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The bus jump leads

Bill Simmons: The elevator rescue is nominated despite its resemblance to Die Hard.

Bill Simmons: The stretch from the first bus explosion and payphone call through meeting Annie is nominated.

Pop quiz, hotshot

Bill Simmons: Stay on or get off and don't get dead are nominated; the latter is also proposed as an action-film title.

The film

Speed (1994)

Directed by Jan de Bont · Action

116 minutes

Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

Keanu Reeves LAPD Officer Jack Traven
Dennis Hopper Howard Payne
Sandra Bullock Annie Porter
Joe Morton LAPD Lieutenant Herb 'Mac' McMahon
Jeff Daniels LAPD Detective Harry Temple
Alan Ruck Doug Stephens
Glenn Plummer Maurice the Jaguar owner
Beth Grant Helen
Hawthorne James Sam Silver
Natsuko Ohama Mrs. Kamino
Margaret Medina Officer Robin
Jordan Lund Bagwell
Robert Mailhouse young executive
Susan Barnes female executive
Neisha Folkes-LeMelle Mrs. McMahon
Richard Lineback Sergeant Norwood
Beau Starr Commissioner
Sandy Martin bartender

Everything from the episode

In the order the hosts got to it. Open a row for the discussion.

12:50

Most Rewatchable Scene

The bus jump leads; Hopper’s decapitation is another pick

The bus jump leads; Hopper’s decapitation is another pick

In the discussion (10)
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  • The elevator rescue is nominated despite its resemblance to Die Hard. — Bill Simmons
  • The stretch from the first bus explosion and payphone call through meeting Annie is nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • The bus-driver rescue, the older passenger’s failed escape, the bus jump, and Hopper’s decapitation are nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • The bus jump is preferred for everyone hugging and screaming after surviving, before the next crisis.
  • The jump feels underwhelming on rewatch; the film works through sustained tension rather than isolated scenes. — Donnie Kwak
  • The decapitation is an alternative choice; Ned Stark’s death is offered as a leading comparison.
  • The light-fixture decapitation is admired for its brutality, though more blood would have made it stronger.
  • The bus jump is selected for the buildup, map error, and decision to accelerate. — Jason Concepcion
  • The claim that an interchange might supply an incline is questioned.
  • The bus jump is also chosen for the ridiculous upward flight; a MythBusters demonstration is said to show a real bus falling instead. — Bill Simmons
17:11

Casting What-Ifs

Reported casting alternatives and declined directors are discussed; Bullock and de Bont are judged successful choices.

Reported casting alternatives and declined directors are discussed; Bullock and de Bont are judged successful choices.

In the discussion (8)
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  • Stephen Baldwin reportedly declined because the script resembled Die Hard; the decision is mocked.
  • Jeff Bridges and Johnny Depp reportedly passed; Depp is considered capable of playing the part.
  • An earlier, more comic-relief version of Annie was reportedly written with Ellen DeGeneres in mind. — Bill Simmons
  • Halle Berry reportedly declined the rewritten Annie role; she is considered a promising alternative. — Bill Simmons
  • Bullock is preferred because her charm develops over the film instead of relying on immediate glamour.
  • Berry reportedly thought the role would have reduced her to a black bus driver; the discussion both detects bitterness and concedes she might have been right. — Bill Simmons
  • John McTiernan, Renny Harlin, and Quentin Tarantino reportedly declined to direct; Tarantino’s potential version is admired.
  • Hiring the Die Hard cinematographer to direct is judged to have worked out well. — Bill Simmons
19:33

What’s Aged the Best?

Sandra Bullock, Keanu Reeves and the relentless premise

Sandra Bullock, Keanu Reeves and the relentless premise

In the discussion (9)
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  • Young Bullock and Reeves’s crew cut, physique, and progressively dirty white shirt are nominated.
  • Reeves reportedly arrived with a shaved head and spent two months getting into shape.
  • The stay-on-or-get-off exchange is nominated and suggested as an alternative title. — Bill Simmons
  • The bus going under fifty and exploding is a great, simple movie premise; the action moves faster than Die Hard.
  • Die Hard on a bus is nominated; Money Train and another Denzel train film prompt comparisons. — Bill Simmons
  • Young Bullock is selected as a star whose potential becomes unmistakable, with an athletic-breakthrough analogy. — Bill Simmons
  • Annie’s kindness toward Sam and her easy joke about not driving next time make her especially appealing.
  • Reeves is selected for trustworthy, decisive command that contrasts with his earlier stoner and surfer image.
  • Reeves’s haircut is chosen because it would still work today.
25:33

What’s Aged the Worst?

Stereotyped passengers lead the criticism; traffic, missing phones, and police behavior are also debated, with de-esc...

