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Apollo 13 (1995)

Directed by Ron Howard · Drama

140 minutes

Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

Tom Hanks Commander Jim Lovell
Bill Paxton Lunar Module Pilot Fred Haise
Kevin Bacon backup Command Module Pilot Jack Swigert
Gary Sinise prime Command Module Pilot Ken Mattingly
Mark Wheeler Apollo 11 Commander Neil Armstrong
Larry Williams Apollo 11 Lunar Module Pilot Buzz Aldrin
David Andrews Apollo 12 Commander Pete Conrad
Ben Marley Apollo 13 backup Commander John Young
Brett Cullen capsule communicator (CAPCOM) 1 "Andy" (a composite astronaut
Ned Vaughn CAPCOM 2 (a composite astronaut)
Ed Harris White Team Flight Director Gene Kranz .
Chris Ellis Director of Flight Crew Operations Deke Slayton
Joe Spano NASA Director
Marc McClure Black Team Flight Director Glynn Lunney
Clint Howard White Team Electrical
Ray McKinnon White Team Flight Dynamics Officer (FIDO) Jerry Bostick
Todd Louiso White Team Flight Activities Officer (FAO)
Gabriel Jarret White Team Guidance
Andy Milder White Team Guidance Officer (GUIDO)
Jim Meskimen White Team Telemetry
Loren Dean EECOM John Aaron
Christian Clemenson Flight Surgeon Dr. Charles Berry
Carl Gabriel Yorke SIM (Simulator) 1
Xander Berkeley Henry Hurt
Endre Hules Günter Wendt
Kathleen Quinlan Marilyn Gerlach Lovell
Mary Kate Schellhardt Barbara Lovell
Max Elliott Slade James "Jay" Lovell
Emily Ann Lloyd Susan Lovell
Miko Hughes Jeffrey Lovell
Rance Howard (Ron Howard's father) the Lovell family minister
Tracy Reiner Mary Haise
Michele Little Jane Conrad
Jim Lovell appears Captain Leland Kirkemo of the recovery ship USS Iwo Jima ; Howard had intended to make him an admiral
Jeffrey Kluger appears a television reporter.
Horror film director Roger Corman , a mentor of Howard, appears a congressman being given a VIP tour by Lovell of the Vehicle Assembly Building
Cheryl Howard (Ron Howard's wife) and Bryce Dallas Howard (Ron Howard's eldest daughter) uncredited background performers in the scene where the astronauts wave goodbye to their families.

Everything from the episode

In the order the hosts got to it. Open a row for the discussion.

7:18

Casting What-Ifs

Costner and Travolta for Lovell; Pitt and Kilmer for Swigert

Costner and Travolta for Lovell; Pitt and Kilmer for Swigert

In the discussion (8)
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10:40

Roger Ebert's review

In the discussion (3)
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  • The panel reports Ebert’s four-star rating — Bill Simmons
  • They discuss his praise for technical clarity and extraordinary work under pressure — Bill Simmons
  • They discuss his sense that reducing space ambitions cost America part of its vision — Bill Simmons
36:04

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

Trade Hanks’s earlier Oscars for his Apollo 13 performance

Trade Hanks’s earlier Oscars for his Apollo 13 performance

In the discussion (6)
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44:02

Most Rewatchable Scene

Reentry and the CO2-filter solution divide favorite and most-rewatchable choices

Reentry and the CO2-filter solution divide favorite and most-rewatchable choices

In the discussion (15)
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  • Hanks watching Armstrong land is nominated
  • Jim’s explanation of the Apollo 1 fire to his son pays off later
  • Mattingly being removed from the mission is nominated
  • Swigert’s failed simulator attempt and retry are nominated
  • The launch and Harris’s introduction build excitement
  • Docking gives the rookie a success
  • The oxygen leak and sudden silence establish the crisis
  • Clint Howard’s explanation sets the stakes
  • The loss of the moon and the astronauts’ argument are discussed
  • The improvised CO2 filter initially gets broad agreement
  • The manual burn with Earth in the window is nominated
  • Mattingly restoring power is nominated
  • Reentry’s extended wait and the control-room celebration are praised
  • Final choices distinguish a favorite CO2 sequence from the most-rewatchable reentry
  • Lovell giving Swigert the pilot seat completes his confidence arc
44:57

