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The beach football game

Candidate one is the beach football game, which one host has analyzed enough to nearly keep score: heavy air yardage to Lori Petty wide open in the end zone, unclear light from the car headlights, an offensive and a defensive line unheard of in backyard football, and Keanu always having time although Swayze nailed him once.

Other candidates: the surfer brawl, where Anthony Kiedis turns out to be one of the dudes, shoots himself in the foot and Busey has to intervene; the big bank robbery leading to the foot chase, the moderator's own preference; the airplane and parachute scene; the airport shootout; and the ending.

"Young, dumb, and full of cum"

Nominees: 'I am an FBI agent', 'via condios' (as transcribed), McGinley's 'You're a real blue flame special, aren't you, son? Young, dumb and full of calm' (as transcribed), 'six seconds we're gonna be meat waffles', and Keanu's 'you crossed the line' speech about people who trusted Bodhi dying.

The film

Point Break (1991)

Directed by Kathryn Bigelow · Drama

122 minutes

Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

Patrick Swayze Bodhi "Bodhisattva"
Keanu Reeves FBI Agent Johnny Utah
Gary Busey FBI Agent Angelo Pappas
Lori Petty Tyler Ann Endicott
John C. McGinley FBI Director Ben Harp
James LeGros Roach
John Philbin Nathaniel
Lee Tergesen Rosie
Vincent Klyn Lupton "Warchild" Pittman
Chris Pedersen "Bunker" Weiss
Dave Olson Archbold
Galyn Gorg Margarita
Sydney Walsh Miss Deer
Anthony Mangano Off Duty Cop at Bank
Mike Genovese FBI Instructor Corey
Jack Kehler FBI Technician Halsey
Christopher Pettiet 15-Year-Old Kid at Surfboard Shop
Peter Phelps Aussie Surfer
Tom Sizemore DEA Agent Deets (uncredited)

Everything from the episode

In the order the hosts got to it. Open a row for the discussion.

13:33

Most Rewatchable Scene

The beach football game; the first bank robbery stakeout; the airplane parachute scene

The beach football game; the first bank robbery stakeout; the airplane parachute scene

In the discussion (9)
Approx. transcript time · 00:13:33Read transcript
  • Candidate one is the beach football game, which one host has analyzed enough to nearly keep score: heavy air yardage to Lori Petty wide open in the end zone, unclear light from the car headlights, an offensive and a defensive line unheard of in backyard football, and Keanu always having time although Swayze nailed him once.
  • Other candidates: the surfer brawl, where Anthony Kiedis turns out to be one of the dudes, shoots himself in the foot and Busey has to intervene; the big bank robbery leading to the foot chase, the moderator's own preference; the airplane and parachute scene; the airport shootout; and the ending.
  • One host takes the parachute scene because it holds every part of the movie in three minutes: the two men battling for alpha-male status, Keanu backing down as Bodhi out-crazies him, the injury, and Bodhi letting the injured Utah know he has been beaten while staying just out of reach.
  • Picks the beach football game because it grounds these counterculture characters, who look weird and spout philosophical things, in an American tradition: good old American boys playing football on the beach. — Jason Concepcion
  • The football game also shows Bodhi's magnetic charisma, and when it devolves into Utah versus Bodhi, Utah earns his respect; it is a great introduction scene, with Bodhi's 'You don't know who this is?'
  • Another backs the first bank robbery, the stakeout: Busey sends Utah for two meatball subs ('give me two'), and at the very end Utah has the shot on Bodhi and does not take it, the moment the movie becomes a psychological contest with Bodhi holding the upper hand.
  • A host says 'I've changed my opinion' and goes with the beach football game, a scene they stay for even when the family is heading out to dinner, adding 'as you said' that it introduces the crew through the old eighties formula of bringing the new guy into the group with a contrived activity; the speaker is not identified.
  • The football scenes are hilarious: Keanu shows the seeds of The Replacements, scrambling like a little white Mike Vick; Swayze sacks him off the edge like DeMarcus Ware; Keanu sheds seven or eight tacklers and runs Swayze down after 840 yards, out of bounds and into the water.
  • When the surfers rush over and Bodhi introduces Johnny Utah as all-conference, the hosts say the writers could have made him a Heisman finalist, doubt surfers on the beach every day knew who he was, and one defends it because he beat SC in the Rose Bowl, so Southern California fans would know.
19:11

What’s Aged the Best?

