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The Karate Kid Part II

113 minutes

Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

Ralph Macchio Daniel LaRusso
Pat Morita Mr. Miyagi
Tamlyn Tomita Kumiko
Yuji Okumoto Chozen Toguchi
Charlie Tanimoto Miyagi Chōjun
Martin Kove John Kreese

The Karate Kid Part II | The Rewatchables

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Producer credits not yet identified.

Dr. Richard Kimble Inappropriate Body Award

Chozen receives the physique award after an eligibility objection.

In the discussion (2)
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  • The young karate fighter’s muscular appearance is praised, though his youth initially seems inconsistent with the older-doctor premise.
  • The award is granted anyway.

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Was Sato in the right?

In the discussion (3)
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  • The speakers argue that the arranged marriage and best-friend betrayal give Sato an understandable grievance, questioning Miyagi’s claims of honor.
  • They wish Miyagi and Sato exchanged blows rather than repeatedly avoiding a fight.
  • The woman’s unmarried life and Miyagi leaving again are criticized as an unhappy consequence.

Top Ten List

A1986 box-office top ten is recited, initially introduced as nine.

In the discussion (1)
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  • The order is Top Gun, Crocodile Dundee, Platoon, Karate Kid2, Star Trek4, Back to School, Aliens, The Golden Child, Ruthless People and Ferris Bueller’s Day Off. Only the first five are said to exceed100 million.

Roger Ebert's review

Rating not yet verified

Ebert reportedly gave a mild television thumbs-up; no written review or star rating is supplied.

In the discussion (2)
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  • The speakers report a mild TV thumbs-up praising Miyagi’s deeper story and Okinawa, and say there was no written review.
  • They wish he had written one and wonder whether Siskel covered it.

Most Rewatchable Scene

Opening confrontation, travel, grief and ice breaking are discussed.

In the discussion (4)
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  • The opening reprises a scripted ending of the first film but was reportedly newly filmed; Kreese’s abuse and Miyagi’s window dodge are memorable, though one speaker wants an actual fight.
  • Daniel joining the trip, the arrival trap and his consoling Miyagi after the father’s death are nominated.
  • The father’s abrupt death acting and apparent closeness in age to Miyagi are criticized.
  • The date leading to ice breaking is a childhood favorite, but Daniel’s ability and the convenient ice setup are questioned; the betting arithmetic is noted.

Most Rewatchable Scene

Final fight and hurricane are the two personal scene picks.

In the discussion (6)
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  • Miyagi clearing the attackers is discussed as limited but effective choreography; Morita’s movement is compared to an aging movie fighter.
  • The hurricane, log chop and child rescue are exciting despite implausible strength and the child’s assigned danger.
  • Drinking tea and taking the sticks out of her hair lead to a kiss, interrupted by a typhoon.
  • Sato’s changed attitude is touching and the final setting excellent, but the repetitive drum-technique closeups disappoint.
  • The final fight is one personal choice, especially the videogame-like setting.
  • The hurricane is the other personal choice for its danger, bravery and safe outcome.

The most "year the movie came out" thing

Panasonic televisions, earnestness, easy travel and a simple game adaptation.

In the discussion (2)
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  • The all-Panasonic shop, possibly showing Fame, and the uncynical honor-and-love story evoke1986.
  • A last-minute Northwest ticket and a1987 game built from flies/ice-breaking actions are additional period markers.

Gandolfini Butter on My Ass So It Pops in My Mouth Award

Sato’s log-chopping hobby and local business empire are pleasures.

In the discussion (3)
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  • Chopping the same log for decades is enjoyed as a peculiar leisure activity.
  • Airport advertisements for the dojo, construction, escorts and realty are compared to Brad Wesley’s town control in Roadhouse.
  • The business portfolio inspires joking career advice and an imagined visit to the escort business.

What’s Aged the Best?

The Weintraub production and Conti score inspire confidence.

In the discussion (1)
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  • The production/music-credit familiarity and prominent pan-flute score are praised, with Cobra Kai’s musical familiarity a comparison.

What’s Aged the Best?

Headbands, third-person speech, Glory of Love, romance and the quick ending are praised.

