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Goodfellas

Who Won the Movie?

Goodfellas The Rewatchables

Martin Scorsese wins through three explicit choices; Pesci, De Niro, and Liotta are discussed as alternatives, followed by a debate over whether Scorsese’s Oscar loss helped his later stature.

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  • Three audible choices explicitly select Martin Scorsese.
  • Pesci, De Niro, and Liotta are discussed as plausible alternatives if the film were not itself one of the great American movies.
  • The panel asks whether losing Best Director for Goodfellas helped build the later campaign to recognize Scorsese.
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Goodfellas

Top Ten List

Goodfellas The Rewatchables

A participant presents ten life lessons drawn from Goodfellas; the machine transcript skips the fourth ordinal and then adds a bonus lesson.

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Approx. transcript time · 00:29:08Read transcript
  • The segment is introduced as the ten best lessons from Goodfellas, with the list deferred until after an ad break.
  • Lesson number one is not to kill a made man.
  • After a large heist, the advice is to avoid buying anything conspicuous and to lie low.
  • Another lesson says to rob an airport when money is needed.
  • The machine transcript jumps from lesson number one to an explicit lesson number five; no fourth ordinal is inferred.
  • Lesson number five is not to make a mob boss a silent restaurant partner because the partner will steal from the business and ultimately destroy it.
  • A later lesson says not to use cocaine while also selling cocaine.
  • If someone is going to be murdered, the list grimly advises preventing an open-casket funeral.
  • The list repeats the rule never to inform on friends and always to keep quiet.
  • Seeing a new boyfriend assault someone is offered as a reason not to remain with him.
  • A crew member is warned that nobody announces a plan to kill them.
  • A bonus lesson advises against divorce and says to make the relationship work.
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Rocky IV

Most Delightfully and Ridiculously Improbable Moment

Rocky IV The Rewatchables

The panel split among Rocky repeatedly rising, the Soviet crowd turning on Drago, and Gorbachev’s standing ovation.

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  • Rocky taking a Christmas fight in Russia for no money without telling Adrian was nominated.
  • Rocky climbing a purported 20,000-foot mountain in a light jacket and running boots was nominated.
  • Rocky surviving roughly 75 knockdowns was nominated.
  • The Soviet crowd turning on Drago was nominated.
  • Gorbachev giving Rocky a standing ovation after the speech was nominated.
  • One choice was Rocky repeatedly getting up after implausibly many knockdowns.
  • The Soviet crowd cheering Rocky became the shared leading objection to plausibility.
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Rocky IV

Most Rewatchable Scene

Rocky IV The Rewatchables

No consensus: the combined training sequences, Drago–Rocky round two, and the larger fight/entrance sequence each received support.

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Approx. transcript time · 00:33:40Read transcript
  • The two training sequences together were the advance favorite and one final choice.
  • Creed’s “Living in America” entrance was nominated for James Brown, Drago’s confusion, and Apollo’s showmanship.
  • The full Drago–Creed fight was nominated, including the nicknames, glove touch, “throw the damn towel,” and “if he dies, he dies.”
  • The “you can’t win” confrontation with Adrian was nominated.
  • The Lamborghini “No Easy Way Out” montage was nominated.
  • Duke’s “Apollo was like my son” training speech was nominated.
  • The first old-school-versus-high-tech training sequence was nominated.
  • The second training sequence, with the mountain climb and “no pain,” was nominated.
  • Round two of Rocky–Drago was nominated for “he’s cut,” the tackle, and “he’s a man.”
  • Round fifteen was nominated for Drago’s collapse, the crowd turn, and “he’s chopping the Russian down.”
  • Rocky’s final speech and Gorbachev slow clap were nominated.
  • One host chose the nine-minute training and Adrian sequence; another chose the second round.
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Rocky IV

What’s Aged the Best?

Rocky IV The Rewatchables

Drago’s minimal dialogue, Rocky’s clothes, Paulie’s arc, the training contrast, montage density, opening credits, and Ivan Drago himself were praised.

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  • Drago’s six terse English lines remain iconic.
  • Rocky’s oversized jacket was praised.
  • Rocky wearing Cobra-style aviators to Apollo’s funeral was enjoyed as a specific mid-1980s choice.
  • Rocky’s Hugo Boss sweatshirts and Scorpion-like robe were praised.
  • Paulie’s arc from threatening brother-in-law to essential cut man was praised.
  • Adrian’s snake-shaped watch was singled out as exceptionally gaudy.
  • The natural-versus-steroids training montage remains effective despite its irony.
  • James Brown’s credit as “The Godfather of Soul” was enjoyed.
  • “Living in America” was reported as Brown’s first top-40 single in eleven years and the last of his career.
  • The film’s high-tech sports equipment looked ahead of its time.
  • Nearly 32 percent of the movie was reported to be montage.
  • Apollo’s later-unacknowledged son aged well because it enabled the Creed continuation.
  • The exploding Soviet and American gloves made the opening credits immediate and memorable.
  • Ivan Drago’s lasting screen presence was chosen as the strongest aged-best element.
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Rocky IV

What’s Aged the Worst?

Rocky IV The Rewatchables

Splintered patriotism, recycled footage, TV-delivered bad news, robot sexual jokes, reduced death impact, poor officiating/training, accents, continuity, and the Stallone–Nielsen relationship were discussed.

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  • The film’s uncomplicated patriotism felt less relatable in 2020.
  • Opening another sequel with recycled footage from the prior Rocky was criticized.
  • Characters discovering major news by accidentally seeing it on television felt dated.
  • Paulie’s sexualized robot dialogue was the central robot problem.
  • The robot itself was defended as essential mid-1980s texture and as a nod to Stallone’s son.
  • The hastily made Sports Illustrated and magazine covers looked sloppy.
  • Apollo’s death has less shock on repeat viewings than it did in 1985.
  • Drago repeatedly hit Apollo after the bell without sanction.
  • Rocky’s pre-fight coaching gave Apollo no useful boxing advice.
  • Rocky froze with the towel while Apollo absorbed extra punishment.
  • Brigitte Nielsen’s Russian accent was criticized.
  • Adrian initially refusing to accompany Rocky to Russia was criticized.
  • The anonymous color commentator was treated as a weak replacement for a recognizable boxing voice.
  • Apollo’s boxing gloves disappear between cuts before his exchange with Drago.
  • The Stallone–Nielsen relationship and rapid marriage/divorce became distracting production context.
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Rocky IV

Half-Assed Internet Research

Rocky IV The Rewatchables

Research covered real punches and injuries, the Weathers–Lundgren dispute, Italian dubbing, shooting locations, and Tony Burton’s chess strength.

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Approx. transcript time · 01:14:19Read transcript
  • Stallone and Lundgren agreed to hit each other for real.
  • Lundgren’s chest punch caused Stallone’s heart to swell against his breastbone.
  • Stallone’s blood pressure exceeded 200 and he was airlifted from Canada to a Santa Monica hospital.
  • Carl Weathers nearly left after Lundgren threw him too hard.
  • Filming stopped for four days while Stallone brokered a reconciliation.
  • The Italian “I break you in two” translation became a common phrase.
  • The Russia training scenes were filmed in Wyoming.
  • The Moscow fight was filmed at Vancouver’s PNE Agrodome.
  • Tony Burton was a strong chess player who reportedly beat Stanley Kubrick on The Shining set.
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