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Independence Day

145 minutes

Cast

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Will Smith Captain Steven Hiller
Bill Pullman President Thomas J. Whitmore
Jeff Goldblum David Levinson
Mary McDonnell First Lady Marilyn Whitmore
Judd Hirsch Julius Levinson
Margaret Colin Constance Spano
Randy Quaid Russell Casse
Robert Loggia General William Grey
James Rebhorn Albert Nimziki
Harvey Fierstein Marty Gilbert
Adam Baldwin Major Mitchell
Brent Spiner Dr. Brackish Okun
James Duval Miguel Casse
Vivica A. Fox Jasmine Dubrow
Harry Connick Jr. Captain Jimmy Wilder
Mae Whitman Patricia Whitmore
Leland Orser Techy / Med Asst #1
Dan Lauria Commanding Officer

Independence Day | The Rewatchables

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Most Rewatchable Scene

The president's speech; Will Smith's dogfight and desert drag

In the discussion (18)
Approx. transcript time · 00:29:25Read transcript
  • There was only one rewatchable scene in the first 45 minutes because of character development; the reply jokes that the movie was 30 minutes too short and Will's morning routine should have run 40 minutes.
  • The spaceship arriving is listed first, with a complaint that people are never scared enough of a giant ship over their city.
  • Goldblum explaining to the president that the aliens are using the satellites to coordinate is listed next.
  • The welcome wagon being demolished follows; a question is raised about how few Black characters are in the movie, and nobody questions the orders they are given.
  • "Times up": everything starts blowing up, yet Vivica Fox's dog Boomer is sure to survive.
  • The aborted Air Force attack: Will Smith is on fire, Harry Connick Jr. dies, the parachute move, and the "Welcome to Earth" punch; whether aliens can be concussed gets the ruling yes, if Will Smith punches you.
  • Every best scene leans toward Will Smith; seen at 15 or 16 it was the coolest thing ever, a fighter pilot talking trash to the aliens with two one-liners.
  • Dragging the alien across the desert is where Will Smith becomes Will Smith, capped by the "what the hell is that smell" rant.
  • Trae Young is the current NBA star who could pull off the sequence; definitely not Ben Simmons.
  • The Area 51 descent into a secret facility, Adam Baldwin, and opening the alien's head with a slightly Total Recall second alien that is not friendly and the bulletproof-glass moment are listed.
  • The speech is a vote for most rewatchable, quoted through "We will not go quietly into the night" and "Today, we celebrate our Independence Day."
  • The speech had not received final edits and ran longer when filmed, per the account from Pullman; much of the first take is in the movie, and the onlookers' reactions were genuine awe.
  • The only change from the rough draft, per Devlin, was adding "today we celebrate our Independence Day" because the studio was starting to change the title to Doomsday; title plus release date in the movie is called a trifecta.
  • Three more: Will taking off backward with Goldblum and the "oops" exchange, the comeback landing, and the walk back with cigars as the women run to them, with Goldblum tall enough to match Smith; Top Gun did that return best.
  • A side Mount Rushmore of good guys returning to be greeted lands on Armageddon, Independence Day and Top Gun; Captain Phillips is floated for a fourth and rejected.
  • The pick is the Will Smith sequence, the air fight and desert drag, best watched as a stitched-together YouTube clip; the speech needs its lead-up like the Knives Out reveal, and the first destruction of the White House, Capitol, Empire State Building and Statue of Liberty felt real at 15 or 16. — Shea Serrano
  • Recognizing the L.A. tunnel where Vivica, Boomer and Dylan hide, the rewatchable scene is still the speech, set up by the president deciding he will fly too; it makes one want to go pick up litter.
  • Emmerich's signature is showing a thing and then exploding it, as in Godzilla, The Day After Tomorrow and 2012; a joke imagines him wanting to blow up the Phoenix arena during the Clipper-Sun series.

What’s Aged the Best?

Area 51 and UFOs; the alien drag; the sky-staring gag; the loaded cast; the 'better be good' official; 1990s effects; Nimziki; the first-to-know character; Goldblum-Smith improv; the title

