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The cross-joint scene is boring

The anti-cross-joint host accepts that disinterest in marijuana may explain why the movie’s signature bonding scene feels slow.

Craig Horlbeck: Missing Paper Planes from the film drives the trailer-better disappointment.

Do not let your drug dealer upsell you

Craig Horlbeck: Do not let your drug dealer upsell you; the claim that bongs filter addiction is exposed as false within Saul’s own joint-heavy behavior.

The film

Pineapple Express (2008)

Directed by David Gordon Green · Comedy

112 minutes

Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

Seth Rogen Dale Denton
James Franco Saul Silver
Gary Cole Ted Jones
Kevin Corrigan Budlofsky
Craig Robinson Matheson
Rosie Perez Carol Brazier
Ken Jeong Ken
Amber Heard Angie Anderson
Ed Begley Jr. Robert Anderson

Everything from the episode

In the order the hosts got to it. Open a row for the discussion.

18:22

Casting What-Ifs

Rogen and Franco were originally assigned opposite roles, Olivia Thirlby preceded Heard, and Bryan Cranston was rejec...

Rogen and Franco were originally assigned opposite roles, Olivia Thirlby preceded Heard, and Bryan Cranston was rejected for Ted Jones as insufficiently scary immediately before Breaking Bad.

In the discussion (2)
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  • A triple swap putting McBride as Dale, Rogen as Saul, and Franco as Red is an earlier hypothetical.
  • Cranston’s rejection for a drug-dealer role became especially ironic when Breaking Bad premiered around the film’s release.
22:33

Roger Ebert's review

In the discussion (2)
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  • Ebert’s respect for David Gordon Green helps the panel frame the film as unusually well shot and staged for its material.
  • The car chase’s failed windshield kick is a carefully framed action gag that subverts a familiar trope.
26:34

Most Rewatchable Scene

Dale buying and smoking Pineapple Express with Saul

Dale buying and smoking Pineapple Express with Saul

In the discussion (9)
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  • Bill Hader’s black-and-white Item 9 test parodies Reefer Madness and builds a complete stoner vocabulary in minutes. — Craig Horlbeck
  • The high-school visit exposes Dale’s inappropriate age gap and supplies the Goldblum impression, “time to suck today’s dick,” and an outsider correctly challenging the relationship.
  • Saul’s apartment scene captures the awkward transition from buying drugs to hanging out, adds 227, red wine, career talk, and the cross joint.
  • Smashing and losing the phones turns a simple anti-tracking plan into escalating incompetence, including the belief it is how authorities found Saddam.
  • The cop chase and foot through the windshield produce the movie’s most iconic action image. — Craig Horlbeck
  • Red calmly awaits death beside noodles and blood, discusses reincarnation, then supplies an improvised gun-up montage. — Craig Horlbeck
  • The long farm battle is divisive for its hard pivot and graphic violence but preserves funny gun conventions and Gary Cole’s villain.
  • The diner characters rewatch their own adventure aloud, accurately recreating the pleasure of hungover friends rebuilding the previous night.
  • The middle-school dealers’ hostility, fireworks, and adult vocabulary make another favorite scene.
47:20

What’s Aged the Best?

Single-outfit continuity, music, McBride and Robinson, marijuana legalization, restrained vomit, Rogen’s career, the ...

Single-outfit continuity, music, McBride and Robinson, marijuana legalization, restrained vomit, Rogen’s career, the diner, immortal Red, fight timeouts, volatile phone calls, and Saul’s Bubby

