What’s Aged the Best?
Steadicam; music; sports-film influence; training; Shire; ending
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- Aged best: Steadicam, reportedly third movie using it, stair test with inventor's wife, accepting money rather than points regretted. ASR inventor names inconsistent; verify externally rather than guessing.
- Aged best: music/soundtrack still used in sporting events.
- Aged best: actual turtles reportedly kept by Stallone and alive as of last2021 reference; turtle pets criticized as smelly, long-lived, undesirable indoors.
- Aged best: sports-film form transformed by Rocky, called Marlon Brando of sports movies; dissent someone else might eventually have discovered formula.
- Digression contrasts real-sport fascination with dynasties and fictional underdogs, aspiration versus inspiration, Moneyball/Cashman example; The Game and Last Dance show dynasty stories work in books/docs; fans hypocritically resent real surprise winners.
- Aged best race in boxing: tribal allegiances remain acceptable in boxing. Early sports films' white heroes facing Black opponents discussed. Disagreement over conceived Ali premise versus audience's racial reading and sequel wish; Apollo himself deploys race. Stallone's boxing investment illustrated by claimed Roy Jones Jr replacement by Antonio Tarver in Rocky Balboa.
- Race discussion: Apollo explicitly monetizes audience racial biases; opinion movie itself clean on race versus Rocky III, with Dipper taking Rocky's locker noted.
- Boxing-gym authenticity: locker taunt and gym stopping for conflict; Van recounts fitness sparring complaint and racial tribalism, followed by commentary stereotype jokes.
- Aged best: miserable initial5a.m. eggs/run/failed steps with coughing and side pain, setting up later triumphant return.
- Angry Mickey dialogue praised, including women weaken legs and eat lightning/crap thunder; Burgess Meredith Penguin/Twilight Zone memories.
- Aged best: inventive meat freezer, gritty1970s Philadelphia/Kensington/Port Richmond and economic despair shared by other cities.
- Aged best: television Rocky marathons, complaint Rocky II repeats original ending; out-of-nowhere athlete inevitably evokes Rocky.
- Aged best: Talia Shire in three Best Picture winners in five years; Adrian distinguished from Connie. Godfather family-lying digression.
- Aged best: Gazzo's driver comedy, Steadicam, and final revised ending. Director anecdote rejected crowd-carrying ending and downcast aisle-walk ending before musical ring reunion saved film. Adrian's subtle vulnerability grounds exaggerated characters; joke Paulie bad brother.