Swayze versus Keanu; the Richard Nixon impression

Swayze versus Keanu; the Richard Nixon impression

In the discussion (5)
Approx. transcript time · 00:19:11Read transcript
  • The candidates are all the bank robbers, the parachute scene, Swayze versus Keanu (compared with Cage versus Travolta, two actors at relatively the same spot), and the concept of a 50-year storm, which a host still enjoys and once tried to Google the next occurrence of.
  • The last candidate is whoever came up with bank robbers in ex-president masks, called great and the number one movie mask; the film could be made now with Donald Trump and George W. Bush masks.
  • The president masks are unquestionably better than the Halloween Michael Myers mask or the Scream mask; the runner-up masks are the nuns in The Town and the painters in Dead Presidents.
  • Pick: the Swayze-Keanu thing, from a host who came late to Point Break three or four years ago after watching other Keanu and Swayze movies and realizing Gary Busey was in it too; the second answer is the Richard Nixon impression, with a wish to see the audition tapes.
  • Another agrees the Swayze-Keanu pairing is the hook and has aged like a fine wine ('fine line' as transcribed): tell a stranger Swayze, Keanu, surfers, bank robbers and Gary Busey and they are in; it is like Bird and Magic finally meeting in the 84 finals.
24:12

What’s Aged the Worst?

Utah's water tackle of Bodhi; Bodhi's 'never about money' speech; Busey's 'LA's changed' line; the lawnmower in the g...

Utah's water tackle of Bodhi; Bodhi's 'never about money' speech; Busey's 'LA's changed' line; the lawnmower in the gunfight; the first Fast and Furious as a Point Break copy

In the discussion (6)
Approx. transcript time · 00:24:12Read transcript
  • Candidates include Utah's water tackle of Bodhi and Gary Busey playing someone with a job and credibility, but the hosts push back: Busey is actually good, the chemistry with Utah is well written and acted, and he is like the reporter in The Incredible Hulk with the right theory nobody believes.
  • The old-cop, young-cop gimmick is flipped: instead of the veteran teaching the rookie to calm down, the young cop gets the old cop mad on purpose so he can feel something again and work the theory; a host jokes that Titus does that to them.
  • Bodhi's speech that it was never about money but about standing against the system, showing the dead souls inching along the freeways in their metal coffins that the human spirit is alive, is read out; it is called a little awkward and over the top for a bank-robbing surfer, while another jokes about getting it tattooed.
  • For over-the-top lines, Gary Busey staring into the distance saying LA has changed in 22 years, the air got dirty, the air got cleaner, is offered.
  • One host does not feel anything in the movie has aged badly, since it all fits; another names the lawnmower in the gunfight, adding that a man keeps mowing the lawn during a massive gun battle, and the naked woman beats everyone up, earning a joke Best Supporting Actress.
  • The first Fast and Furious has aged worst, since watching Point Break closely shows it was ripped off beat by beat, right down to the Coronas; a host saw an unverified claim that the restaurant where Keanu meets Lori Petty is the same one where Dom and Brian sit down.
30:53

The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance

John C. McGinley; James Legros; the switchblade surfer from the first surfing gang

John C. McGinley; James Legros; the switchblade surfer from the first surfing gang

