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Rocky

Cast

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Sylvester Stallone Rocky Balboa
Talia Shire Adrian Pennino
Burt Young Paulie Pennino
Carl Weathers Apollo Creed
Burgess Meredith Mickey Goldmill
Thayer David Miles Jergens
Joe Spinell Tony Gazzo
Bill Baldwin Fight announcer
Al Salvani Cut man
George Memmoli Ice rink attendant
Jodi Letizia Marie
Diana Lewis TV commentator
George O'Hanlon TV commentator
Larry Carroll TV interviewer
Stan Shaw Dipper
Don Sherman Bartender
Billy Sands Club fight announcer
Pedro Lovell Club fighter
DeForest Covan Apollo's corner
Simmy Bow Club corner man
Tony Burton Apollo's trainer
Hank Rolike Apollo corner man
Shirley O'Hara Secretary
Kathleen Parker Paulie's date
Frank Stallone Timekeeper
Jane Marla Robbins Owner of pet shop
Joe Sorbello Bodyguard
Frankie Van Club fight referee
Lou Fillipo Championship fight announcer
Paris Eagle Fighter
Frank Stallone Jr. Streetcorner singer
Robert L. Tangrea Streetcorner singer
Peter Glassberg Streetcorner singer
William E. Ring Streetcorner singer
Joseph C. Giambelluc Streetcorner singer
Joe Frazier Special guest appearance
Stu Nahan Fight commentator
Lavelle Roby Mrs. Creed
Michael Dorn Creed's bodyguard

Rocky | The Rewatchables

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Most Rewatchable Scene

Gonna Fly Now training; fourteenth round

In the discussion (14)
Approx. transcript time · 00:35:12Read transcript
  • Most rewatchable scene begins: Spider Rico opening fight, headbutt, smoky aftermath, comic tax deductions from tiny payouts, then Take You Back. Opening action/theme reassures audience this will eventually be sports film.
  • Opening boxing portrayal described as unflattering, dirty, corrupt, fighters destroying themselves for little pay and awful fans; not criticism of choreography.
  • Opening exploitation pays off by explaining the chance all fighters chase; Creed's opening instead immediately establishes skilled fighter.
  • Three consecutive scene candidates grouped: Apollo bicentennial plan, abusive Gazzo driver exchange and Rocky finally retaliating, Apollo choosing Italian Stallion despite southpaw warning.
  • Jergens' offer and press conference: ham-and-egger humility, asking secretary to return business card as keepsake, greeting Adrian, later admitting TV mockery hurt. Audience already knows future legend he cannot foresee.
  • Mickey asks to manage Rocky, impart knowledge, prevent repeated mistakes; door-opening/closing and angry pride speech, then distant wordless reconciliation praised. Reconciliation suggested as Great Shot Gordo candidate.
  • Gonna Fly Now montage: one-handed pushups, racing boat, second successful stairs climb after earlier failed training; considered among greatest sports scenes. Museum/statue tourism and changing Philadelphia cultural relevance discussed.
  • Trunks painted wrong at arena reveals dispensability; ensuing Adrian speech about going distance and proving not another neighborhood bum praised.
  • Fight entrance candidate: Paulie's robe deal, Apollo Uncle Sam entrance and trash talk, Joe Frazier cameo, Master of Disaster/King of Sting nicknames.
  • First two rounds candidate: thrilling first knockdown, bar reaction, intentionally missing slaps, broken nose and Duke saying Rocky thinks it is a fight rather than show.
  • Fourteenth round named personal most-rewatchable choice: stay-down calls, Rocky rises, Adrian emerges, Apollo's slumped disbelief, body attack paid off from meat training. Repeated two-punch shot noted; Cut Me Mick effective but disgusting.
  • Fight ending candidate: Cut Me Mick, no-rematch exchange, hat question, bell/overhead crowd rush/music, emotional win despite decision, Paulie opens ropes. Empty arena visible on rewatch and some ADR criticized168–169.
  • Final scene discussion: training/Gonna Fly Now preferred by two responses, fourteenth round separately loved; first-date ice rink deserves mention for determination, southpaw story, emerging intimacy and attendant countdown urgency. Apartment encounter described as accosting.
  • The meat-freezer interview is admired for Paulie intruding into the shot and Duke turning toward the sound of the punches; imaginary social-media reactions follow.

