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The live performance of “Shallow”

Bill Simmons: The panel calls the live “Shallow” performance the clear winner and one of the century’s best seven-minute sequences.

Bill Simmons: The drag-bar introduction works through Bradley Cooper watching Lady Gaga and then singing “Maybe It’s Time.”

The film

A Star Is Born (2018)

Directed by Bradley Cooper · Musical

136 minutes

Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

Bradley Cooper Jackson "Jack" Maine
Lady Gaga Ally Maine
Dave Chappelle George "Noodles" Stone
Sam Elliott Bobby Maine
Rafi Gavron Rez Gavron
Drena De Niro Paulette Stone

Everything from the episode

In the order the hosts got to it. Open a row for the discussion.

26:58

Most Rewatchable Scene

The live performance of “Shallow”

The live performance of “Shallow”

In the discussion (15)
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  • The panel calls the live “Shallow” performance the clear winner and one of the century’s best seven-minute sequences. — Bill Simmons
  • The drag-bar introduction works through Bradley Cooper watching Lady Gaga and then singing “Maybe It’s Time.” — Bill Simmons
  • The grocery-store parking lot is praised as an intimate songwriting and courtship scene.
  • The Bradley Cooper and Sam Elliott fight is praised as an amazing compact scene. — Bill Simmons
  • “Always Remember Us This Way” is treated as Gaga’s last great musical moment before the pop-star turn.
  • The Grammys sequence becomes darkly comic on repeat viewing even though its humiliation remains difficult to watch. — Bill Simmons
  • The final Cooper and Elliott scene became a durable meme and emotional payoff. — Bill Simmons
  • The cop-bar conversation is praised as an unusually specific and believable flirting scene. — Sean Fennessey
  • The supermarket sequence sustains the early romance through mundane details and the leads’ chemistry. — Sean Fennessey
  • Dice and the drivers watching the viral video provide a charming family-comedy interlude. — Amanda Dobbins
  • The parking-lot scene is the preferred runner-up because Bradley Cooper recognizes Gaga writing a song in real time.
  • The opening concert introduces Jackson’s addiction, charisma, and physical mess without dialogue. — Sean Fennessey
  • Ally’s bathroom introduction establishes a separate crisis and character with equal economy. — Amanda Dobbins
  • The “Shallow” scene is praised for every checkpoint Lady Gaga crosses before stepping onto the stage. — Bill Simmons
  • Bradley Cooper’s supportive reactions communicate love, belief, and encouragement, making that support a major part of his performance. — Amanda Dobbins
42:23

What’s Aged the Best?

Sam Elliott’s driveway reaction, Jackson’s speech about truth and having legs, the inherited franchise line, the endi...

Sam Elliott’s driveway reaction, Jackson’s speech about truth and having legs, the inherited franchise line, the ending, and the soundtrack

In the discussion (5)
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  • Sam Elliott’s silent tear and the brothers’ inability to speak directly are expected to remain a durable meme and emotional truth.
  • Jackson’s “dig deep in your soul” speech to Lady Gaga about truth and having legs is treated as inspirational. — Bill Simmons
  • The ending improved on rewatch because Gaga’s performance cuts back to Bradley Cooper creating the song.
  • The soundtrack is expected to endure because its two musical personas both have convincing songs. — Sean Fennessey
  • “I just wanted to take another look at you” moved from punchline to sincere and memorable franchise line.
47:14

What’s Aged the Worst?

The second hour, the Dave Chappelle detour, the abrupt marriage, the weak SNL pop song, and the movie’s confused pop-...

The second hour, the Dave Chappelle detour, the abrupt marriage, the weak SNL pop song, and the movie’s confused pop-music argument

In the discussion (6)
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  • The second hour is harder to rewatch than the first and begins to grind around the Dave Chappelle section.
  • Chappelle performs well, but the material does not explain why his character and the sudden marriage are necessary. — Bill Simmons
  • The SNL scene supplies cool backstage access, but the song itself is judged poor. — Bill Simmons
  • Jackson’s suicide is defended as necessary tragedy and the culmination of earlier addiction and depression signals. — Sean Fennessey
  • “Why Did You Do That?” is criticized as neither a plausible hit nor a clear intentional parody. — Bill Simmons
  • The movie appears to condemn pop music without showing why Gaga’s character loses agency or why Jackson Maine’s style is more authentic. — Sean Fennessey
54:43

Casting What-Ifs

Earlier versions involved Clint Eastwood, Beyoncé, Christian Bale, Leonardo DiCaprio, Will Smith, Tom Cruise, Ray Lio...

