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What Lies Beneath

What’s Aged the Best?

Ford’s casting; camera movement; planted payoffs; symbolism; star pairing; Vermont; bathroom danger; Cooper; still-photo anecdote.

In the discussion (10)
Approx. transcript time · 00:48:14Read transcript
  • Casting Harrison Ford as a man who tries to kill his wife after The Fugitive is praised as inspired against-type casting.
  • The camera’s subtle following movement is praised for creating the sense of a ghost watching Claire.
  • The paralytic agent, key, clipping, missing cell service, and hitched boat are praised as planted details that pay off in the climax.
  • The Adamant shop name, pendant design, and Celtic-knot key are described as obvious but effective symbols.
  • Pairing major stars in a polished film, using Vermont as a scary setting, and showing an attractive cellist are praised.
  • Dangerous bathroom scenes and a mysteriously full bathtub are praised as effective fears.
  • Dogs sensing evil is praised, with Cooper cited as intuitive.
  • A participant reports that high-school friend Scott Carino appears as Claire’s late husband in two photographs; friend Jeff Gallo treated the appearance as a highlight of 2000.
  • A participant recounts returning from vacation to find a bathtub filled by a clog and a dripping fixture.
  • A participant recalls being told that the person rendered as “Vanessa Marcel” was very attractive during the friend’s Melrose Place work; the identity rendering remains transcript-uncertain.
In the discussion (4)
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  • The award is given to Harrison Ford, who is reported to be 57 and exceptionally lean and muscular.
  • Norman’s age, laboratory workload, and rainy Vermont life are cited as reasons his body seems implausible.
  • Boating, sailing, drives, sexual activity, and lifelong fitness are offered as defenses.
  • Shirtless Sam Elliott in Landman is described as carved from a tree trunk and compared with Ford’s body at age 57.
In the discussion (4)
Approx. transcript time · 00:56:27Read transcript
  • The neighbors-and-binoculars plot is identified as a Rear Window homage.
  • Claire and Madison’s resemblance is identified as a Vertigo homage.
  • Alan Silvestri’s score is described as a Bernard Herrmann homage.
  • The repeated foot imagery is jokingly called a Tarantino homage.
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Mallory Rubin Award: Did This Movie Need a Better Sex Scene?

Possessed-desk scene praised; more explicit material or a Madison flashback proposed.

In the discussion (6)
Approx. transcript time · 00:56:50Read transcript
  • Pulling away from the couple’s early sexual encounters is defended as adding anticipation.
  • The neighbors’ sounds, Claire’s leg over Norman’s shoulder, and their established-marriage routine are praised as useful glimpses.
  • The possessed desk scene’s lip bite and torn shirt are called nearly perfect.
  • They propose showing Claire masturbating while Norman watches.
  • A Madison flashback is proposed as a contrast that could initially be mistaken for Claire and Norman.
  • Frantic is cited as an earlier Ford film with stronger sexual energy.
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The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

Luke Wilson as Norman; Claire forgiving him; a different murder method; stronger anti-affair film than Fatal Attraction.

In the discussion (5)
Approx. transcript time · 01:07:31Read transcript
  • Luke Wilson is proposed as an interesting Norman whose ordinary attractiveness would create less confidence in him.
  • Claire is imagined forgiving Norman after seeing him sail and reconsidering the benefits of their life.
  • Repeating the exact method used to kill his mistress is called an insulting way for Norman to try to kill Claire.
  • Using cello strings is proposed as a more character-specific hypothetical murder method.
  • The film is called an even stronger warning against affairs than Fatal Attraction because supernatural revenge destroys Norman’s life and kills him.
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Casting What-Ifs

No replacement leads; Ford in The Perfect Storm discussed instead.

In the discussion (3)
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  • The original stars are said to have been specifically wanted, leaving no conventional casting what-if for this movie.
  • The episode reports that Ford turned down The Perfect Storm to make What Lies Beneath.
  • That choice is welcomed because a Boston accent is considered a poor fit for Ford.
In the discussion (6)
Approx. transcript time · 01:12:04Read transcript
  • Joe Morton’s therapist is nominated.
  • Jody is proposed and debated as possibly too substantial because she is effectively the fourth lead.
  • Madison is proposed because the ghost has no spoken lines.
  • Miranda Otto’s Lord of the Rings role makes her recognizable to franchise viewers, while one participant says the reference means nothing to him.
  • A participant reports watching the regular Lord of the Rings trilogy one film per day with Liz’s two brothers.
  • Another participant recommends watching only the extended editions and calls the series one of the three best trilogies.
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Recasting Couch

Directors: De Palma, Fincher, or Lyne. Norman: Richard Gere. Cellist: unresolved.

In the discussion (6)
Approx. transcript time · 01:13:14Read transcript
  • Laura Sangiacomo is proposed for Jody.
  • The director rendered as BDP is proposed for a more sexual version with longer camera moves.
  • David Fincher is proposed, with Panic Room cited as a nearby version of the material.
  • The director rendered as Adrian Line is proposed for a hornier supernatural version.
  • The actor rendered as Richard Gear is proposed as Norman.
  • Kelly Preston is considered and rejected; the discussion cannot settle on a replacement cellist.
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