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The Bourne Identity

The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

The transcript-observed 'Atabisi' wins over Gabriel Mann and an unnamed third assassin; the performer identity remains unresolved without recording or external evidence.

In the discussion (3)
Approx. transcript time · 00:59:24Read transcript
  • The unnamed third assassin is recognized as a possible That Guy without a resolved actor identity.
  • Gabriel Mann is a finalist based on Outside Providence, Summer Catch, and a late-1990s to mid-2000s supporting run.
  • Atabisi is the clear That Guy winner.
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The Ruffalo / Hanna / Rubinek / Partridge Overacting Award

The actor discussed through the observed character forms 'Wambosie' and 'Adabisi' also wins the overacting award; the performer identity remains unresolved.

In the discussion (6)
Approx. transcript time · 01:00:11Read transcript
  • Wombosi wins because the performance is dialed up like the actor's Oz character after many cups of coffee.
  • The panel quotes his threats and says the heightened delivery does not work in the movie.
  • The additional morgue scenes are considered unnecessary, even though the story needs a reason for Bourne to abandon the mission.
  • The assassination-target plotline is called the worst part of the movie and almost fully removable.
  • The panel says the performer moved into movies and peaked with Lost before reportedly being written out much earlier than planned.
  • The panel suggests that being a little too wacky may have limited how well his later career worked out.
In the discussion (4)
Approx. transcript time · 01:01:43Read transcript
  • Clive Owen is one participant's choice even though he speaks only one sentence.
  • Castel is the other participant's winner for bringing relentless energy during two minutes of screen time.
  • Castel's impact is compared with a bench player producing points, rebounds, and flagrant fouls in limited minutes.
  • Clive Owen remains an acceptable alternate to the participant who chooses Castel.
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Recasting Couch

The proposals are Cole Hauser or Casey Affleck for Clive Owen's role, Amy Adams or the transcript-observed 'Chloe 70' for Julia Stiles's role, and Al Pacino for Conklin.

In the discussion (7)
Approx. transcript time · 01:02:36Read transcript
  • Cole Houser is proposed as a Damon-connected replacement for Clive Owen.
  • Casey Affleck is another proposal for Clive Owen's role.
  • Amy Adams is proposed as a replacement for Julia Stiles.
  • The Julia Stiles role is described as thankless, which makes it suitable for a stronger alternate performer.
  • Chloe 70 is the observed transcript form of the preferred alternate for Julia Stiles because the role seems perfect for her.
  • Al Pacino is proposed as Conklin during the period when his style was becoming self-parody.
  • Pacino's ability to tackle Henry Rollins in Heat is used to answer concerns about him physically challenging Bourne.
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Half-Assed Internet Research

Research covers Damon's stunts and combat training, the red bag, the death count, Liman's family history, Prague locations, Swiss-bank tropes, and Tony Gilroy's later scripts.

In the discussion (13)
Approx. transcript time · 01:04:36Read transcript
  • Damon performed many stunts after three months of weapons, boxing, and martial-arts training.
  • He performed the hand-to-hand combat and climbed the safe-house walls.
  • The red bag later appears as a hanging planter in Marie's scooter-rental shop.
  • The panel counts eight deaths in the film.
  • Liman's father served as chief counsel during the Iran-Contra hearings.
  • Chris Cooper's character was allegedly modeled on Oliver North because Liman's father interrogated him.
  • Much of the film was shot in Prague while representing Switzerland and Paris.
  • The panel questions whether Swiss banks are as anonymous and permissive as movie convention suggests.
  • Tony Gilroy made a one-draft, no-notes, no-rewrites deal for the third film and was paid an amount Damon called exorbitant.
  • Damon publicly called that draft unreadable and embarrassing while blaming the studio for accepting the deal.
  • Gilroy later directed the non-Damon franchise entry.
  • The panel speculates that making the non-Damon entry helped prompt Damon and Greengrass to return for Jason Bourne.
  • One participant ranks Identity above Supremacy, Legacy, and Ultimatum despite calling Supremacy technically better made.
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Apex Mountain

The panel makes cases for Matt Damon, Franka Potente, amnesia, and small-car chases; Damon is treated as a multiple-apex star rather than receiving one uncontested answer.

