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The cross-joint scene is boring

The anti-cross-joint host accepts that disinterest in marijuana may explain why the movie’s signature bonding scene feels slow.

Craig Horlbeck: Missing Paper Planes from the film drives the trailer-better disappointment.

Do not let your drug dealer upsell you

Craig Horlbeck: Do not let your drug dealer upsell you; the claim that bongs filter addiction is exposed as false within Saul’s own joint-heavy behavior.

The film

Pineapple Express (2008)

Directed by David Gordon Green · Comedy

112 minutes

Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

Seth Rogen Dale Denton
James Franco Saul Silver
Gary Cole Ted Jones
Kevin Corrigan Budlofsky
Craig Robinson Matheson
Rosie Perez Carol Brazier
Ken Jeong Ken
Amber Heard Angie Anderson
Ed Begley Jr. Robert Anderson

Everything from the episode

In the order the hosts got to it. Open a row for the discussion.

26:34

Most Rewatchable Scene

Dale buying and smoking Pineapple Express with Saul

Dale buying and smoking Pineapple Express with Saul

In the discussion (9)
Approx. transcript time · 00:26:34Read transcript
  • Bill Hader’s black-and-white Item 9 test parodies Reefer Madness and builds a complete stoner vocabulary in minutes. — Craig Horlbeck
  • The high-school visit exposes Dale’s inappropriate age gap and supplies the Goldblum impression, “time to suck today’s dick,” and an outsider correctly challenging the relationship.
  • Saul’s apartment scene captures the awkward transition from buying drugs to hanging out, adds 227, red wine, career talk, and the cross joint.
  • Smashing and losing the phones turns a simple anti-tracking plan into escalating incompetence, including the belief it is how authorities found Saddam.
  • The cop chase and foot through the windshield produce the movie’s most iconic action image. — Craig Horlbeck
  • Red calmly awaits death beside noodles and blood, discusses reincarnation, then supplies an improvised gun-up montage. — Craig Horlbeck
  • The long farm battle is divisive for its hard pivot and graphic violence but preserves funny gun conventions and Gary Cole’s villain.
  • The diner characters rewatch their own adventure aloud, accurately recreating the pleasure of hungover friends rebuilding the previous night.
  • The middle-school dealers’ hostility, fireworks, and adult vocabulary make another favorite scene.
47:20

What’s Aged the Best?

Single-outfit continuity, music, McBride and Robinson, marijuana legalization, restrained vomit, Rogen’s career, the ...

Single-outfit continuity, music, McBride and Robinson, marijuana legalization, restrained vomit, Rogen’s career, the diner, immortal Red, fight timeouts, volatile phone calls, and Saul’s Bubby

In the discussion (10)
Approx. transcript time · 00:47:20Read transcript
  • Wearing the same clothes through a chaotic day preserves the adventure’s continuity and familiar dishevelment. — Craig Horlbeck
  • Electric Avenue, Bob Marley, and the trailer’s Paper Planes give the comedy unusual musical identity. — Craig Horlbeck
  • McBride’s points-per-minute performance announces the persona that leads to Kenny Powers, while Robinson earns near-universal affection.
  • Legalization across most states vindicates the movie’s anti-criminalization argument. — Craig Horlbeck
  • Small mouthfuls of vomit are defended as funnier than effects-driven projectile vomiting. — Craig Horlbeck
  • Rogen became a versatile actor, producer, marijuana entrepreneur, pottery maker, and architecture enthusiast.
  • Red surviving repeated gunshots and an explosion turns him into a comedy Michael Myers.
  • Calling timeout during a fight works first and then fails when Saul tries it later.
  • Dale and Angie’s calls flip instantly between hate, love, marriage, and regret in a way one host finds accurate to immature relationships.
  • Saul’s grandmother and her borrowed family name make his bizarre personal life specific.
59:29

The Great Shot Gordo Award for Most Cinematic Shot

The foot through the windshield

The foot through the windshield

In the discussion (1)
Approx. transcript time · 00:59:29Read transcript
  • The foot through the windshield wins over Franco’s worm, the wide drug sale, and Rogen’s wired “death from above.”
59:55

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

The cross-joint scene is boring; the trailer promises a better movie; the heroes’ decisions mostly make sense; Dale s...

The cross-joint scene is boring; the trailer promises a better movie; the heroes’ decisions mostly make sense; Dale should abandon Saul

In the discussion (4)
Approx. transcript time · 00:59:55Read transcript
  • The anti-cross-joint host accepts that disinterest in marijuana may explain why the movie’s signature bonding scene feels slow.
  • Missing Paper Planes from the film drives the trailer-better disappointment. — Craig Horlbeck
  • Hiding, consulting Red, fleeing, and even hijacking the police car are defended as rational under the circumstances. — Craig Horlbeck
  • Dale’s return for a dealer he barely knows is challenged, with the near-death friendship acceleration offered as defense.
1:04:02

What’s Aged the Worst?