The Great Shot Gordo Award for Most Cinematic Shot

Art museum steps; distant reconciliation; first training wide shot

In the discussion (3)
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  • The distant, wordless reconciliation after the argument is suggested.
  • The Steadicam run up the art museum steps is selected; the award is jokingly renamed Great Shot Garrett.
  • The wide Philadelphia shot ending the first failed early-morning training run is another choice.

The most "year the movie came out" thing

White doo-wop singers and benevolent street drunks

In the discussion (1)
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  • Most1976: white doo-wop street singers and benevolent drunks versus contemporary street suffering. Real grimy smoke-filled dive bars challenge romantic nostalgia; recurring accusations everything stinks.

What’s Aged the Best?

Steadicam; music; sports-film influence; training; Shire; ending

In the discussion (14)
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  • Aged best: Steadicam, reportedly third movie using it, stair test with inventor's wife, accepting money rather than points regretted. ASR inventor names inconsistent; verify externally rather than guessing.
  • Aged best: music/soundtrack still used in sporting events.
  • Aged best: actual turtles reportedly kept by Stallone and alive as of last2021 reference; turtle pets criticized as smelly, long-lived, undesirable indoors.
  • Aged best: sports-film form transformed by Rocky, called Marlon Brando of sports movies; dissent someone else might eventually have discovered formula.
  • Digression contrasts real-sport fascination with dynasties and fictional underdogs, aspiration versus inspiration, Moneyball/Cashman example; The Game and Last Dance show dynasty stories work in books/docs; fans hypocritically resent real surprise winners.
  • Aged best race in boxing: tribal allegiances remain acceptable in boxing. Early sports films' white heroes facing Black opponents discussed. Disagreement over conceived Ali premise versus audience's racial reading and sequel wish; Apollo himself deploys race. Stallone's boxing investment illustrated by claimed Roy Jones Jr replacement by Antonio Tarver in Rocky Balboa.
  • Race discussion: Apollo explicitly monetizes audience racial biases; opinion movie itself clean on race versus Rocky III, with Dipper taking Rocky's locker noted.
  • Boxing-gym authenticity: locker taunt and gym stopping for conflict; Van recounts fitness sparring complaint and racial tribalism, followed by commentary stereotype jokes.
  • Aged best: miserable initial5a.m. eggs/run/failed steps with coughing and side pain, setting up later triumphant return.
  • Angry Mickey dialogue praised, including women weaken legs and eat lightning/crap thunder; Burgess Meredith Penguin/Twilight Zone memories.
  • Aged best: inventive meat freezer, gritty1970s Philadelphia/Kensington/Port Richmond and economic despair shared by other cities.
  • Aged best: television Rocky marathons, complaint Rocky II repeats original ending; out-of-nowhere athlete inevitably evokes Rocky.
  • Aged best: Talia Shire in three Best Picture winners in five years; Adrian distinguished from Connie. Godfather family-lying digression.
  • Aged best: Gazzo's driver comedy, Steadicam, and final revised ending. Director anecdote rejected crowd-carrying ending and downcast aisle-walk ending before musical ring reunion saved film. Adrian's subtle vulnerability grounds exaggerated characters; joke Paulie bad brother.
In the discussion (3)
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  • Paulie or the slow Rocky–Adrian courtship are proposed; twenty-five minutes could now be nine.
  • The ice rink is defended, but another response wants the date to end with a kiss there rather than successive apartment invitations and persuasion.
  • Adrian discovers a sexual side of herself and offers to rub Rocky down.

What’s Aged the Worst?

Paulie; empty fight crowd; Marie advice; rejected points

In the discussion (8)
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  • Paulie’s abuse of his sister and lack of consequences age poorly.
  • The Chuck Wepner story is called the worst, without further explanation here.
  • The visibly empty fight audience prompts wishes for a restoration adding CGI spectators.
  • The Steadicam inventor declining profit points is another choice.
  • Rocky telling twelve-year-old Marie that bad language will lead to prostitution is criticized.
  • Marie later becoming a Rocky Balboa love interest makes the earlier interaction uncomfortable in retrospect.
  • White doo-wop groups are added.
  • The sequels abandon this conception of Rocky as he becomes smarter and more athletically gifted with age.