Stereotyped passengers lead the criticism; traffic, missing phones, and police behavior are also debated, with de-escalation defended.

In the discussion (9)
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  • Missing cell phones and the bus jump are raised as aged-worst candidates. — Bill Simmons
  • Criticism of Hopper’s excessive performance is rejected; prolonged driving above fifty in Los Angeles is considered implausible. — Bill Simmons
  • The stereotyped passenger ensemble is selected, especially the uptight tourist and the armed passenger who assumes the cop is after him. — Bill Simmons
  • Jack putting down his gun and badge to reason with the armed passenger seems implausible for a Los Angeles cop.
  • That calm response is contrasted with commandeering the Jaguar at gunpoint and the earlier shoot-the-hostage strategy.
  • The passenger types are mocked as box-checking; a stand-up routine and Daylight provide comparisons. — Bill Simmons
  • A reported passenger-cast oral history says backstories and arcs were cut, disappointing the actors.
  • Frightened people acting realistically can be the most irritating screen characters; Skyler in Breaking Bad is offered as a parallel.
  • Not shooting the armed passenger is offered as a criticism, answered by the defense that Jack defuses situations as well as bombs.
30:38

Picking Nits

Tires, payphone timing, gasoline, bus stops, cameras, the bomber’s home, the jump, and Annie’s driving (several dispu...

Tires, payphone timing, gasoline, bus stops, cameras, the bomber’s home, the jump, and Annie’s driving (several disputed)

In the discussion (13)
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  • Could Jack shoot the tires before the bus reaches fifty? — Bill Simmons
  • The counterargument is that Hopper could detonate remotely and watch on camera; the reply distinguishes the unarmed speed-trigger phase.
  • Answering a payphone after the explosion is questioned, along with how the caller knows Jack will be there; a video-game side-mission analogy defends answering.
  • Stabbing the fuel tank to hang onto the bus is questioned, and the missing consequences of the lingering gasoline smell are mocked. — Bill Simmons
  • Stopping for Annie after departing is questioned, then defended through a bus-driver father’s habit of waiting for regulars and bringing tacos. — Bill Simmons
  • The blast that kills Helen seems likely to destroy a tire and cause an accident.
  • The airport tire spikes appear to damage a tire, yet the bus continues without consequences. — Bill Simmons
  • An unnamed participant describes accidentally driving over Staples Center tire spikes without tire damage, challenging the assumption that spikes always work. — Bill Simmons
  • Hopper’s repeated Wildcat clue is interpreted as deliberate taunting rather than a slip. — Bill Simmons
  • A 1994 onboard camera is questioned, then defended through recollections of early school-bus cameras; an uninterrupted feed still seems implausible.
  • Entering a bomber’s home without anticipating explosives is criticized, while Daniels’s death expression is admired and compared to Dumb and Dumber. — Bill Simmons
  • The bus could not survive the landing even if it somehow completed the jump. — Bill Simmons
  • Annie’s ability to drive the bus is questioned; replies suggest parking is the hard part and much of the task is going straight. — Bill Simmons
31:18

Half-Assed Internet Research

Oscars, stunt stories, script changes and the bus jump

Oscars, stunt stories, script changes and the bus jump

In the discussion (12)
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  • The film reportedly won Oscars for sound editing and sound mixing.
  • Reeves reportedly performed ninety percent of his stunts, including a secretly practiced Jaguar-to-bus jump that surprised the director. — Bill Simmons
  • The surprise-jump story is challenged as publicity exaggeration because a shot requires coordination; doing the jump itself remains believable.
  • Going under the bus is rejected as something Reeves did himself; even at five miles per hour, he could die.
  • An original script reportedly revealed Harry as the villain; the betrayal is enthusiastically welcomed as a remake possibility.
  • Joss Whedon is credited with script-doctor dialogue, including Gigantor.
  • Bullock reportedly learned to drive a bus and is praised as convincing behind the wheel.
  • River Phoenix’s death during filming reportedly led to easier scenes being scheduled while Reeves grieved. — Bill Simmons
  • The highway filming is placed on the 105 and 110 freeways. — Bill Simmons
  • Early visual effects reportedly supplied the freeway gap; footage of the actual stunt shows the bus collapsing on landing. — Bill Simmons
  • The bus jump reportedly was absent from the script until the director saw unfinished freeway and proposed it. — Bill Simmons
  • The practical jump reportedly rose twenty feet, traveled 109 feet, and overshot onto a camera. — Bill Simmons
33:00

Roger Ebert's review

In the discussion (2)
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  • Ebert reportedly gave Speed four out of four stars and described viewers gripping a companion’s forearm.
  • Ebert’s reported three-star review of Speed 2 surprises the discussion; the sequel is still criticized.
37:49

