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Gibb and Allison's future

Chris Ryan: The couple are predicted to have met too early for a permanent relationship because freshman-year changes and academic uncertainty would strain them.

Bill Simmons: One forecast has the relationship end after he drunkenly kisses someone else and she never forgives him; it may not survive the first summer.

Take the bus

Chris Ryan: The proposed lesson is to take the bus for the entire trip; the return journey and funding remain open practical questions.

The film

The Sure Thing (1985)

Directed by Rob Reiner · Comedy

91 minutes

Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

John Cusack Walter "Gib" Gibson
Daphne Zuniga Alison Bradbury
Viveca Lindfors Professor Taub
Nicollette Sheridan "The Sure Thing"
Tim Robbins Gary Cooper
Boyd Gaines Jason
Lisa Jane Persky Mary Ann Webster
Larry Hankin Trucker
Fran Ryan Lady in Car

Everything from the episode

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24:29

Roger Ebert's review

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  • The cited three-and-a-half-star review praises the film for treating its love story with thought, respect, and love. — Bill Simmons
27:32

Most Rewatchable Scene

Dive bar scene

Dive bar scene

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  • The dive-bar interlude is the final preferred scene. — Chris Ryan
  • Other favorites include the opening credits, quad football, the pool encounter, the Tim Robbins car ride, the accidental cuddle, the Hawaiian party, and the professor reading the final essay. — Chris Ryan
35:14

The most 1985 thing

Letters and cordless phones

Letters and cordless phones

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  • Long mailed letters to friends are selected as a defining 1985 detail. — Bill Simmons
  • The cordless-phone phrase, letters to an adult magazine, Culture Club poster, and physical ride bulletin board are additional 1985 candidates. — Bill Simmons
37:43

What’s Aged the Best?

Soundtrack and college life

Soundtrack and college life

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  • The soundtrack is praised as having aged well, with several featured songs named. — Bill Simmons
  • The film's vision of 1980s college life, including classes, parties, schedules, and Southern California campuses, is praised. — Bill Simmons
  • Young Cusack and the prospect of spending the next 40 years watching him are offered as having aged well. — Bill Simmons
42:42

The Amanda Dobbins Award for Best Piece of Real Estate

Malibu dream house

Malibu dream house

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  • The three-story Malibu beach house from Gibb's fantasies is the real-estate choice. — Bill Simmons
43:13

The Great Shot Gordo Award for Most Cinematic Shot

Wallet reveal

Wallet reveal

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  • The reveal of the wallet left in the bed is praised as especially well staged. — Chris Ryan
  • The dolly shot following Gibb beside the pool is another candidate. — Chris Ryan
44:16

The Slow Ride / Kid Cudi – Pursuit of Happiness Award for Best Needle Drop

Penny Lover

Penny Lover

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  • ‘Penny Lover’ during the slow dance is preferred, with ‘Infatuation’ and ‘You Might Think’ also considered. — Chris Ryan
44:34

The Neil McCauley “A Book about Metals” Award for Best Line from the Movie

Grambling exchange

Grambling exchange

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  • The exchange about Gibb playing football for Grambling is the quote choice. — Chris Ryan
44:58

The Butch’s Girlfriend Award for the Weakest Link in the Film

The Sure Thing; Allison’s boyfriend

The Sure Thing; Allison’s boyfriend

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  • The Sure Thing and Allison's boyfriend are criticized as caricatures who function mainly as plot props. — Chris Ryan
46:40

What’s Aged the Worst?

Hitchhiking and dated conventions

Hitchhiking and dated conventions

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  • The dated comic accent and using stars and outer space to humanize boys are criticized. — Bill Simmons
  • Walter Gibson's name, creative-writing workshops, and hitchhiking are raised as dated elements. — Bill Simmons
  • Traveling cross-country solely to pursue sex is considered obsolete in the era of dating apps. — Chris Ryan
50:06

The Ruffalo / Hanna / Rubinek / Partridge Overacting Award

John Cusack

John Cusack

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  • John Cusack's heightened hitchhiker performance is the choice and is considered necessary to the scene. — Bill Simmons
50:17

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

Gibb and Allison's future; 1980s teen-movie ranking; Daphne Zuniga's unrealized career path

Gibb and Allison's future; 1980s teen-movie ranking; Daphne Zuniga's unrealized career path