In the discussion (4)
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  • Headband fashion and Miyagi’s unselfconscious third-person speech are enjoyed.
  • Glory of Love is called a defining legacy of the film, with its Oscar loss to Take My Breath Away disputed.
  • The tea ceremony and Sato’s rapid change from villain to friend are enjoyed.
  • The roughly35 seconds from defeating the villain to credits is praised as an efficient1980s ending, compared to Sudden Death.

What’s Aged the Worst?

Kimiko being punched is the clearest choice.

In the discussion (3)
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  • The forceful punch is considered shocking and excessive, unlike the more familiar screen shove or slap.
  • Daniel and Kimiko have little sexual tension or fireworks despite her beauty.
  • The poster, Miyagi’s betrayal of Sato, Kreese abusing students, Miyagi’s fighting and the mentor relationship are additional objections.

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

Ali dated Troy Aikman; swap the order of sequels.

In the discussion (2)
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  • The UCLA quarterback boyfriend is jokingly identified as Troy Aikman using his transfer timeline; this is an invented character theory, not casting fact.
  • Swapping PartsII andIII would make the breakup and tournament chronology more coherent and leave Japan’s higher stakes for last.

Casting What-Ifs

Shue’s absence and the RockyIV music tradeoff.

In the discussion (3)
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  • Shue reportedly disliked being written out while studying at Harvard and would have returned; the speakers think she did fine afterward.
  • Conti reportedly chose this score over RockyIV, and Cetera’s song was reportedly rejected there for Hearts on Fire.
  • The musical choices are judged appropriate: a romance song fits here better than a revenge/workout film.

Recasting Couch

Give Elizabeth Shue a breakup scene.

In the discussion (1)
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  • A prom scene with the quarterback, Daniel storming out and Johnny Lawrence is proposed; Zabka’s tiny existing part is regretted.

Half-Assed Internet Research

Oahu filming, B.D. Wong, Kove’s injury claim and recurring music.

In the discussion (3)
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  • The Windward side of Oahu and B.D. Wong’s dance appearance are reported.
  • Martin Cove’s claim that his blood and lasting scars were real is explicitly doubted.
  • The game’s swinging axe and the repeated Fascination song from the first film are noted.

Apex Mountain

Macchio receives a tentative yes; an alternative Cusack-like career is doubted.

In the discussion (2)
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  • The answer is yes: making more money than the first film was good for Macchio, before Crossroads and My Cousin Vinny.
  • Avoiding sequels might have opened a different career, but the speakers doubt his range and see the return to LaRusso as appropriate.

Apex Mountain

Morita’s first film is preferred; Hawaii, other cast and toy drums receive support.

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  • Morita’s nomination in PartI is preferred; Hawaii posing as Okinawa, the other cast collectively and the toy drums are affirmed.
  • The sensei-student relationship joke is assigned to PartIII instead, which is teased for a future episode.

Cruise or Hanks?

Cruise as an American version of Chozen.

In the discussion (1)
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  • Sato is initially tested, then an American pupil or chief of staff is considered; Chozen is the final suggested role.

Hans Gruber Scale Villain Ranking

Sato starts high but falls with redemption; Chozen remains high.

In the discussion (2)
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  • One assessment gives evil Sato8.5; another starts him at9 and drops him to5, because he abandons villainy unlike Gruber.
  • Chozen is at least8 and committed to the end; his later friendly Cobra Kai incarnation is disliked.

Picking Nits

Tournament fame, breakup timing, travel choices, English and dubbing are questioned.

In the discussion (5)
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  • Children asking for Daniel’s autograph seems implausible to one speaker; another loves the exaggerated importance of karate.
  • Ali breaking the news at prom rather than before or after is questioned.
  • Sato and the woman could have traveled to America rather than wait decades; more training or fighting is wanted.
  • Japanese characters speaking broken English to one another should instead use subtitled Japanese.
  • The final nose-honk sound appears dubbed without moving lips and looks sloppy.

Is This Movie Better With…?

Brimley’s blackmailer and a critical soccer commentator are proposed.