The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance

Joe Morton (two choices); Alan Ruck and Helen (other picks)

Joe Morton (two choices); Alan Ruck and Helen (other picks)

In the discussion (8)
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  • Hopper would win if eligible, but is treated as a star rather than a role player. — Bill Simmons
  • Glenn Plummer’s Jaguar driver is nominated, with appreciation for his run of supporting action roles.
  • Alan Ruck, the older woman, Sam, the construction-worker passenger, and Joe Morton are nominated.
  • Ruck is chosen for complaining that he has already seen the airport after repeated near-death experiences.
  • Morton is selected for his chief-like authority and rapid delivery.
  • Helen is chosen for trying to abandon the bus and suffering a particularly brutal death.
  • A second Morton choice praises his calming influence, though another response finds his celebrations excessive.
  • Morton walking up to Traven and Annie at the end is enjoyed as the perfect time for a joke.
40:44

Apex Mountain

Bullock: tentative yes

Bullock: tentative yes

In the discussion (6)
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  • Reeves is judged to have higher peaks ahead.
  • Bullock is judged to have gone higher later; an off-podcast choice heard as miscongeniality is reported as a movie she carried to $200 million.
  • A tentative Bullock choice is offered despite uncertainty.
  • Hopper is proposed, with disagreement over his earlier work and Easy Rider’s generational significance.
  • Daniels is rejected individually, but a combined Speed and Dumb and Dumber year is floated.
  • Sam the bus driver is suggested without a firm ruling. — Bill Simmons
41:42

Unintentional Comedy Award

Helen’s escape, Hopper running and Reeves’s reactions

Helen’s escape, Hopper running and Reeves’s reactions

In the discussion (8)
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  • The old lady blowing up and the FBI dude urging her to jump are nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • Sam trying to continue driving after being shot is nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • Maintaining fifty miles per hour in Los Angeles morning traffic is treated as absurd; even thirty is imagined as difficult. — Bill Simmons
  • Hopper’s awkward running is selected and compared to Nicholson running in another film.
  • Failing to check for Hopper’s body after the explosion is another choice.
  • The Wildcats delivery raises the question of whether unusual line readings are always part of Reeves’s appeal.
  • The cans-filled baby carriage and Jack laughing as Annie fears she killed a baby are selected.
  • Jack’s tantrum after Harry’s death is floated as the eventual winner.
49:55

The Neil McCauley “A Book about Metals” Award for Best Line from the Movie

Pop quiz, hotshot

Pop quiz, hotshot

In the discussion (6)
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  • Stay on or get off and don't get dead are nominated; the latter is also proposed as an action-film title. — Bill Simmons
  • The exchange about relationships under intense circumstances and basing one on sex is nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • Pop quiz, hotshot is selected as the iconic phrase, with a preference for the short wording over the entire bomb explanation.
  • Harry’s warning that guts will eventually get someone killed is offered as an additional choice.
  • The basement answer to what could stop a falling elevator is nominated as a dark joke.
  • The discussion agrees that Pop quiz, hotshot is the most memorable. — Bill Simmons
51:59

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Freeway notoriety, hypothetical Cage/Reeves swaps, Face/Off identity, and favorite action titles

Freeway notoriety, hypothetical Cage/Reeves swaps, Face/Off identity, and favorite action titles

In the discussion (7)
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  • Was the combination of Speed and the O.J. chase the greatest summer for Los Angeles freeways? — Bill Simmons
  • Young Nick Cage as Jack is judged worse but more interesting; he could not supply the steady, polite cop.
  • Replacing Cage with Reeves in the films heard as Conair and Face Off is rejected; both are considered perfect Cage vehicles. — Bill Simmons
  • Face/Off’s spouse failing to recognize intimate differences is questioned; knowingly accepting the substitute is floated as a counterreading. — Bill Simmons
  • The Terminator, Speed, Face/Off, Cliffhanger, Die Hard, and First Blood are nominated as great action titles.
  • Die Hard and The Terminator receive explicit title preferences; Speed is praised too.
  • Minimum Speed is reported as an original title and mocked as inferior.
56:24

Who Won the Movie?

