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Star Wars: A New Hope

What’s Aged the Worst?

Retitling, representation, the reduced Fox slate, franchise alterations, and mishandled extensions dominate the criticism.

In the discussion (10)
Approx. transcript time · 00:52:19Read transcript
  • Adding A New Hope to the original Star Wars title is called unnecessary and irritating.
  • The movie is called a 'big sausage party' with only Leia and Luke's aunt identified as women.
  • The film’s assumption that fascism is obviously bad is jokingly said to feel less secure in 2025.
  • After Star Wars succeeded, 20th Century Fox reducing its annual slate from about twenty films to seven is criticized as a lost opportunity.
  • The original story’s incestuous tension is awkward in retrospect, though Luke does not know Leia is his sister.
  • A Marvel comic run ending after 107 issues is treated as a missed opportunity for continued storytelling.
  • Disney’s early rejection of the screenplay is contrasted with its later purchase of Lucasfilm for four billion dollars.
  • The film could have used more than twelve minutes of Vader, though his limited screen time may strengthen him.
  • Contemporary criticism of the film’s whiteness and of black imagery being attached to Vader is preserved as historical reception.
  • The special-edition alterations, Holiday Special, and empty early-bird toy boxes are cited as mishandled parts of the movie’s afterlife.
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Star Wars: A New Hope

Van Lathan Award for Did This Movie Need More Black People?

The lack of Black characters matters, while one participant also values fantasy as a temporary escape from real racial burdens.

In the discussion (3)
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  • Seeing Black people in fantasy is described as reassurance that imagined worlds have not erased them.
  • The counterpoint says this particular fantasy offers relief from thinking about real-world racial barriers.
  • Chasing Amy is praised for satirizing the racial politics of the original Star Wars.
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Star Wars: A New Hope

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

An accidental Luke–Leia sexual relationship; Han mistreats Luke; Star Wars is great art and a damaging industrial precedent

Flex pick · Van Lathan

In the discussion (4)
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  • The trilogy is said to become darker and better if Luke and Leia unknowingly have sex before learning they are siblings.
  • The imagined guilt is argued to give Luke a stronger pull toward the dark side.
  • Star Wars is called both one of the best films ever and one of the worst things to happen to Hollywood because of its industrial influence.
  • Han is called a cock-blocking dickhead who pursues Leia and tells Luke not to get cocky after Luke's success.
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Star Wars: A New Hope

Casting What-Ifs

The original casting search is reviewed across Luke, Leia, Han, Obi-Wan, Vader, Chewbacca, and physical Vader.

In the discussion (10)
Approx. transcript time · 01:05:10Read transcript
  • Lucas and De Palma auditioned actors together for Star Wars and Carrie, producing overlapping candidates.
  • John Travolta, William Cat, Robby Benson, Kurt Russell, and Charles Martin Smith are among the discussed Luke possibilities.
  • Andrew Stevens is said to have competed with Hamill for both The Oregon Trail and Star Wars.
  • Karen Allen, Amy Irving, Cindy Williams, Linda Pearl, and Joe Foster are discussed as Leia possibilities, with uncertainty around some claims.
  • Russell is said to have auditioned for both Luke and Han because his age placed him between the roles.
  • Jack Nicholson is an intriguing Han thought experiment, while James Kahn and Al Pacino later claimed to have declined the role.
  • Richard Dreyfuss was reportedly considered for the voice of one of the droids.
  • The lead actor from many Kurosawa films reportedly declined the mentor role because he feared it would diminish samurai cinema.
  • Orson Welles was considered for Vader’s voice but rejected as too recognizable; James Earl Jones was used without an initial screen credit.
  • Peter Mayhew and David Prowse were offered a choice between Chewbacca and physical Vader and selected the good and bad roles respectively.
In the discussion (4)
Approx. transcript time · 01:10:38Read transcript
  • Vader is selected for dominating the film in roughly twelve minutes.
  • The cantina ensemble and Greedo are proposed as compact alternatives.
  • The digitally inserted CGI gangster is rejected aesthetically but acknowledged as a significant one-scene character.
  • The officer choked by Vader is the final alternate.
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Star Wars: A New Hope

Half-Assed Internet Research

The research block covers an early Han design, Lucas’s directing style, crew resistance, practical discomfort, the lost cut, and studio notes.

In the discussion (7)
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  • An early script version made Han Solo a large green-skinned monster with gills.
  • Carrie Fisher recalled that Lucas gave little actor direction beyond faster or more intense.
  • The British crew reportedly disliked Lucas enough to stop promptly at quitting time even in the middle of a setup.
  • Hamill’s line about not seeing through the helmet was retained because he actually could not see.
  • The Chewbacca suit became foul after remaining wet following the trash-compactor sequence.
  • An early multi-hour assembly contained much more of Luke on Tatooine before later editors substantially tightened it.
  • Studio executives wanted Chewbacca to wear shorts, a note the panel considers disastrous.
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Star Wars: A New Hope

Apex Mountain

Science-fiction movies, galaxy adventures, fictional mythology, Mark Hamill, 20th Century Fox, and Apex categories: yes

Flex pick · Craig Horlbeck

In the discussion (11)
Approx. transcript time · 01:15:55Read transcript
  • Lucas’s apex is placed around 1981 after Empire and Raiders, though selling Lucasfilm for four billion dollars is another candidate.
  • Star Wars is judged an apex for science-fiction movies, galaxy adventures, and film-created fictional mythology.
  • The movie is accepted as Mark Hamill’s apex and a possible early apex for Carrie Fisher.
  • John Williams is difficult to pin to one apex, but Star Wars is preferred over later cultural competitors.
  • James Earl Jones is placed closer to Field of Dreams, Coming to America, or Mufasa than to his uncredited Vader voice.
  • Harrison Ford receives an explicit apex check and is rejected because his apex had already been named earlier.
  • The movie is an apex for 20th Century Fox because profits and stock value rose sharply.
  • The film is credited with beginning the cultural ascent of nerd fandom rather than representing its final apex in 1977.
  • Its sound effects remain exceptional, including Vader breathing, TIE fighters, droids, and lightsabers.
  • The saga is called a leading story of absentee fathers because Vader reappears only after Luke becomes powerful.
  • The film is declared the apex of Apex Mountain categories because so many people, crafts, objects, and institutions peak around it.
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