceived void.
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An Inside the NBA-style movie breakdown is imagined, including era comparisons and a diagram of the gasoline accident.
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American Psycho and Inception reality-versus-fantasy digression; possible future coverage is discussed.
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A youthful helmetless-motorcycle crash is contrasted with increasing fear in adulthood.
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After Hours is praised for tight, funny, modestly scaled filmmaking and a culture unusually welcoming to strangers.
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A recent door-kicking prank unsettled a participant; the group returns to praise for After Hours.
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Late-night New York train mishaps and Linda Fiorentino’s intimidating allure extend the After Hours discussion.
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