In the discussion (7)
Approx. transcript time · 01:08:57Read transcript
  • The film has a plausible Matt Damon apex case because it turns him into a global action star and supports the next twenty years of his career.
  • Good Will Hunting and The Martian are acknowledged as competing Damon peaks.
  • Damon is ultimately described as having multiple Apex Mountains.
  • Franco Patente receives an unqualified positive verdict.
  • Amnesia receives a strong case when the forgotten identity turns out to be an elite assassin rather than an ordinary person.
  • Mekinos receives a direct no verdict.
  • Small-car chases receive an apex case, with The Italian Job offered as another nominee.
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Picking Nits

The panel questions Bourne's survival and recovery, Paris geography, Marie staying with him, killing Clive Owen's character, and the unrealized chance to make that assassin a recurring rival.

In the discussion (13)
Approx. transcript time · 01:11:00Read transcript
  • Bourne surviving unconscious in the sea after two back wounds is the first major nitpick.
  • His rapid recovery and ability to work on the fishing boat and fight assassins are also questioned.
  • Liman admitted that the Paris car chase uses streets that do not connect logically.
  • The geographic mistake is compared with illogical Boston routes in Blown Away.
  • Marie not fleeing a dangerous stranger at the first opportunity is questioned.
  • Marie is quickly shown on a wanted poster and is aiding and abetting an assassin, making it harder to untangle herself as she falls for him.
  • The panel asks whether killing Clive Owen's assassin wasted a possible recurring adversary for the franchise.
  • The alternatives are for the assassin to fake his death, get away wounded, or team up with Bourne to take the whole thing down.
  • The Carlos the Jackal antagonist from the Ludlum book is offered as a model for an equally powerful recurring assassin.
  • Karl Urban is described as effectively replacing Clive Owen's assassin function in the next film.
  • Clive Owen is reported to have been expected to become James Bond.
  • The Clive Owen discussion broadens into uncertainty about why his apparent path to major stardom did not last.
  • Inside Man and Closer are cited as evidence of Owen's leading-man ability.
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Sequel, Prequel, Limited Series, or All-Black Remake

The participants enthusiastically support a ten-episode version if it preserves this film's style.

In the discussion (3)
Approx. transcript time · 01:17:29Read transcript
  • The direct answer to a ten-episode Netflix version is an enthusiastic yes.
  • One participant would watch as much Bourne material as possible if it were shot like this film.
  • The panel notes that they already tried to make Treadstone as a television version.
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Probably Unanswerable Questions

The questions compare Marie's hair lengths, imagine Josh Hamilton's character as Grover from Kicking and Screaming, and ask whether Matt Damon is cinema's best performer of a particular profane line.

In the discussion (5)
Approx. transcript time · 01:18:25Read transcript
  • Both participants prefer Marie's longer hair, although the shorter style is also praised.
  • The panel asks whether the movie is more fun if Josh Hamilton's character is secretly Grover from Kicking and Screaming.
  • The imagined story has Grover stay in Europe after heartbreak and take a data-entry job that leads to Conklin.
  • A later question asks whether Damon is the greatest actor at delivering the words 'fuck it.'
  • Examples from Rounders and this film lead the panel to answer that Damon probably is the best at that delivery.
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What Piece of Memorabilia Would You Want From This Movie?

The choices are Marie's red Mini and Bourne's red bag with its Paris-apartment props.

In the discussion (3)
Approx. transcript time · 01:19:54Read transcript
  • One participant chooses Marie's small red car.
  • The other chooses the red bag and the props Bourne pours onto the desk in Paris.
  • Adam Savage of MythBusters is reported to own that bag and its props.
In the discussion (3)
Approx. transcript time · 01:21:19Read transcript
  • The first winner response is Matt Damon.
  • The second participant immediately agrees with Matt Damon.
  • The panel calls the choice easy and closes after saying the film is a good and great movie.
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Most Rewatchable Scene

No consensus: the rescue, Rich Purnell explanation, early farming/problem-solving, and the Starman montage were the leading choices.

In the discussion (11)
Approx. transcript time · 00:34:32Read transcript
  • The opening storm was praised for beginning the plot immediately.
  • Watney blowing himself up and deadpanning about the excess oxygen was nominated.
  • Watney establishing text contact with NASA was nominated.
  • The potato farm exploding was nominated as a heartbreaking reversal.
  • The David Bowie “Starman” montage was nominated for making an obvious song choice work.
  • The final rescue was nominated for sustaining suspense even though Watney’s survival was expected.
  • The reunion was criticized for ending too abruptly and omitting a needed moment between Watney and Lewis.
  • Watney’s final solve-one-problem-at-a-time speech was praised as the movie’s lesson.
  • The Rich Purnell stapler demonstration was selected by one host.
  • The early water-making, farming, and rationing sequence was selected by another host as the movie’s soul.
  • The rescue was selected by another host.
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