In the discussion (7)
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  • The couple are predicted to have met too early for a permanent relationship because freshman-year changes and academic uncertainty would strain them. — Chris Ryan
  • One forecast has the relationship end after he drunkenly kisses someone else and she never forgives him; it may not survive the first summer. — Bill Simmons
  • A conflicting forecast says they make it through most of college before he wants to be himself and do something else. — Chris Ryan
  • Risky Business and The Sure Thing are ranked first and second among 1980s teen movies, followed initially by The Breakfast Club, The Karate Kid, and Ferris Bueller's Day Off. — Chris Ryan
  • The Karate Kid is then removed from the teen-movie ranking because it is considered more a sports movie, leaving The Breakfast Club and Ferris Bueller's Day Off on the four-film list. — Bill Simmons
  • Daphne Zuniga is argued to have deserved Brat Pack membership and to have been preferable to Ally Sheedy in St. Elmo's Fire, The Breakfast Club, and Bad Boys. — Bill Simmons
  • One Crazy Summer is used to compare Demi Moore's role with the kind of part Daphne Zuniga played, prompting speculation that Zuniga might have had a career resembling Moore's. — Chris Ryan
53:26

Casting What-Ifs

Keep Daphne Zuniga as Allison

Keep Daphne Zuniga as Allison

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55:16

The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

Larry Hankin and Carmen Filpi

Larry Hankin and Carmen Filpi

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  • The trucker played by Larry Hankin is the leading choice; Carmen Flippy's bus-station character is also identified. — Bill Simmons
57:26

The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance

Vivica Lindfors

Vivica Lindfors

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58:19

Recasting Couch

No cast change

No cast change

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  • The cast is kept intact; the only proposed alteration is making the college's identity more specific. — Bill Simmons
58:57

Half-Assed Internet Research

Shared role and shotgun-beer anecdote

Shared role and shotgun-beer anecdote

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  • Robert Bauer is said to have played a character named Moek here and in This Is Spinal Tap. — Bill Simmons
  • The shotgun-beer scene is reported as an addition based on John Cusack telling Rob Reiner that it was one of his talents. — Bill Simmons
  • Gibb's jersey is identified as a Kangaroos rugby-league shirt chosen for its appearance. — Bill Simmons
1:00:07

Apex Mountain

Shotgunning beers

Shotgunning beers

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1:03:44

Cruise or Hanks?

Hanks and Spielberg

Hanks and Spielberg

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1:03:57

What role would Philip Seymour Hoffman play?

Lance

Lance

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1:04:25

Picking Nits

Logistics and ending

Logistics and ending

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  • Questions include how Gibb entered the truck unseen, why the Sure Thing was eager to meet him, whether Gibb was a virgin, and why the ending cuts away so abruptly. — Chris Ryan
  • Gibb's pajamas, the implausible amount and condition of his packed clothing, and the short time at the Hawaiian party are also criticized. — Chris Ryan
1:04:54

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Relationship and travel questions

Relationship and travel questions

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  • The discussion asks whether Gibb lied about his sexual history and is actually a virgin. — Chris Ryan
  • The discussion asks what credit-card bill Allison's father would receive after the trip. — Bill Simmons
1:08:09

Sequel, Prequel, Limited Series, or All-Black Remake

Prestige television or all-Black remake

Prestige television or all-Black remake

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  • A prestige television version and an all-Black remake are both entertained; the road-trip structure is seen as difficult to sustain across a series. — Chris Ryan
1:09:53

Just One Oscar

Rob Reiner

Rob Reiner

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1:10:33

What Piece of Memorabilia Would You Want From This Movie?

Final essay

Final essay

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  • The desired memorabilia is the essay read at the end, including the stained draft as an alternative. — Bill Simmons
1:10:51

The Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson

Take the bus

Take the bus

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  • The proposed lesson is to take the bus for the entire trip; the return journey and funding remain open practical questions. — Chris Ryan
1:11:20

Best Double Feature

Stand by Me and One Crazy Summer

Stand by Me and One Crazy Summer

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  • Stand by Me and One Crazy Summer are the two distinct double-feature selections. — Bill Simmons
1:11:34

Who Won the Movie?

Rob Reiner

Rob Reiner

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The episode opens as a tribute to Rob Reiner after his death and surveys his career, collaborators, casting judgment, and ability to balance comedy with emotional stakes.
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Mentions across The Rewatchables

Recorded movie reference

Top Gun

The Rewatchables · aired July 23, 2019

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