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  • The flex list ranks body counts and consequences; Death Wish is fifth, with a joke about its total body count across the series.
  • The Equalizer is fourth: Denzel's character wipes out a Russian mob over three movies.
  • Taken is third; its hero describes his own particular set of skills instead of having someone else explain them, a self-promoter compared with Trautman in Rambo.
  • First Blood is second: Rambo was not bothering anyone, and in an alternate universe he runs an Italian restaurant.
  • John Wick is first: after the dog and car, he kills 439 people in seven months, one of the worst mistakes in the history of movie organized crime.
  • Rebel Ridge gets a shout-out as another that missed the list.
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Apex Mountain

Del Frisco's Steakhouse: this movie; Philadelphia law movies: Philadelphia; vigilante movies: Death Wish; Leslie Bibb: Talladega Nights

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  • Earlier aside: the film 'really might be Apex Mountain' for the long con, with ten years of planning; this is hedged.
  • Butler's apex is placed in the mid-2000s coming out of 300, and Foxx's after Ray and Collateral.
  • Leslie Bibb's apex is Talladega Nights, with White Lotus mentioned.
  • For Philadelphia law movies Philadelphia still holds it; for vigilante movies it is Death Wish; for 'Eminence Front' it is probably still the first episode of Entourage.
  • Del Frisco's Steakhouse: 'definitely'.
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Picking Nits

Clyde opening the door without the peephole; criminals randomly targeting a secret CIA killer's family; Nick shaking Darby's hand on camera; no camera in Clyde's cell; Clyde not noticing the warehouse break-in; a DA and a cop handling bombs; the uninventive final briefcase bomb; beating Clyde back to his cell; a prisoner running an underground base

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  • Moved up from the picks: a master planner opens the door at night to strangers without looking through the peephole.
  • Two random criminals happened to attack the family of a secret CIA killer; a smarter version would make the crime itself revenge.
  • Nick shaking Darby's hand in front of reporters is the dumbest thing he does.
  • Nobody puts a camera in Clyde's isolation cell once things start exploding.
  • Clyde would have noticed the warehouse break-in, and a DA and a cop would not know how to handle bombs.
  • The final crime, a briefcase bomb under a table with no camera on it, is the least inventive; a purpose beyond carnage or a Bodyguard-style camera twist would have been better.
  • How Nick and the cops reach Clyde's cell before he does is unclear.
  • The biggest nit: a prisoner running a climate-controlled, wired underground base like Bruce Wayne makes no sense.
  • The blanket-over-pillow decoy is weak next to a favorite Eastwood prison-escape film with molded fake heads, which CR is said to love and which might be done on the show.
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What’s Aged the Worst?

Missing Philly accents; no Philly sports references; Viola Davis wasted as the mayor; Nick

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  • The Philly accents are nonexistent; nobody tried.
  • There are no Philly sports references even though the Phillies were, a speaker thinks, in the 2009 World Series; a villain could have mentioned a Phillies game or Chase Utley.
  • Viola Davis is wasted as the mayor in about three scenes, used as a legitimizer, as in one scene in Out of Sight.
  • Nick: 'every time I watch it... Nick sucks'.
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  • The mayor swears Nick in as the new DA while scolding him for all the damage.
  • Nick is called the worst DA ever for shaking a rapist's hand on television; promoting him is like the Jaguars hiring Urban Meyer and then making him GM.
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The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

Sarah deserved to die; Gerard Butler should have been James Bond instead of Daniel Craig

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  • One participant did not prepare a take because he did not know he would be in that chair.
  • Take: Sarah deserved to die; the hosts joke she was headed for a relationship with Nick.
  • Hottest take: Gerard Butler should have been James Bond instead of Daniel Craig 20 years ago, at a similar career point, in Casino Royale or Skyfall.
  • The take is called entertaining 'total bullshit' and a 'dazzling putrid take' given Craig's success; without Bond, Butler might not have made Den of Thieves, and Daniel Craig could have been in this film.
  • Objections: Butler's brand is brutality while Bond needs suaveness, and his Scottish delivery; he does fit the Sean Connery man's-man Bond, but the objector concludes it is terrible.
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Casting What-Ifs

Butler and Foxx originally in each other's roles; Frank Darabont originally set to direct

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  • Casting what-ifs opens with 'we mentioned the Butler Fox thing'.
  • Foxx was first set to play Clyde and Butler the lawyer until Butler pushed to flip, as the hosts said earlier.
  • The hosts say Frank Darabont was supposed to direct and left over creative differences, joking he could not do another movie with tunnels to jail cells; they say he later sued AMC over The Walking Dead.
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  • Colm Meaney is offered: the sidekick who survives along with Foxx, known from Star Trek and Mystery, Alaska; Bruce McGill 'is Bruce McGill'.
  • The warden was played by President Logan from 24; the speaker looked up the name, Gregory Itzin, and says he wins.
  • Michael Kelly, as Clyde's former co-worker, is also offered, but is said to have ascended past That Guy status with Landman and Lioness.
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  • A Philadelphia 'shadow sequel' with Denzel and Tom Hanks is pitched; another speaker had the same idea as a big reveal.
  • Options: Denzel as Clyde and Hanks as Nick, or Hanks finally breaking bad, ripped and tattooed.
  • Denzel has made nine versions of this movie without making this one.
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