The unnecessary high-school-girlfriend plot, Franco and Heard’s later controversies, racial naming of the rival deale...

The unnecessary high-school-girlfriend plot, Franco and Heard’s later controversies, racial naming of the rival dealers, and naive phone-tracking debate

In the discussion (3)
Approx. transcript time · 01:04:02Read transcript
  • Removing Angie would improve structure, though dinner with her parents and the volatile calls are defended.
  • Referring to the rival organization only as “the Asians” is rejected.
  • The characters wonder whether phones can be traced in an era before routine app location tracking.
1:05:33

Is There a Better Title for This Movie?

Pineapple Express

Pineapple Express

In the discussion (2)
Approx. transcript time · 01:05:33Read transcript
  • You’ve Been Served, Cross Joint, I Love You Bud, Bros Before Hoes, and High as a Kite are intentionally weak alternatives.
  • Easy Job was the shipping title rather than a serious creative candidate.
1:10:23

The Ruffalo / Hanna / Rubinek / Partridge Overacting Award

Rosie Perez

Rosie Perez

In the discussion (1)
Approx. transcript time · 01:10:23Read transcript
  • Rosie Perez wins, with Craig Robinson and the aggressive middle-school dealer offered as alternatives whose excess is praised rather than criticized.
1:11:50

The Butch’s Girlfriend Award for the Weakest Link in the Film

Angie’s thin, reworked girlfriend plot

Angie’s thin, reworked girlfriend plot

In the discussion (1)
Approx. transcript time · 01:11:50Read transcript
  • Angie’s thin, reworked girlfriend plot wins, despite a defense of Heard’s phone performances.
1:13:15

The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

Gary Cole

Gary Cole

In the discussion (1)
Approx. transcript time · 01:13:15Read transcript
  • The hosts explicitly object that regular Rewatchables panelists know so many character actors that they deny ordinary viewers’ That Guy experience. — Craig Horlbeck
1:15:00

The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance

Ed Begley Jr.

Ed Begley Jr.

In the discussion (2)
Approx. transcript time · 01:15:00Read transcript
  • The jock’s Goldblum-impression praise and “suck today’s dick” exit are a major alternate.
  • Begley’s father threatens to take the intruders into the street and have sex with them, then immediately fetches and fires a gun.
1:22:21

Apex Mountain

Weed’s movie apex: strong case

Weed’s movie apex: strong case

In the discussion (3)
Approx. transcript time · 01:22:21Read transcript
  • Franco’s Golden Globe nomination does not outweigh later Oscar attention; McBride’s Eastbound & Down and Cole’s other roles are stronger peaks.
  • The named strain, plot McGuffin, and extensive smoking make a strong case for weed’s movie apex.
  • Ford reportedly refused a murder-by-Fiesta, producing the more memorable Lanos line.
1:36:45

Sequel, Prequel, Limited Series, or All-Black Remake

A Red spinoff or Ted Jones rise-to-power series

A Red spinoff or Ted Jones rise-to-power series

In the discussion (2)
Approx. transcript time · 01:36:45Read transcript
  • The mock sequel sends Dale and Saul to assassinate Woody Harrelson to stop legalization from destroying Red’s business.
  • A Ted and Rosie Perez prequel could explore their chemistry, Red’s recruitment, and the drug organization.
1:41:36

Is This Movie Better With…?

Danny Trejo as Ted’s rival or partner; Kathryn Hahn; Samuel L. Jackson

Danny Trejo as Ted’s rival or partner; Kathryn Hahn; Samuel L. Jackson

In the discussion (1)
Approx. transcript time · 01:41:36Read transcript
1:42:21

Just One Oscar

Danny McBride gets the one Oscar for supporting actor, with Franco as the only hesitation.

Danny McBride gets the one Oscar for supporting actor, with Franco as the only hesitation.

In the discussion (1)
Approx. transcript time · 01:42:21Read transcript
  • Danny McBride gets the one Oscar for supporting actor, with Franco as the only hesitation.
1:43:57

The Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson

Do not let your drug dealer upsell you

Do not let your drug dealer upsell you

In the discussion (1)
Approx. transcript time · 01:43:57Read transcript
  • Do not let your drug dealer upsell you; the claim that bongs filter addiction is exposed as false within Saul’s own joint-heavy behavior. — Craig Horlbeck
1:44:13

What Piece of Memorabilia Would You Want From This Movie?

A preserved cross joint

A preserved cross joint

In the discussion (1)
Approx. transcript time · 01:44:13Read transcript
  • A preserved cross joint wins over the prostitute pistol and Red’s kimono.
1:44:40

Who Won the Movie?

Danny McBride

Danny McBride

In the discussion (2)
Approx. transcript time · 01:44:40Read transcript
  • One speaker chooses McBride and another audibly agrees; the third speaker names two possible answers without casting a final candidate ballot.
  • Rogen may eventually be remembered by later generations as a cannabis entrepreneur more than as an actor, strengthening but not winning his case.
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