Sandra Bullock

Sandra Bullock

In the discussion (4)
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Sandra Bullock
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Sandra Bullock

More from the conversation

The film is proposed as an early modern action movie: its pace feels current, though the visuals and some dialogue feel dated. The elevator opening recalls Die Hard.
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A modern remake could include passenger tweets, but phones would not necessarily save the bus. Another preference is to keep phones and Twitter out of movies, and a remake is discouraged.
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The release is said to have preceded the O.J. chase by a week. Strong screenings reportedly moved it from August into June, helping expand the summer action-release calendar before Twister.
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Sandra Bullock’s earlier work in The Vanishing and Love Potion Number Nine is recalled fondly; Demolition Man failed to deliver the expected breakthrough, which came with Speed.
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Tate Donovan’s reported relationships are compared to a quietly successful romantic run, and Demolition Man’s unrealized promise is compared to the 2004 Lakers.
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The post-Point Break career discussion recalls Bill and Ted 2, mocked Dracula work, My Own Private Idaho, an uncertain title heard as Providence, and Much Ado About Nothing. Speed is credited with reversing the downward trajectory.
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Speed, The Matrix, Point Break, and the two John Wick films are proposed as an exceptionally strong five-film action portfolio, despite Keanu not always being perceived as an action star.
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The older muscular action-star generation is contrasted with Wesley Snipes, Keanu, and Nicolas Cage. Die Hard is offered as the key shift toward an ordinary-looking hero, with a Dream Team generational analogy.
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Speed’s director is said to have worked as Die Hard’s cinematographer. Similarity to Die Hard reportedly discouraged potential participants, while the discussion welcomes further variations such as Sudden Death at a hockey game.
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Declining Speed 2 is called wise, although the subsequent film choices draw criticism. A counterargument defends their potential and Devil’s Advocate; the sequel’s slower cruise-ship premise is mocked.
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Under Siege’s boat and train settings are contrasted. A preference for the more frequently televised second film is defended as more fun.
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Dennis Hopper’s intense villain entrance, including stabbing a man in the ear, is admired. Nicholson and De Niro are imagined as intriguing alternatives, without a confirmed casting claim.
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The elevator rescue is praised; a modern version is imagined cutting a passenger in half. Jeff Daniels’s sweating, ordinary appearance is appreciated, and his two Harry roles in Speed and Dumb and Dumber inspire a shared-universe joke.
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The police accepting Hopper’s apparent death without finding blood or body remains is questioned. His damaged hand holding the phone is admired.
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The bus-bomb rules are recapped and an initial assumption of many deaths in the first bus explosion is corrected: only the driver was aboard.
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A hypothetical Ringer-office bomb movie would require a blog post to solve the crisis; it is a joke premise, not an established category.
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Bruce Willis moving from television and comedy into Die Hard and Nicolas Cage in Con Air illustrate unexpected action-star reinventions.
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Only acting frightened for weeks sounds draining to one participant but like an ideal limited-range acting job to another.
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Tom Cruise’s filmed stunt injury prompts laughter, followed by a comparison to Jackie Chan’s frequent injuries.
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An unnamed participant describes a father who has driven a bus in San Antonio for more than thirty years and never replied to a text asking about Speed.
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A Hollywood documentary about River Phoenix is proposed. The discussion asks who was present at his death and speculates about missing information; these are questions and speculation, not independently established facts.
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Samantha Mathis is recalled in connection with River Phoenix, Pump Up the Volume, and Broken Arrow.
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The Los Angeles subway is described as empty and eerie, suggesting it as a possible Die Hard setting.
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A Jan-name digression recalls Jan Hammer and the Miami Vice theme as a former ringtone.
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The discussion asks when Jack becomes interested in Annie; her calming support after Harry’s death is proposed as the turning point.
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Reeves reportedly wanted the original script’s quick jokes toned down. This is praised as a shift away from post-kill quips, although the basement joke and later action stars supply exceptions.
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The Hunted’s improvised weapons inspire affection and a practical objection about using a gun; First Blood and Commando supply related survival-action examples.
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A film about wealthy people hunting the wrong person is proposed, with The Most Dangerous Game, The Hunger Games, 8mm, The Purge, Surviving the Game, and The Running Man as comparisons; the desired perfect version remains hypothetical.
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An airport and parking garage are proposed as a fictional police-chase escape strategy because helicopters supposedly cannot follow.
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That airport strategy is challenged: flights could stop so helicopters could enter, with arriving planes the remaining concern.
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More bus deaths are proposed but opposed because too many would reduce investment; Helen’s death is defended as sufficient to establish danger.
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The handcuffed armed passenger’s ultimate fate is questioned and presumed release jokes return to Jack putting down his badge.
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Speed and The Fugitive are praised for sustained pacing; The Fugitive is offered as a favorite Harrison Ford performance, with Tom Hanks imagined as an alternative.
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A directly addressed closing response praises Speed as a classic built on a strong one-sentence premise.
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A future Los Angeles show at Largo is announced. Face/Off, Bloodsport, and Pulp Fiction are proposed, without a final selection or a live tag for this episode.
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Jackie Brown is called Tarantino’s best; the Bruce Willis/girlfriend stretch of Pulp Fiction is criticized as a pacing problem.
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