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The Neil McCauley “A Book about Metals” Award for Best Line from the Movie

There is no tomorrow, you can’t win, I pity the fool, pain, and dead meat form the short list.

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  • There is no tomorrow is offered first as a favorite.
  • You can’t win is another central candidate.
  • I pity the fool is another proposed favorite.
  • Pain is another proposed favorite.
  • Dead meat is another proposed favorite.
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The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

Tony Burton’s Duke is the main answer, with Jim Hill, Stu Nahan, Eddie Smith, and Stallone’s wife also discussed.

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  • Duke is favored because viewers knew the performer by that character for years.
  • Jim Hill is proposed for supplying an authentic Los Angeles sportscaster presence.
  • Stu Nahan is recalled from the Rocky films, Spicoli’s dream, and a Globetrotters episode of Gilligan’s Island.
  • Clubber’s cornerman Eddie Smith had a long career of brief television roles.
  • Stallone’s wife appears briefly as the groupie who kisses Rocky.
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Recasting Couch

Morgan Freeman is placed as Clubber’s trainer, Kevin Harlan as a fight announcer, and a young Mel Gibson is jokingly proposed for the rabbi.

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  • Morgan Freeman is proposed as Clubber’s trainer despite the need to deliver instructions quickly.
  • Kevin Harlan is proposed for the second fight’s play-by-play.
  • A young Mel Gibson is jokingly proposed as the rabbi at Mickey’s funeral.
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Half-Assed Internet Research

Research covers Stallone’s extreme diet, the Rocky statue, Mr. T’s mother, a discarded death plan, Ali’s house, and the film’s demo version of Eye of the Tiger.

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  • Stallone claimed 2.6 percent body fat, a 155-pound weight, ten egg whites and toast, fruit every third day, and several kinds of daily training.
  • Three Rocky statues were made, and Philadelphia officials moved one away from the museum steps after deciding it was a movie prop rather than art.
  • Mr. T claimed his mother walked out of the movie after criticizing the way Clubber spoke to Adrian.
  • Stallone told Roger Ebert in 1979 that a possible third film would stage a Coliseum fight and might end with Rocky’s death.
  • The movie’s exterior house is reported to have belonged to the boxer in Chicago.
  • The film uses an unreleased demo of Eye of the Tiger rather than the later commercial version.
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Apex Mountain

The panel places Stallone’s peak at First Blood, gives positive verdicts to Burt Young, Carl Weathers, Survivor, Stu Nahan, and LeRoy Neiman, and rejects or redirects several others.

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  • Stallone is moved to First Blood because the two 1982 hits gave him maximum ability to create later films.
  • Burt Young receives a positive verdict for balancing comedy, menace, and pathos, despite later contenders.
  • Talia Shire is moved to the first Rocky after The Godfather Part II.
  • For Mr. T, the verdict is “not till a team.”
  • Carl Weathers receives a positive verdict because he is in this movie more than in any other Rocky movie.
  • Hulk Hogan is rejected because later wrestling celebrity surpasses Thunderlips.
  • The Rocky statue is judged close but still behind the Statue of Liberty.
  • Survivor receives a positive verdict while its Rocky IV work is also praised.
  • Stu Nehan receives a yes.
  • LeRoy Neiman receives a positive verdict because he appears in a scene and his painting closes the film.
  • Burgess Meredith is moved to the first Rocky or his Penguin role.
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Picking Nits

The panel questions Thunderlips’s size and police assault, the selected opponents, the trainer’s medical care, missing Clubber material, fight logistics, and several training or timing details.

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  • Joe Sack and Big Yank Ball are singled out as opponent names that do not make sense.
  • Thunderlips’s stated 390-pound weight seems implausible for his visible size.
  • The panel asks whether Thunderlips would be arrested for striking six apparent police officers.
  • Rocky should suspect the selected opponents are weak during ten easy title defenses.
  • Doctors say the trainer needs a hospital immediately but allow the fighter to delay while he dies.
  • The movie misses opportunities to show Clubber as champion through talk-show or celebrity scenes.
  • A third Rocky-Clubber fight would have been commercially and competitively plausible after the rematch.
  • Rocky’s go-for-it answer at the second stare-down is judged a weak comeback even if period-appropriate.
  • The final round may run longer than three minutes, although another timing produces two minutes fifty-eight seconds.
  • Rocky’s sudden beach-race victory appears from nowhere after struggling throughout training.
  • The trainer predicts seven or eight rounds despite Rocky being unable to skip, punch, swim, or enter the ring properly.
  • The speeding limousine behaves as if Rocky is driving even though a chauffeur emerges to open Adrian’s door.
  • Apollo persuades Rocky to return too easily given that Mickey’s death is the whole source of his resistance.
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Probably Unanswerable Questions

Questions cover Clubber’s responsibility for Mickey, Mickey’s age, fight betting lines and location, Mickey’s last perception, the Rocky-Apollo friendship, performance-enhancing drugs, and the unseen private fight.

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  • The panel asks whether Clubber killed the trainer and predicts an involuntary-manslaughter case would fail because he already had heart problems.
  • The trainer says he is seventy-six in the first film and remains seventy-six on a tombstone three years later.
  • The first Clubber fight is estimated around Rocky minus 550 to minus 700 because public money would favor the established champion.
  • The rematch is estimated around Clubber minus 500 to minus 330, with Rocky’s popularity potentially shortening the line.
  • The second fight’s location is left ambiguous: the panel asks whether it is Vegas, Philly, L.A., Qatar, or Saudi Arabia.
  • A participant asks whether the dying trainer saw the beaten fighter’s face during his last brief opening of the eyes.
  • Rocky and Apollo are compared with famous friendships and partnerships, but the next film’s selfish Apollo behavior weakens the bromance case.
  • The panel asks whether Rocky used performance-enhancing drugs while rapidly adding ten knockouts during the early steroid era.
  • The result of the private Rocky-Apollo fight remains one of the story’s lasting unanswered questions.
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What Piece of Memorabilia Would You Want From This Movie?

The choices are the Thunderlips-fight Polaroid, Rocky’s yellow beach shorts, and the original LeRoy Neiman painting, with the statue and other props considered.

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  • The category opens with the pinball machine, painting, Apollo trunks, gym sign, limousine, and Rocky statue as possible objects.
  • The Thunderlips-fight Polaroid is one participant’s final choice.
  • The yellow beach-training shorts are another participant’s final choice.
  • The original LeRoy Neiman painting is the third final choice because it could hang as art in a home.
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Who Won the Movie?

Mr. T receives two winner ballots and Talia Shire one; Hulk Hogan is a strong alternate, while Stallone is recognized as indispensable but already established.

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  • Mr. T wins one ballot because his life went from being a bouncer into the stratosphere through this movie.
  • Talia Shire wins another for transforming Adrian from a quiet earlier character into the forceful beach-scene partner.
  • Hulk Hogan is considered but judged likely to become a wrestling star even without the film.
  • Mr. T receives the final ballot because Clubber is called the best sports-movie villain and led immediately to his television role.
  • Stallone is acknowledged as essential, but his success was already secure before this film.
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