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Tommy’s first sparring fight

Ryen Russillo: Tommy volunteering to spar and rapidly destroying Mad Dog is selected for its physical shock and front-desk details.

Bill Simmons: Tommy surrendering his pills when asking his father to train him is another choice.

Fight-worn gloves or trunks

Bill Simmons: The Walkman, Moby-Dick tape, thrown coins, and Tommy's entrance pullover are considered.

The film

Warrior (2011)

Directed by Gavin O'Connor · Sports

140 minutes

Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

Everything from the episode

In the order the hosts got to it. Open a row for the discussion.

28:57

Roger Ebert's review

In the discussion (2)
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  • The stated score is three stars. — Bill Simmons
  • The quoted review says this is a rare fight movie in which the audience does not want either fighter to lose. — Bill Simmons
54:40

Casting What-Ifs

The studio resisted Nick Nolte, Kurt Angle plays Koba, and several supporting roles drew on real combat-sports figures.

The studio resisted Nick Nolte, Kurt Angle plays Koba, and several supporting roles drew on real combat-sports figures.

This discussion recalls a choice from an earlier episode.

In the discussion (3)
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1:00:06

Recasting Couch

Stanley Tucci as the Sparta promoter

Stanley Tucci as the Sparta promoter

In the discussion (1)
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1:02:02

Half-Assed Internet Research

Injuries, the final song, an unused diner scene, Pittsburgh locations, remakes, and the release strategy

Injuries, the final song, an unused diner scene, Pittsburgh locations, remakes, and the release strategy

In the discussion (8)
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  • Hardy gained twenty-eight pounds and carried the muscle into his next major role. — Bill Simmons
  • Edgerton tore his MCL and fight photography paused for six weeks. — Bill Simmons
  • Hardy sustained a broken toe, ribs, and finger during production. — Bill Simmons
  • The writers chose the National's closing song before writing the final scene and looped it while shaping the action. — Bill Simmons
  • A Nolte diner scene earned a first-day crew ovation but did not enter the finished movie. — Bill Simmons
  • The Iraq scenes were filmed in a Pittsburgh parking lot. — Bill Simmons
  • The story was remade as Brothers in India and again under the same title in Russia. — Bill Simmons
  • The director wanted a slow platform release, while the wider launch failed and was quickly pulled. — Bill Simmons
1:07:48

Picking Nits

Tournament entry, scheduling, UFC competition, internet exposure, recovery, odds, and montage length

Tournament entry, scheduling, UFC competition, internet exposure, recovery, odds, and montage length

In the discussion (7)
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  • Both unknown brothers entering a sixteen-person five-million-dollar tournament so easily is questioned. — Bill Simmons
  • Consecutive-day fights would create unacceptable health risk. — Bill Simmons
  • A non-UFC promoter finding sixteen credible fighters in 2011 is debated. — Ryen Russillo
  • Tommy's desertion and the brothers' relationship should have surfaced online before the final. — Bill Simmons
  • Brendan fighting again immediately after the COBA bout is considered implausible. — Bill Simmons
  • A thousand-to-one price on a former UFC fighter in a sixteen-person field is rejected as impossible bookmaking risk. — Bill Simmons
  • The montages are long but defended as necessary and as a Rocky homage. — Bill Simmons
1:14:40

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Hardy’s possible star range, an alternate final, the broken shoulder, and real examples of fighting through injury

Hardy’s possible star range, an alternate final, the broken shoulder, and real examples of fighting through injury

In the discussion (4)
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  • Hardy is compared with DiCaprio to ask whether softer leading-man roles were ever plausible for him. — Ryen Russillo
  • A Koba-versus-Tommy final is rejected because the brothers’ fight resolves the family story without diminishing Tommy. — Ryen Russillo
  • The exact shoulder or elbow injury and whether a real commission would stop the fight are questioned. — Ryen Russillo
  • A real bout in which an arm broke before the fighter submitted is offered as evidence of extreme pain tolerance. — Ryen Russillo