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A western rather than a cop movie

Mallory Rubin: The film is argued to be a western and love story with cops, rather than fundamentally a cop movie.

Mallory Rubin: The other response agrees that the police plot is mostly machinery, without the usual station scenes.

There’s never only one way

Bill Simmons: There’s never only one way is the agreed life lesson.

The film

Witness (1985)

Directed by Peter Weir · Crime

117 minutes

Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

Harrison Ford Detective Captain John Book
Kelly McGillis Rachel Lapp
Josef Sommer Chief Paul Schaeffer
Lukas Haas Samuel Lapp
Jan Rubeš Eli Lapp
Alexander Godunov Daniel Hochleitner
Danny Glover Lieutenant James McFee
Brent Jennings Sergeant Elton Carter
Patti LuPone Elaine Book
Angus MacInnes Sergeant Leon "Fergie" Ferguson
Viggo Mortensen Moses Hochleitner
Frederick Rolf Stoltzfus
Timothy Carhart Detective Ian Zenovich
John Garson Bishop Tchantz
Richard Chaves Detective Sykes
Beverly May Mrs. Yoder
Ed Crowley sheriff
Sylvia Kauders Tourist lady
Marian Swan Mrs. Schaeffer
Maria Bradley Schaeffer's daughter
Rozwill Young T-Bone
Paul S. Nuss Amish
John D. King Amish
Paul Goss Amish
William Francis Town man
Tom W. Kennedy Ticket seller
Ardyth Kaiser Couple in garage
Tom Quinn Couple in garage
Eugene Dooley Detective

Everything from the episode

In the order the hosts got to it. Open a row for the discussion.

36:30

Roger Ebert's review

In the discussion (1)
Approx. transcript time · 00:36:30Read transcript
  • Ebert awarded four stars, praising the adult love story, thriller and Ford's performance. — Bill Simmons
56:06

Picking Nits

Gunshot survival and recovery; unheard child; ineffective garage attack; spending criminal proceeds

Gunshot survival and recovery; unheard child; ineffective garage attack; spending criminal proceeds

In the discussion (7)
Approx. transcript time · 00:56:06Read transcript
  • Whether corn would kill is questioned, with suffocation, debris and inability to escape offered in defense; the greenhouse death in another film is compared. — Mallory Rubin
  • Racial profiling is objectionable, and surviving blood loss and infection with a poultice strains belief. — Bill Simmons
  • Book's rapid recovery to heavy carpentry, lifting and fighting is implausible. — Mallory Rubin
  • The killers should hear Samuel urinating, and his swift evasive instincts are questioned while admired. — Mallory Rubin
  • Samuel's unspoiled instincts could explain his quick response to danger. — Bill Simmons
  • McPhee should bring backup and finish the garage attack given the money at stake. — Mallory Rubin
  • How corrupt officers could spend such a large fortune without attracting attention is unresolved; retirement or hidden investments are suggested. — Bill Simmons
1:26:53

Casting What-Ifs

Robert Redford; David Cronenberg; Burt Reynolds; uncertain Isabella Rossellini report

Robert Redford; David Cronenberg; Burt Reynolds; uncertain Isabella Rossellini report

In the discussion (3)
Approx. transcript time · 01:26:53Read transcript
  • Redford reportedly sought the lead but producers feared disruptive rewrites; Cronenberg reportedly declined directing. — Bill Simmons
  • Reynolds reportedly wanted the part then withdrew; a Rossellini offer is treated as uncertain research. — Bill Simmons
  • Ford reportedly doubted McGillis before Weir persuaded him; whether this reflected her personally or inexperience is unresolved. — Bill Simmons
1:29:41

Recasting Couch

Geena Davis; Michelle Pfeiffer considered

Geena Davis; Michelle Pfeiffer considered

In the discussion (1)
Approx. transcript time · 01:29:41Read transcript
  • Geena Davis is supported as alternate Rachel; Pfeiffer is considered but her knowingness may conflict with the role. Lancaster/York is regarded as irreplaceable setting. — Bill Simmons
1:31:02

Half-Assed Internet Research

Role preparation; barn raising; silo safety; boycott; Kurosawa’s admiration

Role preparation; barn raising; silo safety; boycott; Kurosawa’s admiration

In the discussion (4)
Approx. transcript time · 01:31:02Read transcript
  • Ford researched Philadelphia homicide while McGillis lived with an Amish widow and seven children; Ford deliberately avoided Amish research to preserve Book's ignorance. — Bill Simmons
  • Character-based excuses for research are compared with Rupert Grint's homework anecdote, followed by sexual jokes. — Mallory Rubin
  • The barn raising expanded from a paragraph; the silo actor reportedly had a hidden scuba regulator, prompting concern and jokes about danger. — Bill Simmons
  • An Amish religious-freedom organization reportedly urged boycott; Kurosawa's admiration is celebrated. — Bill Simmons
1:36:14

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Jacob’s death; unshown intimacy; later relationships; adapting to Amish life

Jacob’s death; unshown intimacy; later relationships; adapting to Amish life

In the discussion (10)
Approx. transcript time · 01:36:14Read transcript
  • The upper-body-only bath and Book's toileting while injured raise practical questions. — Mallory Rubin
  • Jacob's cause of death is unknown; an orchestrated accident is jokingly proposed then doubted because Daniel appears incapable of violence. — Mallory Rubin
  • Illness compounded by inadequate treatment is another speculative explanation, with intentionally absurd remedy jokes. — Bill Simmons
  • Sex after the kiss is affirmed on the basis of the screenplay and DVD essay, despite not being shown. — Mallory Rubin
  • The location of that intimacy is unknown; grass, a grave, an unfinished barn and the dance barn are imagined alternatives. — Mallory Rubin
  • Whether Daniel could satisfy Rachel after Book is questioned. — Mallory Rubin
  • Continued contact between Book and Samuel is hoped for and considered likely, with a return visit potentially unsettling the marriage. — Bill Simmons
  • A later letter reporting Eli's death from poor treatment is a joke. — Mallory Rubin
  • Living Amish is appealing only in selected respects: Book and fresh food attract, while losing television does not; cream in coffee prompts a digression. — Mallory Rubin
  • Electricity, religion, showers, sports and media would obstruct adapting to Amish life; the initial belief there is no coffee is corrected by the movie's coffee scene. — Mallory Rubin
1:56:09

Best Double Feature

The Mosquito Coast
In the discussion (1)
Approx. transcript time · 01:56:09Read transcript
  • The Mosquito Coast is the double feature for consecutive Ford/Weir collaborations and a very different Ford character. — Mallory Rubin
1:56:59

Producer review

Unavailable: Craig is on vacation

Unavailable: Craig is on vacation

In the discussion (1)
Approx. transcript time · 01:56:59Read transcript
  • The producer review is unavailable because Craig is on vacation; a later response is hoped for. — Bill Simmons

Mentions across The Rewatchables

Recorded movie reference

Top Gun

The Rewatchables · aired July 23, 2019

Witness is listed in the sourced research for this episode. The precise discussion has not been linked yet.