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Roger Ebert’s review is discussed: 4 stars
In the discussion (2)
- The hosts report Ebert awarded four stars
- They discuss his praise of the film as accomplished entertainment
Dam chase versus the opening 24 minutes
In the discussion (13)
- Opening interrogation
- Bus fight and bus/train crash
- Marshals taking over the investigation
- Dam pursuit and jump
- Copeland’s capture
- St. Patrick’s Day chase
- Kimble calling Gerard from Sykes’s apartment
- Subway fight
- Cardiology-conference confrontation
- Final Kimble/Gerard exchange
- Mallory favors the dam chase
- Chris favors the opening 24 minutes and 20 seconds
- Bill favors the opening crash material; the definition of a single scene is debated
Chicago, Ford, Jones and the ensemble
In the discussion (12)
- Chicago as a filming location
- Seven-month shoot-to-release turnaround
- Helen’s affection for Richard
- Corporate-pharmaceutical villainy
- Tommy Lee Jones’s improvised lines
- Supporting cast, including Joe Pantoliano, Jane Lynch and Julianne Moore
- Bearded versus clean-shaven Harrison Ford is debated
- Nichols’s early villain cues
- James Newton Howard’s score
- Keeping Cosmo alive
- Sela Ward
- Kimble’s acts of kindness
Mr. Johnson’s egg sandwich
In the discussion (1)
- Mr. Johnson’s egg sandwich is the clear pick
The dam; parade also mentioned
In the discussion (2)
- The dam is chosen as the strongest location
- The parade is an alternative
Parade; Kimble entering a dark tunnel
In the discussion (2)
- Chris chooses the parade
- Another pick is Kimble walking into the dark tunnel
Mallory proposes brief Helen flashbacks
In the discussion (2)
- Mallory says yes to the category
- She proposes recurring brief flashbacks of Richard and Helen that preserve the film’s pace
Charles Nichols; Sykes and the defense attorney also considered
In the discussion (6)
- Nichols’s failure to neutralize Kimble
- Nichols’s denial of knowing a colleague
- Pathology approvals dated after Lentz’s death
- The implausible no-side-effects claim
- Sykes killing the wrong person and failing again
- The defense attorney is nominated; his shortcomings are deferred
The conspiracy’s murder plan
In the discussion (2)
- Killing Kimble is questioned when professional sabotage or framing might suffice
- The killer’s connection to the company is too conspicuous
Defense failures, disguise logic and sequels
In the discussion (11)
- Kimble’s legal defense
- Forensic/DNA handling is criticized as dated
- Failure to show Kimble testifying
- Slow parallel prosthetics investigations
- Oversized opening credits
- Joe Pantoliano’s wig
- Pre-CGI concealment of the actor’s arm
- U.S. Marshals and later adaptations
- Removal of Julianne Moore’s romantic subplot is debated and defended
- People failing to recognize Ford’s distinctive face
- The final Nichols/Kimble fight
Keep The Fugitive
In the discussion (2)
- The existing title is unanimously defended
- A one-arm pun is floated as a joke
Ponytail, tunnel exchange and donut order
In the discussion (3)
- The advice about Newman’s ponytail
- Kimble’s innocence protest and Gerard’s response in the tunnel
- Gerard’s coffee-and-donut order
Nolte, Baldwin, Hackman, Voight and Richard Jordan
In the discussion (5)
- Walter Hill’s proposed Nick Nolte version
- Alec Baldwin described as an early choice
- Gene Hackman and Jon Voight considered for Gerard
- Richard Jordan’s illness and replacement
- Reshooting the party scene and Ford’s beard differences
Harrison Ford’s interrogation performance — disputed
In the discussion (4)
- Chris nominates Ford in the interrogation
- Bill supports the choice
- Mallory objects
- The group clarifies that overacting is an admired quality on this podcast
Dr. Richard Kimble
In the discussion (1)
- Ford’s muscular physique is judged unusually impressive for the surgeon character
Ron Dean; honorable mentions for the ensemble
In the discussion (3)
- Ron Dean is selected
- Daniel Roebuck is an honorable mention
- Joseph Kosala is identified as the other interrogating officer
Copeland; Mr. Johnson and Nichols also considered
In the discussion (3)
- Copeland the convict is favored
- Mr. Johnson is another candidate
- Charles Nichols is rejected as too prominent
Ewan McGregor, Jake Gyllenhaal and others
In the discussion (7)
- Ewan McGregor in a London version
- Michael B. Jordan and Ryan Reynolds proposed, with objections
- Scarlett Johansson proposed
- Timothée Chalamet as a young prodigy is joked about
- Jake Gyllenhaal receives support
- Chris Rock as a 1993 marshal sidekick
- Pre-Taken Liam Neeson as Nichols
Ford’s injury, the real train crash and Chicago filming
In the discussion (6)
