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In the discussion (6)
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  • Joe Morton’s therapist is nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • Jody is proposed and debated as possibly too substantial because she is effectively the fourth lead. — Bill Simmons
  • Madison is proposed because the ghost has no spoken lines. — Bill Simmons
  • Miranda Otto’s Lord of the Rings role makes her recognizable to franchise viewers, while one participant says the reference means nothing to him. — Bill Simmons
  • A participant reports watching the regular Lord of the Rings trilogy one film per day with Liz’s two brothers. — Chris Ryan
  • Another participant recommends watching only the extended editions and calls the series one of the three best trilogies. — Bill Simmons
What Lies Beneath

Recasting Couch

Directors: De Palma, Fincher, or Lyne. Norman: Richard Gere. Cellist: unresolved.

In the discussion (6)
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  • Laura Sangiacomo is proposed for Jody. — Chris Ryan
  • The director rendered as BDP is proposed for a more sexual version with longer camera moves.
  • David Fincher is proposed, with Panic Room cited as a nearby version of the material. — Mallory Rubin
  • The director rendered as Adrian Line is proposed for a hornier supernatural version. — Mallory Rubin
  • The actor rendered as Richard Gear is proposed as Norman. — Mallory Rubin
  • Kelly Preston is considered and rejected; the discussion cannot settle on a replacement cellist.
What Lies Beneath

Half-Assed Internet Research

Michelle Pfeiffer’s fear of water and long bathtub shoots.

In the discussion (4)
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  • The episode reports that Pfeiffer feared water and said she had to lie in the bathtub for five hours at a time.
  • They ask how warm the bathtub had to be and whether it needed repeated reheating.
  • A participant says she listens to The Watch in the bath and prefers its opening eight minutes. — Chris Ryan
  • The discussion spins into what podcast Claire might hear in a modern version. — Bill Simmons
What Lies Beneath

Apex Mountain

Cinematic Vermont, tentatively; no firm consensus.

In the discussion (4)
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  • Pfeiffer, Ford, ghost movies, cheating-husband comeuppance movies, haunted-house movies, Zemeckis, and the waterlogged corpse are considered and rejected or questioned. — Bill Simmons
  • Cinematic Vermont is proposed and receives tentative approval. — Bill Simmons
  • Grown Ups 2 is jokingly offered as a competing Vermont answer. — Bill Simmons
  • Grown Ups 2 is called good, and a participant says his children love it and the family owns it. — Bill Simmons
In the discussion (5)
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  • Hanks is chosen for the value of playing against his trusted image in a Zemeckis movie. — Bill Simmons
  • Cruise is chosen for the evil turn, sex scene, possession reaction, and physical climax. — Mallory Rubin
  • Hanks is defended as stronger counter-programming, while Cruise’s Eyes Wide Shut role is used against repeating another troubled marriage.
  • Cruise is defended as likely to intensify the role and perform the water and vehicle stunts. — Bill Simmons
  • The final tally is explicitly called a rare two-to-two tie. — Bill Simmons
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Best Hang / Worst Hang

Decent dinner or party guests; difficult double date.

In the discussion (4)
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  • The couple is initially judged a good dinner date, especially if Claire has drinks. — Bill Simmons
  • A double date is rejected because Norman would discuss his father and Claire would fixate on the haunting.
  • A larger party is preferred because Claire’s blackout and car accident would create lasting conversation. — Chris Ryan
  • The couple is jokingly called a great hang only if they are swinging. — Chris Ryan
What Lies Beneath

Picking Nits

Disappearing neighbors; fence; dock evidence; Caitlin’s silence; initials; missing Cooper; traceable drug; toe-and-shower escape.

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  • Warren and Mary disappearing after forty minutes is called an overextended red herring; one should have returned during the climax.
  • Peeking over the fence and cutting wrists is called unnecessary because the ungated lawns can be walked around.
  • Norman is mocked for dumping Madison’s belongings directly beside his own dock despite having a boat. — Bill Simmons
  • The locations and disposal method for Madison’s body, car, and jewelry box are questioned, including whether the car was backed into a boat entrance and why the evidence spans the dock and bridge area. — Chris Ryan
  • Caitlyn is criticized for never checking on her parents over the apparent weeks after starting college. — Bill Simmons
  • Madison repeatedly typing only her initials is called inefficient when she could name herself or accuse Norman directly.
  • Cooper’s disappearance during the final forty minutes is questioned because the dog might have interrupted the attack.
  • Norman’s use of a potentially traceable laboratory paralytic is called another sign of sloppy murder planning. — Mallory Rubin
  • Claire’s partly paralyzed foot pulling the cord and using the shower head to turn the hot-water knob is judged physically implausible.
  • One participant concludes that Claire should have drowned. — Bill Simmons
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Sequel, Prequel, Limited Series, or All-Black Remake

All-Black cast, tentatively; prestige television with flashbacks.

In the discussion (3)
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  • An all-Black cast version is proposed and receives tentative interest as a Tubi movie. — Chris Ryan
  • A prestige television version is proposed, with the amount of flashback and supernatural material left as key choices. — Mallory Rubin
  • Fergie the Florist, Wayne, Buffalo Bill, Byron Mayo, Dan Orlovsky, and William Brimley are proposed in a joking cast. — Mallory Rubin
What Lies Beneath

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Ouija board; Claire’s future; police; Adamant; mushroom tea; Madison’s delay and braid; haunting without a bathtub.

In the discussion (7)
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  • Why anyone would use a Ouija board is asked again. — Bill Simmons
  • Claire is proposed as an unusually desirable widow despite severe trust issues. — Mallory Rubin
  • The absence of further law-enforcement questions after the climax is questioned. — Mallory Rubin
  • Whether Norman could have bought time by agreeing to visit Adamant is debated.
  • Whether Claire’s supernatural experience could be a side effect of Jody’s mushroom tea is asked. — Chris Ryan
  • Why Madison waited a year, whether Claire missed earlier signs, and what the braid changes are questioned. — Bill Simmons
  • How Madison could haunt the renovated house if Norman had removed the bathtub is asked. — Bill Simmons
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