Earlier versions involved Clint Eastwood, Beyoncé, Christian Bale, Leonardo DiCaprio, Will Smith, Tom Cruise, Ray Liotta, and several alternate Ally-father choices.

In the discussion (7)
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58:34

The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance

Andrew Dice Clay

Andrew Dice Clay

In the discussion (4)
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59:18

Half-Assed Internet Research

Los Angeles performance locations, Jackson’s house, Cooper’s makeup and voice work, Gaga’s screen makeup, live singin...

Los Angeles performance locations, Jackson’s house, Cooper’s makeup and voice work, Gaga’s screen makeup, live singing, songwriting, sound, improvisation, and visual foreshadowing

In the discussion (16)
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  • The opening concert footage was shot at Coachella. — Bill Simmons
  • The drag bar is identified as the Virgil and the cop bar as the Short Stop. — Sean Fennessey
  • The supermarket was a Super A in Glassell Park and Gaga’s big debut was filmed at the Greek Theatre. — Bill Simmons
  • Jackson’s Calabasas-area house had sold for about two million dollars after filming.
  • Cooper reportedly used a daily spray tan and menthol to create Jackson’s red, bloodshot appearance. — Bill Simmons
  • The panel disputes the publicity claim that Gaga wore only lip balm and moisturizer, distinguishing “no-makeup makeup.”
  • Jason Isbell wrote “Maybe It’s Time.” — Bill Simmons
  • Cooper trained for a year to lower his speaking voice by an octave. — Bill Simmons
  • The “ugly” line was ad-libbed and Gaga’s shocked reaction was reportedly genuine.
  • Lukas Nelson wrote several songs and Cooper’s own dog Charlie played Jackson’s dog. — Amanda Dobbins
  • Gaga reportedly persuaded Cooper to record the music live rather than lip-sync. — Bill Simmons
  • Sound editing and mixing make unfamiliar live performances feel populated and immediate. — Sean Fennessey
  • Gaga performed the final song soon after learning that a friend had died. — Bill Simmons
  • Much of the drag-bar material was improvised. — Bill Simmons
  • A billboard with four nooses beside Jackson is presented as early death foreshadowing. — Bill Simmons
  • Blue and red lighting join Jackson Maine and Lady Gaga visually and recur in the police lights after his death. — Sean Fennessey
1:00:18

The Amanda Dobbins Award for Best Piece of Real Estate

Jackson Maine’s Calabasas house, its Zillow listing, two-million-dollar sale, and ominous garage

Jackson Maine’s Calabasas house, its Zillow listing, two-million-dollar sale, and ominous garage

In the discussion (4)
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  • Jackson Maine’s home is introduced as “the real estate” and the intersection of Amanda’s interests.
  • The panel opens the home’s Zillow listing and places it in a Calabasas neighborhood.
  • The house reportedly sold for two million dollars after filming. — Bill Simmons
  • The garage is criticized as frightening and the panel jokes about changing how its door opens. — Bill Simmons
1:08:51

Apex Mountain

This is Bradley Cooper’s career apex; Lady Gaga is debated and receives only a tentative yes unless an acting win fol...

This is Bradley Cooper’s career apex; Lady Gaga is debated and receives only a tentative yes unless an acting win follows.

In the discussion (4)
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  • The film is called Cooper’s unquestioned career apex. — Bill Simmons
  • Gaga had already achieved exceptional global pop fame before the film. — Sean Fennessey
  • Her fan base is credited with much of the movie’s worldwide commercial reach. — Sean Fennessey
  • The panel gives Gaga a tentative apex verdict, becoming certain only if she wins Best Actress. — Sean Fennessey
1:10:33

The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

Ron Rifkin and Greg Grunberg are co-winners over Anthony Ramos.

Ron Rifkin and Greg Grunberg are co-winners over Anthony Ramos.

In the discussion (3)
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1:11:08

Is This Movie Better With…?

Michael K. Williams is the preferred addition at Chappelle’s house; Danny Trejo and Steve Buscemi are also offered.