In the discussion (2)
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  • The Firm’s Wilford Brimley is imagined threatening Daniel with compromising photos to force Miyagi into a fight.
  • Alexi Lawless is imagined criticizing Daniel’s winning performance from a commentary booth; Tony Romo is floated but not developed.

Just One Oscar

Cetera’s song replaces an initial Morita answer.

In the discussion (1)
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  • Morita is initially suggested, then Peter Cetera for Glory of Love receives agreement.

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Is Daniel good at karate, and would you choose him as a fighting ally?

In the discussion (2)
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  • The failed crane kick illustrates the limits of repeating a surprise move, compared with football plays.
  • Asked to choose a non-sensei ally, the speakers doubt Daniel would be a first-round pick and prefer Johnny Lawrence or Dutch.

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Chozen is also preferred; the woman’s life and future remain unknown.

In the discussion (2)
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  • Chozen and Mike Barnes are preferred to Daniel despite their losses; Sato is imagined as formidable, and the absent Miyagi fight is regretted.
  • Was Suki a virgin, and did the nice Sato end up with her? The speakers do not know; Karate Kid3 says nothing about Miyagi’s love life.

The Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson

Forgive and move on; do not betray your friend.

In the discussion (2)
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  • The forgiveness saying is endorsed as advice to move on, despite earlier doubts.
  • Avoid pursuing a best friend’s partner is the other lesson.

Best Double Feature

Karate Kid3 is the serious choice after a documentary joke.

In the discussion (1)
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  • Between PartsI andIII, PartIII is selected; the Peter North documentary is floated jokingly and withdrawn.

Who Won the Movie?

Peter Cetera and Pat Morita split the explicit choices.

In the discussion (3)
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  • Cetera is selected because the song is the film’s lasting association, compared with other song-defined films.
  • Morita is the other explicit choice; both reject Macchio.
  • Sato is an acceptable alternative but not a final ballot.
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More from the conversation

The episode sets up a future Karate Kid3 discussion but finds PartII better than remembered; the recap seamlessly restores the first film’s tournament atmosphere, compared with Rocky sequels.
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A prior negative ESPN trilogy essay is reconsidered: the sequel is praised as a strong Pat Morita vehicle and Miyagi origin/romance story.
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Daniel is criticized for provoking danger, asking obvious questions and being less compelling than Miyagi; sympathy for the antagonist is exaggerated for comic effect.
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The close intergenerational friendship is joked about through the airport declaration, housing arrangements and isolation from peers, with Marty McFly/Doc Brown as a comparison. The speakers question Daniel’s choices rather than establish any misconduct.
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The relationship and tournament chronology is questioned; Cobra Kai is praised for later embracing the idea that Daniel can be the troublemaker.
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Prom-night visits, enthusiasm for a passport-office errand, spending college funds and sitting together despite a vacant aisle seat are further examples in the comic relationship critique.
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Nine Miyagi aphorisms are read and challenged for coherence; avoiding war and not keeping a lady waiting receive the clearest support. Morita’s delivery is credited with making weak sayings sound profound.
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Morita’s ordinary speaking voice and Happy Days/comedy background make the Miyagi transformation impressive; modern child-star comparisons are floated.
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The predominantly Asian ensemble is praised, especially Kimiko, Chozen and Sato; Sato’s rapid transition from menace to benefactor is considered entertaining.
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A12-million budget and130-million gross are reported; the film is called fourth highest among1986 releases and more successful than the first.
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A participant suspects credited Chad McQueen was replaced by a lookalike in the opening, based on hidden face and behavior. This is explicitly a working theory, not verified casting; other missing Cobra Kai actors are mentioned.
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A participant theorizes Macchio was injured, causing the final fight to switch to tight shots and reduced movement. This is expressly unverified speculation.
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Cetera’s Chicago background and solo success prompt disagreement with labeling Chicago yacht rock; a partial August2 singles chart names positions1–6 and9, not a complete top-ten list.
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The Peter documentary and a reported meeting with its subject lead to adult-industry naming jokes; a future episode is floated, not a current theme.
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PartIII is teased for a later2026 episode. Kyle discusses his Get Up debut and return, then the hosts close with first-name production thanks.
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