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One participant cannot find a hot take.

Bill Simmons: One participant cannot find a hot take.

The film is called a perfect modern period piece, combining 1950s design with 1990s acting and cutting.

The film

L.A. Confidential (1997)

Directed by Curtis Hanson · Crime

138 minutes

Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

Kevin Spacey Detective Sergeant Jack "Hollywood Jack" Vincennes
Russell Crowe Officer Wendell "Bud" White
Guy Pearce Detective Lieutenant Edmund "Shotgun Ed" Exley
James Cromwell Captain Dudley Smith
Kim Basinger Lynn Bracken
Danny DeVito Sid Hudgens
David Strathairn Pierce Morehouse Patchett
Ron Rifkin District Attorney Ellis Loew
Graham Beckel Detective Sergeant Richard "Dick Stens" Stensland
Amber Smith Susan Lefferts
John Mahon Police Chief
Paul Guilfoyle Meyer "Mickey" Cohen
Matt McCoy Brett Chase
Paolo Seganti Johnny Stompanato
Simon Baker Matt Reynolds
Tomas Arana Detective Sergeant Michael Breuning
Michael McCleery Detective Sergeant William Carlisle
Shawnee Free Jones Tammy Jordan
Darrell Sandeen Leland "Buzz" Meeks
Gwenda Deacon Mrs. Lefferts
Jim Metzler Councilman
Brenda Bakke Lana Turner

Everything from the episode

In the order the hosts got to it. Open a row for the discussion.

1:03:51

Most Rewatchable Scene

Bud meeting Lynn, Exley arriving at the Night Owl and removing his glasses for the photo, and Bud visiting Lynn’s hou...

Bud meeting Lynn, Exley arriving at the Night Owl and removing his glasses for the photo, and Bud visiting Lynn’s house are nominated.

In the discussion (7)
Approx. transcript time · 01:03:51Read transcript
  • Bud meeting Lynn, Exley arriving at the Night Owl and removing his glasses for the photo, and Bud visiting Lynn’s house are nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • The interrogation scene is called a masterpiece, especially Exley moving between rooms, Bud with the chair, and deep-focus observers. — Bill Simmons
  • Bud killing the rapist, Shotgun Ed, Rollo Tomasi, the Stompanato scenes, Lynn seducing Exley, Jack’s death and the Rollo reveal are nominated.
  • Bud finding the photos, fighting then joining Exley, torturing the DA and the Victory Motel shootout are nominated.
  • The finale feels early to one viewer; its gun work and physical geography prompt comparison with Proof of Life and To Live and Die in LA. — Bill Simmons
  • The contrasting responses when the three cops are asked to inform are nominated, especially Jack’s face when threatened with losing the show.
  • The interrogation is selected for its live-microphone manipulation and switch sound effects. — Bill Simmons
1:10:53

What’s Aged the Best?

College boy as an insult is fondly recalled and compared with more recent political taunts.

College boy as an insult is fondly recalled and compared with more recent political taunts.

In the discussion (1)
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  • College boy as an insult is fondly recalled and compared with more recent political taunts. — Sean Fennessey
1:11:31

Most Rewatchable Scene

The interrogation scene is the shared final choice.

The interrogation scene is the shared final choice.

In the discussion (3)
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  • The interrogation is confirmed as the shared choice. — Andy Greenwald
  • Bud’s first visit to Pierce Patchett is another favorite, with praise for David Strathairn.
  • The post-shootout montage efficiently advances everyone’s story, though it skips potentially interesting freeway and party material.
1:11:36

The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance

David Strathairn’s brief Patchett performance is flagged as a Dion candidate.

David Strathairn’s brief Patchett performance is flagged as a Dion candidate.

In the discussion (1)
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  • David Strathairn’s brief Patchett performance is flagged as a Dion candidate.
1:14:50

The most 1997 thing

Young Crowe and Spacey on the poster are offered.

Young Crowe and Spacey on the poster are offered.

In the discussion (2)
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  • Young Crowe and Spacey on the poster are offered. — Bill Simmons
  • The existence of this kind of novel adaptation as a theatrical film is proposed; another response argues book adaptations remain viable. — Andy Greenwald
1:17:25

What’s Aged the Best?

Tabloid culture, outsiders’ difficult LA adjustment and interest in morally complex genre stories remain pertinent.

Tabloid culture, outsiders’ difficult LA adjustment and interest in morally complex genre stories remain pertinent.