In the discussion (10)
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  • Wearing the same clothes through a chaotic day preserves the adventure’s continuity and familiar dishevelment. — Craig Horlbeck
  • Electric Avenue, Bob Marley, and the trailer’s Paper Planes give the comedy unusual musical identity. — Craig Horlbeck
  • McBride’s points-per-minute performance announces the persona that leads to Kenny Powers, while Robinson earns near-universal affection.
  • Legalization across most states vindicates the movie’s anti-criminalization argument. — Craig Horlbeck
  • Small mouthfuls of vomit are defended as funnier than effects-driven projectile vomiting. — Craig Horlbeck
  • Rogen became a versatile actor, producer, marijuana entrepreneur, pottery maker, and architecture enthusiast.
  • Red surviving repeated gunshots and an explosion turns him into a comedy Michael Myers.
  • Calling timeout during a fight works first and then fails when Saul tries it later.
  • Dale and Angie’s calls flip instantly between hate, love, marriage, and regret in a way one host finds accurate to immature relationships.
  • Saul’s grandmother and her borrowed family name make his bizarre personal life specific.
56:47

The Slow Ride / Kid Cudi – Pursuit of Happiness Award for Best Needle Drop

Split: “Electric Avenue”; Bob Marley’s “Time Will Tell”

Split: “Electric Avenue”; Bob Marley’s “Time Will Tell”

In the discussion (1)
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  • Electric Avenue wins one vote and Bob Marley’s Time Will Tell another; Paper Planes is excluded because it appears only in the trailer.
58:03

The Big Kahuna Burger Award for Best Use of Food and Drink

The red slushie, vomited chicken fries, fruit roll-ups, and Red’s cat-birthday cake split the category.

The red slushie, vomited chicken fries, fruit roll-ups, and Red’s cat-birthday cake split the category.

In the discussion (1)
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  • The red slushie, vomited chicken fries, fruit roll-ups, and Red’s cat-birthday cake split the category.
58:33

The Den of Thieves Benihana Award for Scene-Stealing Location

The old military installation turned cannabis farm

The old military installation turned cannabis farm

In the discussion (1)
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  • The old military installation turned cannabis farm wins over Red’s cluttered, cozy house.
59:29

The Great Shot Gordo Award for Most Cinematic Shot

The foot through the windshield

The foot through the windshield

In the discussion (1)
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  • The foot through the windshield wins over Franco’s worm, the wide drug sale, and Rogen’s wired “death from above.”
59:55

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

The cross-joint scene is boring; the trailer promises a better movie; the heroes’ decisions mostly make sense; Dale s...

The cross-joint scene is boring; the trailer promises a better movie; the heroes’ decisions mostly make sense; Dale should abandon Saul

In the discussion (4)
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  • The anti-cross-joint host accepts that disinterest in marijuana may explain why the movie’s signature bonding scene feels slow.
  • Missing Paper Planes from the film drives the trailer-better disappointment. — Craig Horlbeck
  • Hiding, consulting Red, fleeing, and even hijacking the police car are defended as rational under the circumstances. — Craig Horlbeck
  • Dale’s return for a dealer he barely knows is challenged, with the near-death friendship acceleration offered as defense.
1:03:19

The Ron Burgundy Flute Award for the Best Time for a Pee Break

The third Angie phone call and breakup; return before Dale recruits Red

The third Angie phone call and breakup; return before Dale recruits Red

In the discussion (1)
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  • The third Angie phone call and adjacent breakup stretch are the suggested break, provided the viewer returns before Dale recruits Red. — Craig Horlbeck
1:04:02

What’s Aged the Worst?

The unnecessary high-school-girlfriend plot, Franco and Heard’s later controversies, racial naming of the rival deale...

The unnecessary high-school-girlfriend plot, Franco and Heard’s later controversies, racial naming of the rival dealers, and naive phone-tracking debate

In the discussion (3)
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  • Removing Angie would improve structure, though dinner with her parents and the volatile calls are defended.
  • Referring to the rival organization only as “the Asians” is rejected.
  • The characters wonder whether phones can be traced in an era before routine app location tracking.
1:05:33

Is There a Better Title for This Movie?