- Ford’s injured knee and incorporated limp
- Six screenwriters and 25 drafts reported
- A real train crash with a single practical attempt
- North Carolina railroad location
- Chicago locations and the actual 1993 parade
- Cold conditions during parade filming
Tommy Lee Jones and Andrew Davis: yes
In the discussion (12)
- Harrison Ford: no
- Ford playing Desmondo: yes as a joke
- Ford’s doctor roles compared with Frantic
- Tommy Lee Jones: yes
- Joe Pantoliano: disagreement; The Sopranos favored instead
- Pantoliano’s bad wigs: no
- One-armed killers: yes
- Andrew Davis: yes
- Dutch men named Chuck: raised without a clear verdict
- Chicago movies: disputed, with Ferris Bueller, Blues Brothers, Thief and The Dark Knight mentioned
- Fugitives: O.J. Simpson offered instead
- Characters named Cosmo: a strong year
Craig Horlbeck calls it the number-one dad movie
In the discussion (2)
- Craig says he loves the movie and calls it the number-one dad movie — Craig Horlbeck
- He imagines appreciating it even more as a father — Craig Horlbeck
Disguise, defense attorney and conspiracy logic
In the discussion (18)
- Craig questions Sykes’s security role and corporate fishing trips
- Chris questions Kimble’s minimal disguise
- Stolen clothes fitting Kimble is debated
- Mallory questions the fundraiser’s swimsuit show
- Kimble fails to request counsel promptly
- Craig questions water falling on the gun
- Nichols’s conference patter is missing
- Mallory challenges the defense’s handling of Helen’s call and circumstantial evidence
- Shaving a large beard with a disposable razor
- Craig questions Kimble’s janitor performance
- Gerard’s shooting choices in the courthouse
- Nichols’s incriminating photos
- A rollerblading nurse
- Instant train-audio identification
- Mallory corrects the earlier podcast’s too-handsome Jon Hamm objection
- Craig asks why Kimble does not take the evidence straight to Gerard
- Kimble helping patients is defended
- Cosmo’s implausibly minor head wound
Untouchable versus Nichols or prison-doctor series
In the discussion (3)
- Craig favors leaving the movie alone
- A Breaking Bad-style Nichols origin series
- A prison-doctor alternate path for Kimble
Kill Sykes; rethink the one-arm story; defend the marriage
In the discussion (5)
- The category is initially almost skipped but is then completed
- Mallory argues Nichols should have Sykes killed
- Chris argues Kimble’s one-armed-man account sounds incriminating
- Craig has no prepared take
- Bill proposes an attraction-based defense argument
Byron Mayo, Wayne Jenkins and Harling Mays
In the discussion (3)
- Byron Mayo inserted into the hospital encounter
- Wayne Jenkins as a marshal
- Harling Mays treating Kimble after the dam
Skipped: Tommy Lee Jones already won
In the discussion (1)
- The category is passed over because Jones already received an Oscar for the film
Escape plan, Kimble’s fame, the cat and alternate futures
In the discussion (12)
- Effectiveness of the fake seizure escape
- Craig asks how famous Kimble would become
- How much cash Nichols gives Kimble
- Mallory asks what happened to the Kimble family cat
- Gerard as an NFL coach
- Craig asks why the river cannot be dyed blue
- A shared Chicago movie universe
- Whether faster emergency dispatch could have saved Helen
- The logic of the incriminating call
- Kimble and the woman who offers him a ride
- A twist making Kimble guilty after all
- How quickly Sykes would be caught through social media
The Package / Under Siege / Presumed Innocent / Enemy of the State
In the discussion (4)
- The Package
- Under Siege
- Presumed Innocent is suggested
- Enemy of the State
Celebrity, medicine or private investigation
In the discussion (6)
- Kimble becomes a celebrity bachelor
- Kimble reconnects with Dr. Eastman
- Loss of faith leads Kimble to private investigation
- Courtside recognition
- A new home with the surviving cat
- Devlin McGregor’s liability and the drug’s future are debated
Jacket, tissue slide, cash, prosthetic arm and clothing
In the discussion (7)
- Green jacket
- Liver tissue sample / pathology slide
- Nichols’s cash
- Prosthetic arm
- Cook County ID
- Nichols’s tennis pullover and Fila tracksuit
- Newman’s ponytail is jokingly declined
Get a capable lawyer; kindness while on the run
In the discussion (3)
- Get a lawyer immediately and avoid Walter
- Hiding in plain sight
- Keep helping others even while on the run
Tommy Lee Jones / Harrison Ford
In the discussion (4)
- Bill and Chris choose Tommy Lee Jones
- Craig and Mallory choose Harrison Ford
- The hosts explicitly call it a stalemate
- Audience shouts are mixed and are not a measurable fan vote
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