In the discussion (11)
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  • Area 51 and the UFOs aged wonderfully, now that 60 Minutes is doing UFO pieces.
  • Will Smith dragging the concussed alien body is funny every time.
  • The staring-at-the-sky awe gag used in the Austin Powers movies is clearly ripped off from this movie.
  • The loaded cast includes Goldblum, Hirsch, Loggia, Pullman, Rebhorn, Randy Quaid, Margaret Colin, Vivica Fox, Harry Connick and Adam Baldwin along with Will Smith.
  • Margaret Colin's career did not happen the way it should have; she was on Chicago Hope, which lost the medical-drama race to ER, and she is good here and in Unfaithful.
  • The film perfected the aggrieved official who says "this better be good" after being woken up, such as a submarine captain whose job is to solve crises.
  • 1990s special effects are listed again.
  • Nimziki is a needed subtle villain for most of the movie, second-guessing Pullman and pushing to nuke Houston, compared to working in fantasy.
  • The character who recognizes the danger before everyone else and has to explain it is a favorite trope; Paul Giamatti in San Andreas is the one time the explanation felt right. — Shea Serrano
  • Goldblum and Smith are clearly improvising for the second half, which makes the heady spaceship-and-virus plot work.
  • A great title for a movie released on Independence Day.
In the discussion (4)
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  • The Rebhorn That Guy case is brought forward: a 1990s run from My Cousin Vinny and Basic Instinct through Scent of a Woman, Carlito's Way, The Game, the Seinfeld finale and The Talented Mr. Ripley, later Homeland; he is now simply James Rebhorn, and the award could be named for him.
  • Rebhorn is ruled ineligible as too much in the movie.
  • Dan Loria, the dad from The Wonder Years, is floated as a good pick.
  • Leland Orser, briefly in the surgery room and also in a famous Se7en scene, is offered and accepted. — Chris Ryan

What’s Aged the Worst?

Bad rip-offs; Randy Quaid's real-life weirdness; the sequel without Will Smith; Super Bowl blockbuster ads; the Miguel character; the Quaid kids subplot

In the discussion (8)
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  • Bad Independence Day rip-offs such as Volcano, and its influence on culture has probably not been positive; care is urged because Shea likes these movies, down to Lake Placid and Anaconda.
  • A run of blow-up movies followed, including Godzilla.
  • Randy Quaid got super weird in real life, making it hard to watch him now.
  • Independence Day 2 without Will Smith has no acceptable explanation; they recast Pullman's daughter instead of using the original actress and should have waited Smith out after his $50 million ask and conflicts with Suicide Squad and After Earth.
  • The sequel is compared to a Duncan-era Spurs sequel without Duncan.
  • The movie is blamed for the trend of Super Bowl blockbuster ads, starting with a $1.3 million spot in Super Bowl 30, part of a $30 million campaign with product placement, toys, an Apple deal, strong trailers and an early limited release.
  • Miguel, played by James Duval, is a bad Keanu Reeves rip-off; the Randy Quaid kid material, such as the car-sick scene and the disappearing daughter, would be cut, keeping only the scene where he is mocked.
  • Better Miguels exist, including in Kobra Kai.

Apex Mountain

Harry Connick Jr.; Bill Pullman; alien-invasion movies; concussed aliens; computer viruses

In the discussion (12)
Approx. transcript time · 01:08:42Read transcript
  • Will Smith: no, it is Men in Black, three for three, though this or Bad Boys is also floated.
  • His peak was not longer because he kept chasing the biggest box office instead of weaving in something different, not only because of Wild Wild West.
  • He passed on Denzel-type roles such as Man on Fire and Django.
  • Will Smith in Man on Fire would be welcome but could not be better than Denzel. — Shea Serrano
  • Harry Connick Jr.: with Goodacre, his music, the When Harry Met Sally soundtrack and a 1993 Christmas album, by Independence Day it is really happening.
  • Bill Pullman: yes, has to be.
  • Long dumbfounded action-movie stares peak with Jurassic Park rather than this, with Close Encounters also mentioned.
  • Vivica A. Fox gets a yes, countered by Set It Off where she is the star.
  • Alien-invasion movies: this over War of the Worlds, whose ship sound is better but whose baseball throw ruined it.
  • Concussed aliens: definitely, though CTE knowledge would put the aliens in protocol now.
  • The film is argued to be the apex of the presidency, before Lewinsky, with Dave in 1993 and The West Wing coming; Whitmore is put up with Obama, Kennedy and Lincoln, with nuking his own city a con and speaking and flying the pros.
  • Computer viruses are a last apex: early in the computer-virus era, the plot point worked.
In the discussion (7)
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  • All agree yes; it could be run back and Netflix should do it.
  • Will Smith should be given a boat full of money; the sequel without him made about $350 to $380 million and would have doubled with him.
  • One participant never bothered to watch Independence Day 2.
  • Not everything needs a sequel; this is a perfect standalone movie.
  • The sequel may have been made because someone thought the speech would make a cool trailer.
  • A sequel should be a rom-com love triangle with Pullman, Margaret Colin's character and Goldblum while rebuilding America, directed by Soderbergh and called Infrastructure Week.
  • The Netflix answer is restated as yes.