In the discussion (5)
Approx. transcript time · 00:30:53Read transcript
  • Introduced as a new category, the nominees are John C. McGinley as a stereotypical loud, angry police chief, James LaGrosse (as transcribed) as one of the surfers, Beecher from Oz as Rosie, Anthony Kiedis and Tom Sizemore; one host goes John, Dr. Cox every time over everybody.
  • Another goes with James Legros as Roach, for his heavy surfer-accent line about how small the cold water leaves him feeling, with a pinching gesture, and 'you didn't tell me it was gonna be like this, man'; someone bought Legros stock in 1991, and the role is likened to Valkeem Kilmer (as transcribed) in Heat, the supporting robber you root for when he gets shot.
  • Picks the unidentified actor from the first, violent surfing gang who surfs into Johnny Utah and decides it is time to pull a switchblade. — Mark Titus
  • The switchblade scene set the tone that surfing is serious, against Bodhi's nonviolent mantra of only showing the guns; a host asks who swims with a switchblade and jokes about expecting Shay to say he used to.
  • Later, during best quote, McGinley's going-for-it line delivery is called a Dion Waiters, shooting every time he gets the ball.
32:58

Apex Mountain

Patrick Swayze

Patrick Swayze

In the discussion (7)
Approx. transcript time · 00:32:58Read transcript
  • On Lori Petty, one host does not know who she is beyond Tyler; her credits come up, League of Their Own, Free Willy, Patty Mayonnaise and Orange is the New Black; one host offers Tank Girl as the apex, as the moment someone thought she could carry a movie, another objects that Tank Girl tanked, and one goes with Patty Mayonnaise, so no yes for this film.
  • Her look in the film is called a leftover eighties one, like the Legend of Billie Jean, short hair and a little androgynous, and the hosts note she resembles Woody Harrelson, with a host choosing words carefully about a scene with Utah's FBI badge.
  • Gary Busey is a no: one host offers Surviving the Game, another calls the Buddy Holly story the correct answer because of the Oscar nomination, and another goes with Eye of the Tiger, in which a biker gang kills his wife and daughter after he comes back from Nam and goes to prison.
  • Keanu Reeves is a no way; his apex is debated as The Matrix or John Wick 2, and one host, expecting the others to be mad, says Speed, the 94 smash hit that created the early-released summer action movie and that he carries in nearly every scene; John Wick 2 is floated again as the global-superstar answer.
  • In Speed he took a different cop role, cutting his hair and bulking up to look squared away like a Marine, and Bullock is fantastic in it, which makes sense of her becoming a massive star.
  • Swayze is a yes when asked whether this is his apex: he is in the Milky Way galaxy in this movie, with a box score of 37, 12 and 15 on Isaiah Thomas minutes; a host recalls Michael Douglas on the Ghosts in the Darkness (as transcribed) DVD commentary describing the ideal role, talked about early, appearing a third of the way in and dying at the end, which is what Bodhi was.
  • A Roadhouse case follows: it still has to be Roadhouse, because watching Roadhouse makes you need to be Patrick Swayze, to become Dalton; another calls it the hardest one, likening Point Break to winning the title on a great team and Roadhouse to Kobe carrying the 2006 Lakers to 48 wins, number 8 Kobe versus number 24 Kobe.
1:00:46

Who Won the Movie?

Patrick Swayze

Patrick Swayze

In the discussion (3)
Approx. transcript time · 01:00:46Read transcript
  • With only two choices, Keanu Reeves or Patrick Swayze, the answer is Bodhi, repeated several times because he put his fingerprints on everybody and Utah lets him go; after clarifying the question is about the actor, the answer stays Swayze. The repeated affirmations cannot be shown to come from different hosts, so only one ballot is counted.
  • Utah let him go at the end despite responsibility for 12 deaths, or 20 deaths and billions in damage.
  • A host adds that Swayze won the movie and was putting up wins year after year, winning Roadhouse, Ghost going away, Dirty Dancing and Young Blood with Rob Lowe; The Outsiders is the one he did not win, Matt Dillon did.
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