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Rocky The Rewatchables
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What’s Aged the Worst?

Paulie; empty fight crowd; Marie advice; rejected points

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Approx. transcript time · 01:12:07Read transcript
  • Paulie’s abuse of his sister and lack of consequences age poorly.
  • The Chuck Wepner story is called the worst, without further explanation here.
  • The visibly empty fight audience prompts wishes for a restoration adding CGI spectators.
  • The Steadicam inventor declining profit points is another choice.
  • Rocky telling twelve-year-old Marie that bad language will lead to prostitution is criticized.
  • Marie later becoming a Rocky Balboa love interest makes the earlier interaction uncomfortable in retrospect.
  • White doo-wop groups are added.
  • The sequels abandon this conception of Rocky as he becomes smarter and more athletically gifted with age.
Rocky The Rewatchables
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Rocky

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

More Gazzo; Rocky–Apollo romance; Rocky made Philadelphia

In the discussion (7)
Approx. transcript time · 01:15:27Read transcript
  • Gazzo is the most interesting character outside Rocky, Adrian and Apollo; more scenes asserting control or fixing the fight could make the film more interesting. — Chris Ryan
  • The $500 offer appears to promise leverage over Rocky; two more Gazzo scenes could replace two Paulie scenes.
  • The darker original script reportedly had Rocky throwing the fight and a racist Mickey.
  • Rocky and Apollo are called the beginning of the greatest love story, reprising an earlier provocative take. — Van Lathan
  • A deliberately extreme take says Rocky made Philadelphia, otherwise likened to Delaware with attitude, a museum and teams.
  • Others object that Delaware is a state and Philadelphia has actual championship and boxing history.
  • The provocation is defended as an attempt to restore extreme hottest takes.
Rocky The Rewatchables
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Casting What-Ifs

Caan/Reynolds/O’Neal/Redford; Norton; Keitel; Snodgress; Strasberg

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  • United Artists reportedly wanted Redford, Ryan O’Neal, Burt Reynolds or James Caan; this is defended as plausible studio thinking rather than ideal casting.
  • O’Neal is rejected as too handsome and WASPy.
  • Caan as Rocky with Keitel or Cazale as Paulie is imagined.
  • Caan and Reynolds are challenged as too established; the unknown Stallone makes the audience root for the real performer too.
  • Ken Norton reportedly withdrew from Apollo before Carl Weathers took the role.
  • Stallone reportedly wanted Harvey Keitel for Paulie.
  • Carrie Snodgress reportedly left Adrian over money; Cher and Susan Sarandon auditioned, with Sarandon judged too pretty.
  • Lee Strasberg reportedly wanted too much money to play Mickey.
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Recasting Couch

John Cazale as a more likable Paulie; otherwise unchanged

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Approx. transcript time · 01:18:58Read transcript
  • Caan as Rocky with Harvey Keitel or John Cazale as Paulie is imagined, but Caan and Reynolds are considered too established for the unknown-underdog effect.
  • Recasting: initial leave cast alone, then more palatable Paulie considered; John Cazale failed-brother type may repeat roles but charisma would make him likable. Imagined neglected skinny alcoholic and robe-logo hustler.
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Half-Assed Internet Research

Production constraints; fight choreography; poster error; number-one song

In the discussion (8)
Approx. transcript time · 01:23:13Read transcript
  • Duke reportedly received his name only in Rocky II; Bound for Glory and Marathon Man preceded Rocky’s Steadicam use.
  • The ice rink was empty because the production could not afford extras.
  • Meredith used a fake cauliflower ear and a nostril tube to alter his appearance.
  • Young reportedly applied vermouth and wore excess clothing to feel uncomfortable and angry; the meat-locker drinking is recalled.
  • The final fight reportedly began without choreography and had to stop so it could be planned.
  • The wrong trunks on the arena poster were reportedly an actual error incorporated into the scene.
  • A Philadelphia union issue reportedly moved much of the fight filming to Los Angeles.
  • Gonna Fly Now reached number one on the Billboard Hot 100, above the guesses of top ten or seven.
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