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  • The Del Frisco's steakhouse meal made a speaker hungry; the side dishes are debated, with no vegetable in 'final meal territory'.
  • The hosts say F. Gary Gray put Del Frisco's in the film because they had been eating there and liked it. — Van Lathan
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  • Butler's character is Clyde Shelton and Foxx's is Nick Rice; the hosts say the names flipped along with the roles. — Bill Simmons
  • Few white men in American history are named Clyde, and Foxx does not look like a Nick Rice; Darius Jackson is joked about as the original. — Bill Simmons
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Approx. transcript time · 00:51:06Read transcript
  • 'Eminence Front' by The Who, remembered from Craig's favorite show Entourage.
  • A tangent covers the recent Jake Paul gambling ad with Piven and Grenier playing thinly veiled Entourage characters, which the hosts describe the Entourage creator objecting to; hosts enjoyed seeing them and would watch a relaunch. — Bill Simmons
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  • The flex list ranks body counts and consequences; Death Wish is fifth, with a joke about its total body count across the series.
  • The Equalizer is fourth: Denzel's character wipes out a Russian mob over three movies. — Van Lathan
  • Taken is third; its hero describes his own particular set of skills instead of having someone else explain them, a self-promoter compared with Trautman in Rambo. — Van Lathan
  • First Blood is second: Rambo was not bothering anyone, and in an alternate universe he runs an Italian restaurant. — Van Lathan
  • John Wick is first: after the dog and car, he kills 439 people in seven months, one of the worst mistakes in the history of movie organized crime. — Bill Simmons
  • Rebel Ridge gets a shout-out as another that missed the list. — Van Lathan
Law Abiding Citizen

Apex Mountain

Del Frisco's Steakhouse: this movie; Philadelphia law movies: Philadelphia; vigilante movies: Death Wish; Leslie Bibb: Talladega Nights

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  • Earlier aside: the film 'really might be Apex Mountain' for the long con, with ten years of planning; this is hedged. — Bill Simmons
  • Butler's apex is placed in the mid-2000s coming out of 300, and Foxx's after Ray and Collateral. — Bill Simmons
  • Leslie Bibb's apex is Talladega Nights, with White Lotus mentioned. — Bill Simmons
  • For Philadelphia law movies Philadelphia still holds it; for vigilante movies it is Death Wish; for 'Eminence Front' it is probably still the first episode of Entourage. — Bill Simmons
  • Del Frisco's Steakhouse: 'definitely'. — Bill Simmons
Law Abiding Citizen

Picking Nits

Clyde opening the door without the peephole; criminals randomly targeting a secret CIA killer's family; Nick shaking Darby's hand on camera; no camera in Clyde's cell; Clyde not noticing the warehouse break-in; a DA and a cop handling bombs; the uninventive final briefcase bomb; beating Clyde back to his cell; a prisoner running an underground base

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Approx. transcript time · 01:02:22Read transcript
  • Moved up from the picks: a master planner opens the door at night to strangers without looking through the peephole.
  • Two random criminals happened to attack the family of a secret CIA killer; a smarter version would make the crime itself revenge. — Bill Simmons
  • Nick shaking Darby's hand in front of reporters is the dumbest thing he does.
  • Nobody puts a camera in Clyde's isolation cell once things start exploding.
  • Clyde would have noticed the warehouse break-in, and a DA and a cop would not know how to handle bombs.
  • The final crime, a briefcase bomb under a table with no camera on it, is the least inventive; a purpose beyond carnage or a Bodyguard-style camera twist would have been better.
  • How Nick and the cops reach Clyde's cell before he does is unclear. — Craig Horlbeck
  • The biggest nit: a prisoner running a climate-controlled, wired underground base like Bruce Wayne makes no sense.
  • The blanket-over-pillow decoy is weak next to a favorite Eastwood prison-escape film with molded fake heads, which CR is said to love and which might be done on the show.
Law Abiding Citizen

What’s Aged the Worst?

Missing Philly accents; no Philly sports references; Viola Davis wasted as the mayor; Nick

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Approx. transcript time · 01:02:51Read transcript
  • The Philly accents are nonexistent; nobody tried. — Bill Simmons
  • There are no Philly sports references even though the Phillies were, a speaker thinks, in the 2009 World Series; a villain could have mentioned a Phillies game or Chase Utley.
  • Viola Davis is wasted as the mayor in about three scenes, used as a legitimizer, as in one scene in Out of Sight. — Bill Simmons
  • Nick: 'every time I watch it... Nick sucks'. — Bill Simmons
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  • The mayor swears Nick in as the new DA while scolding him for all the damage. — Bill Simmons
  • Nick is called the worst DA ever for shaking a rapist's hand on television; promoting him is like the Jaguars hiring Urban Meyer and then making him GM.
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