Todd Parker Award for Best Character Entrance

Ed Harris entering mission control

Ed Harris entering mission control

In the discussion (2)
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  • The film waits roughly thirty minutes before introducing Harris — Bill Simmons
  • His cigarette and immediate command of the room are praised — Bill Simmons
51:35

The most 1995 thing

The overwhelmingly white cast

The overwhelmingly white cast

In the discussion (3)
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  • Opening graphics and Hanks’s period look are alternatives — Bill Simmons
  • The panel argues a modern production would notice the near-exclusively white speaking cast — Bill Simmons
  • The lone Black orderly and his treatment are criticized — Bill Simmons
52:24

Gandolfini Butter on My Ass So It Pops in My Mouth Award

Gene’s white vest, Lovell declining to look at the moon and the man left behind

Gene’s white vest, Lovell declining to look at the moon and the man left behind

In the discussion (4)
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  • Amanda enjoys the mission vest and Harris’s gestures with it
  • Lovell’s inscrutable hesitation to look at Mount Marilyn is admired
  • Mattingly’s left-behind role is compared with Ralph Cox in Miracle and Rudy
  • The prompt is explicitly explained as something you simply enjoy
54:40

What’s Aged the Best?

Houston, we have a problem; the score; and collective problem-solving

Houston, we have a problem; the score; and collective problem-solving

In the discussion (13)
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  • The famous line’s cleaned-up wording and lasting use in sports are discussed
  • The film’s use of the number thirteen leads to a superstition debate
  • Paxton’s rhinoceros line is enjoyed and its Busey/Point Break connection is reported
  • James Horner’s score and Annie Lennox’s vocals are praised
  • Supportive spouses are discussed
  • Harris’s hairpiece and military haircuts are enjoyed
  • The Hanks–Sinise reunion and Clint Howard’s role are praised
  • Walter Cronkite’s archival reactions give history emotional weight
  • Astronaut longevity is discussed with reported fitness and continuing medical monitoring, not verified health conclusions
  • Slingshotting around the moon is admired as comprehensible science
  • Lovell’s polo shirts are praised
  • Switching equipment on in the right order remains relatable
  • Gathering to watch a non-sports world event is missed
1:03:17

The Great Shot Gordo Award for Most Cinematic Shot

The wide shot of the control-room celebration

The wide shot of the control-room celebration

In the discussion (3)
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  • The panel agrees on the shot — Bill Simmons
  • The angled camera position captures the whole room erupting — Bill Simmons
  • The set is reported as purpose-built instead of using NASA’s offered room — Bill Simmons
1:03:47

The Big Kahuna Burger Award for Best Use of Food and Drink

Jell-O floating in space, with zero-gravity vomit as an inversion

Jell-O floating in space, with zero-gravity vomit as an inversion

In the discussion (4)
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  • The playful food during the televised broadcast is nominated — Bill Simmons
  • Food avoidance and water rationing are discussed — Bill Simmons
  • The vomit is suggested as a striking effects showcase — Bill Simmons
  • A production anecdote describes a crew member vomiting onto Paxton during a zero-gravity flight — Bill Simmons
1:05:00

The Slow Ride / Kid Cudi – Pursuit of Happiness Award for Best Needle Drop

Spirit in the Sky

Spirit in the Sky

In the discussion (1)
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  • The song is selected without a competing nomination — Bill Simmons
1:05:00

Is There a Better Title for This Movie?

