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The Karate Kid Part II

Hans Gruber Scale Villain Ranking

Sato starts high but falls with redemption; Chozen remains high.

In the discussion (2)
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  • One assessment gives evil Sato8.5; another starts him at9 and drops him to5, because he abandons villainy unlike Gruber. — Bill Simmons
  • Chozen is at least8 and committed to the end; his later friendly Cobra Kai incarnation is disliked. — Bill Simmons
The Karate Kid Part II

Picking Nits

Tournament fame, breakup timing, travel choices, English and dubbing

In the discussion (5)
Approx. transcript time · 01:18:42Read transcript
  • Children asking for Daniel’s autograph seems implausible to one speaker; another loves the exaggerated importance of karate. — Kyle Brandt
  • Ali breaking the news at prom rather than before or after is questioned. — Bill Simmons
  • Sato and the woman could have traveled to America rather than wait decades; more training or fighting is wanted. — Bill Simmons
  • Japanese characters speaking broken English to one another should instead use subtitled Japanese. — Kyle Brandt
  • The final nose-honk sound appears dubbed without moving lips and looks sloppy. — Bill Simmons
The Karate Kid Part II

Is This Movie Better With…?

Brimley’s blackmailer and a critical soccer commentator

In the discussion (2)
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  • The Firm’s Wilford Brimley is imagined threatening Daniel with compromising photos to force Miyagi into a fight. — Bill Simmons
  • Alexi Lawless is imagined criticizing Daniel’s winning performance from a commentary booth; Tony Romo is floated but not developed. — Kyle Brandt
The Karate Kid Part II

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Is Daniel good at karate, and would you choose him as a fighting ally?

In the discussion (2)
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  • The failed crane kick illustrates the limits of repeating a surprise move, compared with football plays. — Bill Simmons
  • Asked to choose a non-sensei ally, the speakers doubt Daniel would be a first-round pick and prefer Johnny Lawrence or Dutch. — Kyle Brandt
The Karate Kid Part II

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Chozen; the woman’s life and future remain unknown

In the discussion (2)
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  • Chozen and Mike Barnes are preferred to Daniel despite their losses; Sato is imagined as formidable, and the absent Miyagi fight is regretted. — Bill Simmons
  • Was Suki a virgin, and did the nice Sato end up with her? The speakers do not know; Karate Kid3 says nothing about Miyagi’s love life. — Kyle Brandt
The Karate Kid Part II

Who Won the Movie?

Peter Cetera and Pat Morita split the explicit choices.

In the discussion (3)
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  • Cetera is selected because the song is the film’s lasting association, compared with other song-defined films. — Kyle Brandt
  • Morita is the other explicit choice; both reject Macchio. — Kyle Brandt
  • Sato is an acceptable alternative but not a final ballot. — Kyle Brandt
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Most Rewatchable Scene

Opening diner; Barker’s Pub; the wish; boys’ night; Sarah’s death; dinner; bedroom corner.

In the discussion (13)
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  • The opening diner scene is proposed for establishing Bear quickly.
  • Barker’s Pub and its group dynamics are proposed. — Bill Simmons
  • Bear and Nikki outside the bar, including the wish, are proposed.
  • The cat memorial and Nikki staring at Bear and Ian are proposed. — Bill Simmons
  • The brief romantic-comedy montage is proposed. — Bill Simmons
  • Nikki’s unnatural movement and hiding in the bedroom corner are proposed.
  • The duct-taped house, frozen smile, bodily accident, and dead-cat sandwich sequence is proposed. — Bill Simmons
  • Boys’ night, the Hansel and Gretel monologue, and the kiss-left command are proposed.
  • Bear and Sarah’s dinner and Sarah’s violent death are proposed.
  • Ian’s billion-dollar wish is proposed. — Bill Simmons
  • Breaking the wish and Nikki’s return are proposed. — Bill Simmons
  • The dinner sequence is an explicit final choice. — Chris Ryan
  • The phone call that uses a false cancer diagnosis is proposed. — Chris Ryan
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