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Apex Mountain

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  • Apex Mountain is called too tough to say for Coogler and Jordan.
  • With the Black Panther performance polarizing, there is a chance Creed could be Jordan's Apex Mountain; who knows.
  • Jordan's path: Wallace on The Wire as a vision of lost innocence, Vince Howard on Friday Night Lights, a Parenthood stretch and a nothing part in Chronicle.
  • Fruitvale made him a star, then Fantastic Four as Johnny Storm and That Awkward Moment raised worries it was over.
  • Denzel's first ten years had shaky choices too (Carbon Copy, Virtuosity), but those mistakes were interesting while Jordan's are conventional because they are the only options now.
  • Next to more seasoned actors, including his Black Panther co-star, Stallone and Rashad, some layers are missing; Jordan is hungry and intense, compared to Angela Bassett at 10 all the time.
  • A joke says he needs a Man on Fire-style detective role.
  • His Killmonger is a maximum-intensity read of a radical character among classically trained co-stars; the hope is he works with other directors and then returns to Coogler.
  • The pairing is compared to Scorsese and De Niro; one panelist says that is unfair to Jordan because De Niro was positioned by filmmakers; Coogler communicates differently from media-trained people, 'so bay.'
  • Midnight Run is named a favorite De Niro performance, with a debate over favorite versus best.