Keep Apollo 13

Keep Apollo 13

In the discussion (2)
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  • The simple title is preferred
  • Houston, We Have a Problem would preempt the line and feels like modern search-driven titling
1:05:32

The Billy Batts / Jack Woltz Award for Biting, Scalable Insult

Flight surgeon horseshit

Flight surgeon horseshit

Flex pick · Amanda Dobbins

In the discussion (2)
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  • Amanda chooses Lovell’s complaint to Deke — Amanda Dobbins
  • She explains how the phrase applies to school forms, travel bureaucracy and arbitrary administrative rules — Amanda Dobbins
1:06:39

The Butch’s Girlfriend Award for the Weakest Link in the Film

The older children, with disagreement about the ending

The older children, with disagreement about the ending

In the discussion (8)
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  • Rob and another participant choose the teenagers
  • The younger child’s door question is defended
  • The older son’s close-ups lack the emotional force of Hanks’s
  • Reducing the number of children is proposed
  • The grandmother is criticized by one speaker and warmly defended by others
  • Bill wants a homecoming reunion with Sinise and Harris
  • Others defend ending early and the real Jim Lovell cameo
  • The children remain the leading weak-link choice
1:09:26

What’s Aged the Worst?

The portrayal of Jack Swigert as underprepared

The portrayal of Jack Swigert as underprepared

In the discussion (9)
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  • The repeated courting of thirteen is questioned — Bill Simmons
  • Fade-to-black transitions feel dated — Bill Simmons
  • Marilyn’s hair and the oldest daughter’s crying are criticized — Bill Simmons
  • The panel says real Swigert was an experienced backup rather than the risky rookie depicted — Bill Simmons
  • The dramatic distortion is discussed as unfair to his family — Bill Simmons
  • Heat-shield concerns are raised in comparison with contemporary missions — Bill Simmons
  • Some small launch effects show their age — Bill Simmons
  • The teenage daughter’s blame of Paul for the Beatles breakup is criticized — Bill Simmons
  • The panel compares difficult teenage-daughter roles with Moneyball, Homeland and The Americans — Bill Simmons
1:12:58

The Ruffalo / Hanna / Rubinek / Partridge Overacting Award

Henry the press officer

Henry the press officer

In the discussion (3)
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  • Lovell’s flight-surgeon outburst is proposed but defended as appropriate — Amanda Dobbins
  • The press officer is criticized for leaning too hard into antagonism and concern for Nixon — Amanda Dobbins
  • The hosts do not identify the actor by name — Amanda Dobbins
1:13:18

The Estelle Reiner “I’ll Have What She’s Having” Award for Best Contribution with Two or Fewer Lines

Jean Speegle Howard as Jim’s mother

Jean Speegle Howard as Jim’s mother

Flex pick · Rob Mahoney

In the discussion (5)
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  • Rob defends the grandmother’s washing-machine line
  • The reversal of a frightened child being reassured by the grandmother moves him
  • Her casting as the director’s mother fits the Estelle Reiner namesake
  • She reportedly removed dentures to appear older
  • Other Howard family appearances are discussed
1:15:04

The Amanda Dobbins Award for Best Piece of Real Estate

Mount Marilyn on the moon

Mount Marilyn on the moon

In the discussion (3)
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  • Amanda chooses a lunar landmark named for a loved one
  • She distinguishes this from buying a name in a star directory
  • The panel recalls Hopper’s house as their Speed real-estate choice
1:15:58

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

America needs a rival to recover its ambition

America needs a rival to recover its ambition

In the discussion (5)
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  • A speaker argues the end of the Soviet rivalry left American ambition unfocused
  • Bill provocatively offers respect for Musk’s space ambitions; the others question the claim
  • They debate the appeal and purpose of Mars exploration
  • Amanda refers back to her earlier Hanks/Oscar take
  • Political and current-event comments remain attributed episode opinions
1:20:51

The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

Todd Louiso

Todd Louiso

In the discussion (6)
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1:22:13

The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance

Walter Cronkite

Walter Cronkite

In the discussion (3)
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1:23:06

Recasting Couch

Gene Hackman, Tom Cruise, Julianne Moore and a Flight crossover

Gene Hackman, Tom Cruise, Julianne Moore and a Flight crossover

In the discussion (6)
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  • Hackman is considered for Gene but Harris’s performance is defended
  • Pitt is considered as a higher-star-power Swigert without displacing Hanks
  • Cruise as Swigert would be fun, though his crisis of confidence might be hard to believe
  • Moore is imagined delivering Marilyn’s defiant line
  • Bill proposes Denzel’s troubled pilot from Flight in the Swigert part
  • These are hypothetical recasts, distinct from reported casting history
1:25:34