In the discussion (5)
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  • Tabloid culture, outsiders’ difficult LA adjustment and audiences’ interest in morally complex genre stories remain pertinent. — Bill Simmons
  • Brief characters who become stars of their own scene are praised, including the coroner and Stensland. — Andy Greenwald
  • Patchett’s blackmail recalls Epstein; Dudley’s instruction about shooting criminals in the back pays off in his own death. — Sean Fennessey
  • Corrupt cops and departments shunning one of their own remain effective dramatic material.
  • Having someone cut to resemble a star and dated slang such as swish and AC/DC are enjoyed. — Chris Ryan
1:22:56

The Great Shot Gordo Award for Most Cinematic Shot

The layered interrogation reflection with Jack, Dudley, Exley and the waiting suspect

The layered interrogation reflection with Jack, Dudley, Exley and the waiting suspect

In the discussion (4)
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  • The layered interrogation reflection with Jack, Dudley, Exley and the waiting suspect is selected. — Bill Simmons
  • The split-diopter DA shot, Exley raising his badge in shadow, and police cars cresting the hill are praised.
  • The zoom framing Bud and Exley facing off in the street is nominated. — Chris Ryan
  • The moving camera contrasts the group comforting Stensland with isolated Exley; Bud above Patchett on the putting green visually divides them. — Sean Fennessey
1:31:00

The Butch’s Girlfriend Award for the Weakest Link in the Film

Basinger, reluctantly and without a firm argument

Basinger, reluctantly and without a firm argument

In the discussion (4)
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  • Basinger is written down reluctantly without a firm argument.
  • DeVito is criticized as an unconvincing Italian actor playing a Jewish character.
  • The unclear passage of years and heroin plot are raised, though the time issue is partly withdrawn. — Andy Greenwald
  • DeVito’s familiar comic persona and broad acting distract, although his opening narration works. — Chris Ryan
1:34:55

What’s Aged the Worst?

Spacey’s reputation and reported conduct toward Pearce are raised; Ellroy’s shifting opinion of the adaptation is noted.

Spacey’s reputation and reported conduct toward Pearce are raised; Ellroy’s shifting opinion of the adaptation is noted.

In the discussion (5)
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  • Kevin Spacey’s reported behavior on set toward Guy Pierce is discussed alongside James Elroy’s shifting assessments of the film. — Bill Simmons
  • Patchett’s house is again criticized as insufficiently extravagant.
  • The opening promise of abundant jobs, cheap land and homeownership, plus downtown-to-beach travel in twenty minutes, feels dated. — Bill Simmons
  • Bud’s beating should have killed Exley or caused more damage.
  • Using photos of Lynn and Exley to provoke Bud seems unnecessarily elaborate when the villains could simply kill Exley.
1:38:35

The Ruffalo / Hanna / Rubinek / Partridge Overacting Award

The mother identifying her daughter, named as Gwenda Deacon

The mother identifying her daughter, named as Gwenda Deacon

In the discussion (1)
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  • The mother identifying her daughter, named as Gwenda Deacon, is selected; the exaggerated performance becomes worse over repeated scenes. — Chris Ryan
1:40:14

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

One participant cannot find a hot take.

One participant cannot find a hot take.

In the discussion (4)
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  • One participant cannot find a hot take. — Bill Simmons
  • The film is called a perfect modern period piece, combining 1950s design with 1990s acting and cutting.
  • It is called the second-best Wizard of Oz adaptation: Bud needs brains, Ed a heart, Jack courage, Lynn home, and Dudley is the wizard. — Chris Ryan
  • Patchett’s exploitative celebrity-lookalike business is jokingly praised as commercially brilliant and compared with deepfakes. — Sean Fennessey
1:45:35

The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

David Strathairn, Ron Rifkin and Matt McCoy are candidates, with Rifkin’s first name corrected from Rob to Ron.

David Strathairn, Ron Rifkin and Matt McCoy are candidates, with Rifkin’s first name corrected from Rob to Ron.

In the discussion (3)
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1:46:56

The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

John Mahone is a favored choice as the police chief, with other authority roles cited; Paul Guilfoyle is also mentioned.

John Mahone is a favored choice as the police chief, with other authority roles cited; Paul Guilfoyle is also mentioned.