Pineapple Express

Pineapple Express

In the discussion (2)
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  • You’ve Been Served, Cross Joint, I Love You Bud, Bros Before Hoes, and High as a Kite are intentionally weak alternatives.
  • Easy Job was the shipping title rather than a serious creative candidate.
1:06:48

Most Popular Meme That Came From This Movie

“Thug Life”

“Thug Life”

In the discussion (2)
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  • The hosts distinguish Tupac’s prior use from this movie popularizing the phrase among white teenagers.
  • The cross joint and named strain became real cultural objects beyond quoted dialogue.
1:10:23

The Ruffalo / Hanna / Rubinek / Partridge Overacting Award

Rosie Perez

Rosie Perez

In the discussion (1)
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  • Rosie Perez wins, with Craig Robinson and the aggressive middle-school dealer offered as alternatives whose excess is praised rather than criticized.
1:11:50

The Butch’s Girlfriend Award for the Weakest Link in the Film

Angie’s thin, reworked girlfriend plot

Angie’s thin, reworked girlfriend plot

In the discussion (1)
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  • Angie’s thin, reworked girlfriend plot wins, despite a defense of Heard’s phone performances.
1:13:15

The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

Gary Cole

Gary Cole

In the discussion (1)
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  • The hosts explicitly object that regular Rewatchables panelists know so many character actors that they deny ordinary viewers’ That Guy experience. — Craig Horlbeck
1:15:00

The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance

Ed Begley Jr.

Ed Begley Jr.

In the discussion (2)
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  • The jock’s Goldblum-impression praise and “suck today’s dick” exit are a major alternate.
  • Begley’s father threatens to take the intruders into the street and have sex with them, then immediately fetches and fires a gun.
1:17:24

Recasting Couch

Skyler Gisondo, Tim Robinson, and Sam Richardson

Skyler Gisondo, Tim Robinson, and Sam Richardson

In the discussion (1)
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  • The panel boycotts a 2022 recast for lack of obvious young comic actors, then proposes Skyler Gisondo, Tim Robinson, and Sam Richardson.
1:18:37

Half-Assed Internet Research

The meteorological name, real civil engineers, locations, 180 uses of “fuck,” cross joints, cable overdubbing, the sm...

The meteorological name, real civil engineers, locations, 180 uses of “fuck,” cross joints, cable overdubbing, the smoking billboard, Snicklefritz, injuries, and overlapping Superbad work

In the discussion (6)
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  • Weathercasters coined Pineapple Express for an atmospheric river carrying tropical moisture in the late 1960s. — Craig Horlbeck
  • Saul’s named civil engineers and projects are real. — Craig Horlbeck
  • The hosts count 180 uses of “fuck.”
  • “Melon farmers” deliberately imitates cable overdubbing of profanity.
  • A smoking billboard triggered fire reports, and Snicklefritz came from a supervisor’s insult for a struggling PA.
  • Rogen broke a finger, and Superbad drawings were created during overlapping woods production.
1:22:21

Apex Mountain

Weed’s movie apex: strong case

Weed’s movie apex: strong case

In the discussion (3)
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  • Franco’s Golden Globe nomination does not outweigh later Oscar attention; McBride’s Eastbound & Down and Cole’s other roles are stronger peaks.
  • The named strain, plot McGuffin, and extensive smoking make a strong case for weed’s movie apex.
  • Ford reportedly refused a murder-by-Fiesta, producing the more memorable Lanos line.
1:27:27

Hall of Fame Plaque

No plaque winner

No plaque winner

In the discussion (1)
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  • The panel finds no plaque winner; its ensemble balance is the point. — Craig Horlbeck
1:27:37

Best Race Horse Name from This Movie

Snicklefritz, Bong Mitzvah, Pineapple Express, I’m Done with the Woods, Mr. Wiggles, Not a Compliment, and Big Sexy

Snicklefritz, Bong Mitzvah, Pineapple Express, I’m Done with the Woods, Mr. Wiggles, Not a Compliment, and Big Sexy

In the discussion (1)
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  • Snicklefritz, Bong Mitzvah, Pineapple Express, I’m Done with the Woods, Mr. Wiggles, Not a Compliment, and Big Sexy remain unranked choices.
1:29:23

The Neil McCauley “A Book about Metals” Award for Best Line from the Movie

“You just got killed by a Daewoo Lanos, motherfucker”

“You just got killed by a Daewoo Lanos, motherfucker”

In the discussion (1)
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  • “Crazy about murdering people,” “I could talk about euthanasia all day,” “because I’m in the dumpster already,” the jaw-pulling memory, phone smashing, and the cop-driving warning are preserved alternatives.
1:31:21

Picking Nits

Dale meeting Angie, insufficiently red eyes, the family fleeing home, process-server anger, easy police escape, expos...