Todd Parker Award for Best Character Entrance

Buzz and Neil arriving at the Lovell home

Buzz and Neil arriving at the Lovell home

Flex pick · Craig Horlbeck

In the discussion (3)
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1:26:17

Half-Assed Internet Research

Zero-gravity filming, practical sets and the origins of Failure Is Not an Option

Zero-gravity filming, practical sets and the origins of Failure Is Not an Option

In the discussion (10)
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  • Spielberg is credited with suggesting parabolic-flight filming — Bill Simmons
  • The actors filmed in brief zero-gravity intervals during long flights — Bill Simmons
  • Full-size modules and a chilled set are reported — Bill Simmons
  • The splashdown was reportedly filmed in a Universal lot lake — Bill Simmons
  • The USS New Orleans substituted for the unavailable Iwo Jima — Bill Simmons
  • Bacon praises Hanks’s intensive astronaut training — Bill Simmons
  • Failure Is Not an Option is reported as wording created for the movie, later used by Kranz as a book title — Bill Simmons
  • Mission-control leadership is said to have been consolidated, leaving Glynn Lunney out; the transcript renders the name imperfectly — Bill Simmons
  • Marilyn’s lost ring is said to have been recovered in real life — Bill Simmons
  • Bacon’s repeated Jack/Jackie character names are listed across seven productions — Bill Simmons
1:30:37

Apex Mountain

Hanks’s mid-1990s summit, Quinlan’s nomination and Houston’s championship era

Hanks’s mid-1990s summit, Quinlan’s nomination and Houston’s championship era

In the discussion (11)
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  • Hanks’s Forrest Gump–Apollo 13–Toy Story period is a leading choice
  • Later freedom to direct or take unusual roles is offered as another measure of Hanks’s power
  • Howard’s A Beautiful Mind acclaim is preferred
  • Sinise’s Forrest Gump–Apollo 13 period is accepted
  • Bacon’s Footloose breakthrough is preferred
  • Houston’s back-to-back Rockets titles alongside the film are favored over the Beyoncé-birth alternative
  • Harris’s peak is placed somewhere between this and The Truman Show
  • Quinlan’s Oscar nomination supports her apex
  • Grazer is considered without a firm conclusion
  • Space movies are rejected because of Star Wars and 2001
  • American idealism and ingenuity are debated in relation to 1970 versus 1995
1:35:08

Cruise or Hanks?

Hanks

Hanks

In the discussion (2)
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1:35:24

The most GIFable moment

Ed Harris’s collapse and double thumbs-up

Ed Harris’s collapse and double thumbs-up

In the discussion (4)
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  • Harris’s relieved collapse is nominated
  • The subsequent double thumbs-up is suggested as an even better GIF
  • Hanks delivering Houston, We Have a Problem is nominated
  • Sinise’s quiet fist pump is an alternative
1:36:15

The Sean Penn “I Brought My Own Pack” Award for Excellence in On-Screen Smoking

Ed Harris

Ed Harris

In the discussion (3)
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  • Harris’s committed cigarette performance is honored — Bill Simmons
  • The control-room pipes and closing cigars are appreciated — Bill Simmons
  • A related made-hotter-by-smoking prompt is mentioned as an alternative under consideration — Bill Simmons
1:36:40

Picking Nits

Not enough smoking, children watching reentry and floor salad

Not enough smoking, children watching reentry and floor salad

In the discussion (5)
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  • The panel thinks a 1970 control room and home would have contained more smoking
  • Changed dialogue and astronauts arguing are acknowledged as dramatic liberties
  • Allowing very young children to watch potentially fatal reentry is questioned
  • Mary Haise is given little to do
  • Women are seen putting spilled salad back into its bowl
1:39:00

Sequel, Prequel, Limited Series, or All-Black Remake

Untouchable

Untouchable

In the discussion (1)
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  • The film is declared untouchable for a remake or expanded adaptation
1:39:14

Is This Movie Better With…?