In the discussion (1)
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  • John Mahone is a favored choice as the police chief, with other authority roles cited; Paul Guilfoyle is also mentioned.
1:48:23

The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance

Unresolved “Adam”; Dick Stensland and Simon Baker also considered

Unresolved “Adam”; Dick Stensland and Simon Baker also considered

In the discussion (1)
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  • The brief answer is transcribed as Adam and remains unresolved; Dick Stensland and Simon Baker are other candidates.
1:54:12

Apex Mountain

No affirmative selection

No affirmative selection

In the discussion (7)
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  • Crowe is rejected; Spacey’s run is accepted, with this film versus American Beauty debated. — Bill Simmons
  • Pearce’s Memento period is proposed; another view favors his post-Brutalist standing, with concern about his social-media activity. — Bill Simmons
  • Chinatown wins for LA noir; Basinger’s Nine and a Half Weeks/Batman era is favored over this film.
  • DeVito is rejected; evil Cromwell is praised, though Star Trek and Succession are other favorites. — Bill Simmons
  • St. Elmo’s Fire and The Big Lebowski are raised for toilet dunking; dangling a man out a window is also considered.
  • The Aviator’s Howard Hughes home is favored for Hancock Park movie houses. — Bill Simmons
  • Heart-shot acting is nominated, especially the cartoon-watching victim and Jack; time to death is debated without medical certainty. — Bill Simmons
2:00:51

Cruise or Hanks?

Cruise as Exley.

Cruise as Exley.

In the discussion (2)
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  • Hanks as Hollywood Jack is offered, but Cruise as Exley wins the comparison.
  • Later Hanks as Dudley is suggested for a surprise villain turn, with Road to Perdition and Cloud Atlas discussed. — Craig Horlbeck
2:07:18

Sequel, Prequel, Limited Series, or All-Black Remake

A 1974-set sequel with Chadwick Boseman, Crowe and Pearce reportedly failed to happen.

A 1974-set sequel with Chadwick Boseman, Crowe and Pearce reportedly failed to happen.

In the discussion (2)
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2:09:09

Is This Movie Better With…?

A Zane Lowe impression interviews Dudley about his move into crime, followed by a Matt Reynolds variation.

A Zane Lowe impression interviews Dudley about his move into crime, followed by a Matt Reynolds variation.

In the discussion (2)
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  • A Zane Lowe impression interviews Dudley about his move into crime, followed by a Matt Reynolds variation. — Andy Greenwald
  • Adding Shams to the impression category is proposed through Sid’s style of basketball reporting. — Sean Fennessey
2:11:18

Just One Oscar

Cinematographer Dante Spinotti

Cinematographer Dante Spinotti

In the discussion (1)
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  • Cinematographer Dante Spinotti is chosen; the film lost all seven other nominations to Titanic.
2:17:14

What Piece of Memorabilia Would You Want From This Movie?

The Night Owl mug; Jack’s tortoiseshell sunglasses; Victory Motel matches (unconfirmed); Rollo Tomasi (not tangible)

The Night Owl mug; Jack’s tortoiseshell sunglasses; Victory Motel matches (unconfirmed); Rollo Tomasi (not tangible)

In the discussion (1)
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  • The Night Owl mug is favored; Rollo Tomasi is questioned as a tangible object, Victory Motel matches are unconfirmed, and Jack’s tortoiseshell sunglasses are offered.
2:17:51

What Piece of Memorabilia Would You Want From This Movie?

Fleur-de-Lis business cards are another subtle recognition item.

Fleur-de-Lis business cards are another subtle recognition item.

In the discussion (2)
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  • Fleur-de-Lis business cards are another subtle recognition item.
  • The Hush Hush cover seen in the opening is selected as an item to mix with ordinary magazines. — Bill Simmons
2:18:54

The Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson

The line contrasting men who get the world with an ex-hooker and an Arizona trip is offered as the lesson.

The line contrasting men who get the world with an ex-hooker and an Arizona trip is offered as the lesson.

In the discussion (1)
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  • The line contrasting men who get the world with an ex-hooker and an Arizona trip is offered as the lesson.
2:20:36

Who Won the Movie?

Russell Crowe; the writers

Russell Crowe; the writers

In the discussion (3)
Approx. transcript time · 02:20:36Read transcript
  • The opening answer sounds like Curtis Hansen, followed by a name transcribed as Hell, Golland; both identities remain uncertain in this passage. — Chris Ryan
  • Crowe is declared the winner for the breakout launching a decade of major stardom. — Sean Fennessey
  • The writers are separately favored for shaping the screenplay. — Sean Fennessey
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