Dale meeting Angie, insufficiently red eyes, the family fleeing home, process-server anger, easy police escape, exposed farm ventilation, unmentioned cannabis fire, and beer with milk

In the discussion (7)
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  • The film never explains how an aimless process server meets a high-school student.
  • The actors behave high but rarely look physically high despite constant smoking.
  • Angie’s family would call police rather than obey Dale and hide in a motel.
  • The hosts debate whether recipients would actually insult the process server rather than the litigant.
  • A smashed cop car should bring backup and helicopters before the heroes escape.
  • Huge air intakes reveal the farm, and the finale omits any payoff from burning the world’s best weed.
  • Angie’s father drinks Newcastle and milk together.
1:36:45

Sequel, Prequel, Limited Series, or All-Black Remake

A Red spinoff or Ted Jones rise-to-power series

A Red spinoff or Ted Jones rise-to-power series

In the discussion (2)
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  • The mock sequel sends Dale and Saul to assassinate Woody Harrelson to stop legalization from destroying Red’s business.
  • A Ted and Rosie Perez prequel could explore their chemistry, Red’s recruitment, and the drug organization.
1:39:50

Probably Unanswerable Questions

A possible Dumb and Dumber homage; whether Pineapple Express is sativa; the real strain’s quality

A possible Dumb and Dumber homage; whether Pineapple Express is sativa; the real strain’s quality

In the discussion (2)
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  • Two idiots pursued by two hitmen, an overestimating boss, disguises, and the shared Bubby actress form a substantial but unconfirmed homage case.
  • The panel assumes sativa and invites firsthand reports on the strain.
1:41:36

Is This Movie Better With…?

Danny Trejo as Ted’s rival or partner; Kathryn Hahn; Samuel L. Jackson

Danny Trejo as Ted’s rival or partner; Kathryn Hahn; Samuel L. Jackson

In the discussion (1)
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1:42:21

Just One Oscar

Danny McBride gets the one Oscar for supporting actor, with Franco as the only hesitation.

Danny McBride gets the one Oscar for supporting actor, with Franco as the only hesitation.

In the discussion (1)
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  • Danny McBride gets the one Oscar for supporting actor, with Franco as the only hesitation.
1:42:36

Best Double Feature

This Is the End, Tropic Thunder, and Reefer Madness
1:43:14

The Andy and Red – Zihuatanejo Award for What Happens the Next Day?

Arrest for the cop car; Red dying in transit; Red and Bubby dying together

Arrest for the cop car; Red dying in transit; Red and Bubby dying together

In the discussion (1)
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  • The heroes are arrested for the cop car, Red dies in transit, or Red and Bubby die together; his closing bodily-warning line remains the comic button.
1:43:57

The Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson

Do not let your drug dealer upsell you

Do not let your drug dealer upsell you

In the discussion (1)
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  • Do not let your drug dealer upsell you; the claim that bongs filter addiction is exposed as false within Saul’s own joint-heavy behavior. — Craig Horlbeck
1:44:13

What Piece of Memorabilia Would You Want From This Movie?

A preserved cross joint

A preserved cross joint

In the discussion (1)
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  • A preserved cross joint wins over the prostitute pistol and Red’s kimono.
1:44:40

Who Won the Movie?

Danny McBride

Danny McBride

In the discussion (2)
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  • One speaker chooses McBride and another audibly agrees; the third speaker names two possible answers without casting a final candidate ballot.
  • Rogen may eventually be remembered by later generations as a cannabis entrepreneur more than as an actor, strengthening but not winning his case.
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Danny McBride
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Danny McBride

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