Wayne Jenkins as an astronaut

Wayne Jenkins as an astronaut

In the discussion (2)
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1:39:41

Just One Oscar

Best Picture, with Hanks and adapted screenplay also supported

Best Picture, with Hanks and adapted screenplay also supported

In the discussion (4)
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  • Amanda initially favors Hanks, consistent with her hottest take
  • Best Picture is a leading choice
  • Adapted screenplay is praised for turning technical procedures into drama
  • The conversation settles toward Best Picture over Braveheart
1:40:50

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Would Mattingly’s presence change the accident, and would Cameron make a better film?

Would Mattingly’s presence change the accident, and would Cameron make a better film?

In the discussion (6)
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  • Does this have an unusually high number of white speaking roles?
  • Would the malfunction still happen with Mattingly instead of Swigert?
  • Would Mattingly have noticed a warning before stirring the tanks?
  • Which astronaut is best at the job?
  • James Cameron directing would change the spacecraft emphasis, exposition and mission-control balance
  • The panel concludes Howard was well suited to the historical and ensemble requirements
1:43:37

Best Double Feature

First Man, Gravity, The Martian and Rocky IV
In the discussion (4)
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  • First Man is proposed as a contrasting portrait of ambition, marriage and reaching the moon
  • Gravity is another double-feature choice
  • The Martian is chosen for another problem-solving survival story
  • Craig adds Rocky IV for the Cold War/American-competition theme
1:45:36

What Piece of Memorabilia Would You Want From This Movie?

The white vest, gold flight jacket, flight suits and Hanks’s astronaut suit

The white vest, gold flight jacket, flight suits and Hanks’s astronaut suit

In the discussion (4)
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  • The white vest returns as a favorite — Bill Simmons
  • The gold jacket and rescued astronauts’ suits are alternatives — Bill Simmons
  • Hanks’s screen-worn astronaut suit is considered the most valuable object — Bill Simmons
  • Sinise’s sleeveless shirt and beer bottle are smaller-scale ideas — Bill Simmons
1:46:56

The Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson

Work the problem

Work the problem

In the discussion (2)
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  • Work the problem is the shared practical lesson — Rob Mahoney
  • A disaster can become a finest hour if the crucial final step succeeds — Rob Mahoney
1:47:48

Who Won the Movie?

Tom Hanks

Tom Hanks

In the discussion (1)
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  • “Hanks” is repeated three times as the answer (the transcript renders it as “Thanks”); individual voices are not separated — Craig Horlbeck
1:47:55

Producer review

Craig finds Apollo 13 warmer and more effective than on previous watches

Craig finds Apollo 13 warmer and more effective than on previous watches

In the discussion (5)
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More from the conversation

Bill Simmons introduces Amanda Dobbins and Rob Mahoney; Apollo 13 is identified as Amanda’s long-standing episode request.
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Amanda and Rob connect the film to their early moviegoing; Rob recalls growing up in Texas and attending space camp. The panel discusses practical effects, team problem-solving and cable rewatchability.
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Hanks’s star-making run, his history interests, Cruise comparisons and the film’s understated American ambition are discussed. Comments on Artemis and recent events are recorded as claims made in this dated episode, not independently verified news.
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Craig is directly invited into the Hanks-versus-Cruise discussion and responds.
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Ron Howard’s restraint, preparation of the control-room ensemble, historical fidelity and filmography are discussed alongside a blind Cruise movie marathon.
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Kevin Bacon’s range and Hall of Fame case, Paxton’s popularity, Harris and Sinise’s restrained acting, and Quinlan’s chemistry and performance as Marilyn Lovell are discussed.
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The panel reports the Lost Moon screenplay origins, Oscar nominations and losses, and debates voter fatigue after Hanks’s consecutive wins.
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Craig is directly asked for his favorite Hanks performance and chooses Sleepless in Seattle.
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The closing conversation compares Hanks’s warmth with Gosling, Project Hail Mary, The Martian and contemporary filmmaking, then debates Damon versus DiCaprio and Ocean’s sequels. These are episode opinions; the new titles and contemporary claims are not independently verified metadata.
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Craig Horlbeck is thanked by name in the sign-off. The spoken acknowledgement does not itself replace the official feed’s producer credit.
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