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

More Gazzo; Rocky–Apollo romance; Rocky made Philadelphia

In the discussion (7)
Approx. transcript time · 01:15:27Read transcript
  • Gazzo is the most interesting character outside Rocky, Adrian and Apollo; more scenes asserting control or fixing the fight could make the film more interesting. Chris Ryan
  • The $500 offer appears to promise leverage over Rocky; two more Gazzo scenes could replace two Paulie scenes.
  • The darker original script reportedly had Rocky throwing the fight and a racist Mickey.
  • Rocky and Apollo are called the beginning of the greatest love story, reprising an earlier provocative take. Van Lathan
  • A deliberately extreme take says Rocky made Philadelphia, otherwise likened to Delaware with attitude, a museum and teams.
  • Others object that Delaware is a state and Philadelphia has actual championship and boxing history.
  • The provocation is defended as an attempt to restore extreme hottest takes.

Apex Mountain

Talia Shire; Spider Rico; women removing glasses (qualified); shy girlfriends (qualified)

In the discussion (12)
Approx. transcript time · 01:27:29Read transcript
  • Stallone’s peak is placed at Rocky III and First Blood in 1982, not this film.
  • Removing glasses to reveal a more attractive woman is tentatively an apex; She’s All That is considered, while another response disputes suddenly finding Adrian hot.
  • Talia Shire receives affirmative apex answers; later projects reportedly did not succeed.
  • Shy girlfriends receive a tentative yes.
  • Bull Durham is preferred for abstaining from sex during sports, with disagreement over whether Rocky truly abstains.
  • John Avildsen’s peak may be The Karate Kid, when he had both that and Rocky despite the earlier Oscar.
  • Philadelphia alternatives include 1776, the 1983 Sixers and major football wins; Rocky remains a defining image rather than a settled unique apex.
  • Burt Young’s more tolerable Rocky III character is considered, while Back to School is named his best performance.
  • Spider Rico receives a definite yes.
  • Ice-skating dates face Happy Gilmore and The Cutting Edge alternatives.
  • Rocky movies receive a no.
  • Boxing-film apex is disputed by definition: Raging Bull is judged better and chosen for a desert island, while Rocky is more culturally significant.

Cruise or Hanks?

Cruise; Hanks dissents

In the discussion (1)
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  • Cruise or Hanks Cruise wins explicit democracy with dissent Hanks. Heavyweight plausibility challenged for both, Cruise preparation/weight-change defense.

Sequel, Prequel, Limited Series, or All-Black Remake

Enough Rocky; unknown underdog or female/MMA variation

In the discussion (2)
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  • Sequel/prequel/prestige TV/all-Black cast/untouchable: many versions already done, enough Rocky opinion; speculative planned Creed-universe television after Amazon MGM purchase, uncertainty acknowledged.
  • Future direction: true unknown underdog rather than champion's son, female Rocky idea then rejection in favor original movie; modern cynicism and amateur-record questions, MMA version/Warrior as strongest example. Erotic Adrian's Awakening and hired-to-weaken-legs joke extended, Clubber attraction joke.

Is This Movie Better With…?

Gazzo’s driver; Collinsworth and Romo impressions

In the discussion (1)
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  • Is Movie Better With character roster read; add Gazzo's driver and say better with him, Collinsworth and Romo impressions about Adrian's sexual awakening.

Just One Oscar

Stallone’s screenplay

In the discussion (1)
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  • Just One Oscar: Stallone screenplay.

What Piece of Memorabilia Would You Want From This Movie?

Gloves; sweatshirt; pullovers; posters; Mickey photo

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Approx. transcript time · 01:41:45Read transcript
  • Memorabilia reluctance due smell/hygiene; fight/training gloves, Italian Stallion gray sweatshirt needing fumigation, Mickey training pullovers, gym/Jergens posters, battered young-Mickey photo. Locker/Skid Row and Adrian sex-book jokes.
In the discussion (3)
Approx. transcript time · 01:44:56Read transcript
  • Sylvester Stallone wins emphatically, with a suggestion this might be the greatest movie win ever.
  • Writing and starring as an unknown, then building a long franchise, makes the achievement unusually difficult to repeat.
  • Tarantino, Palminteri, Roberts, Pacino and Welles are discussed as comparisons, with prior visibility limiting several parallels.
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