Michael K. Williams is the preferred addition at Chappelle’s house; Danny Trejo and Steve Buscemi are also offered.

In the discussion (2)
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1:11:47

The Ruffalo / Hanna / Rubinek / Partridge Overacting Award

Rafi Gavron’s manager Rez

Rafi Gavron’s manager Rez

In the discussion (5)
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  • The panel finds no obvious signature overacting performance. — Bill Simmons
  • Rez is criticized as a weak link and receives the award as reverse acclaim. — Bill Simmons
  • The similarity between the character name Rez Gavron and actor name Rafi Gavron is questioned. — Sean Fennessey
  • The manager reads as an insidious Billy Zane type until the final confrontation becomes overtly villainous.
  • With the right actor, the panelist says he would have bought the career-ending confrontation. — Amanda Dobbins
1:13:44

Picking Nits

The opening geography, Jackson’s contemporary arena-level fame, the instant “Shallow” arrangement, unaccounted-for ni...

The opening geography, Jackson’s contemporary arena-level fame, the instant “Shallow” arrangement, unaccounted-for night hours, and the effort to make Sam Elliott a plausible brother

In the discussion (7)
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  • The drive from the opening venue to East Hollywood and then Jackson’s house produces unresolved geography.
  • The panel questions whether a Jackson Maine-style country-rock star could still sell out venues at that scale.
  • “Shallow” appears fully arranged even though the parking-lot conversation contains separate fragments and no rehearsal. — Bill Simmons
  • The dark parking lot and daylight drop-off leave several unexplained hours. — Amanda Dobbins
  • One theory says the couple finished writing the song during those hours; another adds sex, which the panel disputes.
  • The movie’s otherwise grounded intimacy makes the instant musical arrangement feel especially artificial.
  • Repeated family exposition strains to make Sam Elliott and Bradley Cooper plausible brothers. — Sean Fennessey
1:21:01

The Neil McCauley “A Book about Metals” Award for Best Line from the Movie

“If I was no good, then why’d you steal my fucking voice?”

“If I was no good, then why’d you steal my fucking voice?”

In the discussion (4)
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  • Bobby’s accusation that Jackson stole his voice is the immediate best-line answer. — Sean Fennessey
  • “I just wanted to take another look at you” is the inherited franchise alternative. — Amanda Dobbins
  • The extravagant “I love your nose” speech is another memorable passage. — Bill Simmons
  • “All you gotta do is trust me” is valued for the moment before Gaga’s character goes on stage.
1:22:02

Sequel, Prequel, Limited Series, or All-Black Remake

No; a ten-episode version would be fundamentally different

No; a ten-episode version would be fundamentally different

In the discussion (2)
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  • The panel answers no to a ten-episode streaming remake. — Sean Fennessey
  • The panel says a ten-episode Netflix version would be weird. — Sean Fennessey
1:22:11

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Cooper’s Eddie Vedder influence; Jackson’s real-world musical analogue; public reaction to the Grammys incident; the ...

Cooper’s Eddie Vedder influence; Jackson’s real-world musical analogue; public reaction to the Grammys incident; the absence of celebrity-gossip texture

In the discussion (5)
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  • The panel asks why Cooper never openly admits the scale of his Eddie Vedder imitation. — Bill Simmons
  • Jackson is compared to an imagined solo-career Eddie Vedder after leaving Pearl Jam. — Bill Simmons
  • The Grammys accident is imagined as a huge breaking-news and social-media event. — Amanda Dobbins
  • The response cycle would move through mockery, addiction ethics, responsibility, sexism, backlash, treatment coverage, and counter-backlash. — Amanda Dobbins
  • The movie largely avoids magazine covers, gossip sites, and blind-item culture to remain less tied to one era. — Bill Simmons
1:24:46

Who Won the Movie?

Bradley Cooper

Bradley Cooper

In the discussion (5)
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  • Cooper is the immediate winner despite the episode’s expectation that the Oscars may not reward him. — Bill Simmons
  • His acting is considered equal to Gaga’s, with directing and authorship making the difference. — Bill Simmons
  • The star-director combination makes this one of the clearest winners across the podcast to that point. — Bill Simmons
  • Directing while staying in character, remembering lines, and playing off scene partners is emphasized as extremely difficult. — Bill Simmons
  • The gamble’s success completes the case for Cooper.
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