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Unforgiven

year 1992decade 90sdirector Clint Eastwood

130 minutes

Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

Clint Eastwood Bill Munny
Gene Hackman Little Bill Daggett
Morgan Freeman Ned Logan
Richard Harris English Bob
Jaimz Woolvett The Schofield Kid
Saul Rubinek W. W. Beauchamp
Frances Fisher Strawberry Alice
Anna Thomson Delilah Fitzgerald
David Mucci Quick Mike
Rob Campbell Davey Bunting
Anthony James Skinny Dubois
Tara Dawn Frederick Little Sue
Josie Smith Crow Creek Kate
Shane Meier Will Munny
Aline Levasseur Penny Munny
Cherrilene Cardinal Sally Two Trees
Robert Koons Crocker
Ron White Clyde Ledbetter
Mina E. Mina Muddy Chandler
Henry Kope German Joe Schultz
Jeremy Ratchford Deputy Andy Russell
John Pyper-Ferguson Charley Hecker
Jefferson Mappin Fatty Rossiter
Walter Marsh Barber
Garner Butler Eggs Anderson
Larry Reese Tom Luckinbill
Blair Haynes Paddy McGee
Sam Karas Thirsty Thurston
Lochlyn Munro Texas Slim
Ben Cardinal Johnny Foley
Philip Hayes Lippy MacGregor
William B. Davidson Buck Barthol
Paul McLean Train person #1
James Herman Train person #2
Michael Maurer Train person #3
Larry Joshua Bucky
George Orrison The Shadow
Gregory Goossen Fighter

Unforgiven | The Rewatchables

host Bill Simmonshost Chris Ryanhost Sean Fennesseyproducer Craig Horlbeck
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What’s Aged the Worst?

Eastwood’s old Oscar quote; Woolvett’s career; Ebert review; Ned leaving and talking

In the discussion (6)
Approx. transcript time · 00:17:07Read transcript
  • Eastwood’s old explanation for expecting no Oscar cites not being Jewish, making too much money, and not caring; the first part is criticized, while possible joking intent and missing interview context are acknowledged.
  • The Kid performer’s later career is criticized.
  • Ebert’s original review is an aged-worst choice.
  • Ned leaving his companions is criticized as a dangerous abandonment of the group.
  • Ned telling his captors about Munny is questioned, beginning a dispute over whether the warning helps or harms.
  • The criticism of Ned naming Munny is defended as preserving surprise, while another view questions the downside of threatening the captors with Munny’s reputation.

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

Heat parallel; Little Bill’s rules; alternate perspective; deserved Eastwood Oscar

In the discussion (4)
Approx. transcript time · 00:27:18Read transcript
  • The film is compared with Heat through a reluctant criminal drawn back into action and a reckless lawman, with the two men as counterparts.
  • Little Bill’s no-firearms and no-assassins policy is defended as coherent, then challenged as authoritarian and incapable of preventing human cruelty.
  • A Little Bill-centered version would portray Munny as the mysterious intruder destroying a town, with Forgiven proposed as a title.
  • This is argued to be the film for which Eastwood actually deserved his directing Oscar, unlike some career-compensation wins.

What’s Aged the Best?

Westerns; photography; premise; Big Whiskey; dialogue; sheriffs; Beauchamp; Harris’s accent; score; title; Hackman

In the discussion (16)
Approx. transcript time · 00:28:06Read transcript
  • The beautiful landscapes and brothel photography contrast with Munny’s brutality.
  • The romantic Claudia theme lends unexpected tenderness to the filmmaking.
  • The opening title and grave-and-tree image establish a classical, romantic storytelling frame.
  • Westerns remain appealing and avoid the same sense of datedness as contemporary-set films; the setting is compared with the era before There Will Be Blood.
  • The lean revenge premise remains effective.
  • Big Whiskey is praised as a town name.
  • Young and full of beans is an appealing phrase.
  • The sheriff’s apparently unchecked authority is enjoyed as a dramatic device, compared with a fantasy commissioner and dominant coaches.
  • Beauchamp is interpreted as expressing Eastwood’s hostility toward journalists; the pants-wetting is speculatively imagined as Eastwood’s addition.
  • Harris dropping his cultivated accent for Cockney when leaving exposes English Bob’s pretensions.
  • The score and Eastwood’s guitar theme are praised, with Lennie Niehaus also credited.
  • Leaving very young children alone for weeks is jokingly called an appealing bygone freedom while also acknowledged as troubling.
  • Unforgiven is praised as a superior title and powerful marketing for an Eastwood Western.
  • Hackman’s performance has grown in stature, with the Beauchamp conversations giving the movie its heartbeat.
  • Munny’s farming and Little Bill’s civic order and house-building are interpreted as competing attempts at redemption.
  • Hackman makes morally compromised men enjoyable without erasing their humanity, compared with No Way Out, The Firm, Crimson Tide, and The Royal Tenenbaums.

Most Rewatchable Scene

Final saloon massacre

In the discussion (25)
Approx. transcript time · 00:39:31Read transcript
  • Munny and Ned at the fire discussing being farmers rather than bad men is nominated for its worn-out outlaw perspective.
  • The fire conversation’s recollection of shooting a man through the mouth is singled out.
  • English Bob meeting Little Bill is nominated as a dismantling of Bob’s bravado and a revelation of the sheriff’s brutality.
  • Little Bill resolving the mutilation through payment to Skinny rather than the victim establishes the film’s moral ambiguity.
  • English Bob’s train argument for monarchy, later mocked by Little Bill, is praised.
  • Little Bill explaining how to judge killers to Beauchamp is nominated.
  • The three rules are to remain calm under fire, not prioritize draw speed, and kill the best shooter first.
  • The climax is read as fulfilling Little Bill’s lesson, except that Munny kills Skinny first.
  • Skinny-first is defended because he has the most invested in protecting the saloon.
  • The competing interpretation is that killing unarmed Skinny announces that Munny will kill without hesitation.
  • Munny and Delilah’s conversation is praised for working despite seeming potentially mawkish.
  • Killing the first cowboy is nominated as awkward and deliberately unlike a heroic Western shootout.
  • Ned cannot shoot and the Kid is ineffective, undermining the image of expert gunmen.
  • The killers negotiating water for their victim adds to the scene’s unsettling awkwardness.
  • Davey’s prolonged dying and request for water underline the awkward, unheroic killing; the distress is jokingly compared with Will Ferrell in Austin Powers.
  • The Kid’s repeated question about whether the man is dead would exhaust a companion’s patience.
  • The Kid’s outhouse killing is nominated as a well-written scene that could benefit from a stronger actor.
  • The saloon massacre is called the obvious most-rewatchable scene.
  • The slow first stretch is defended retrospectively as preparation for an exceptionally strong ending.
  • Munny drinking whiskey upon hearing Ned is dead signals his return to violence.
  • The saloon blocking keeps entrances and everyone’s positions legible, helping explain why the crowd fails to shoot Munny.
  • Munny’s reputation seems to fill the saloon and transform him into an avenging figure, compared with Curry silencing an arena.
  • The misfire and awkward pause reveal the other men’s inability to act, leaving Munny and Little Bill as the real killers.
  • Eastwood’s stiffness as a reformed farmer contrasts with his fluency when becoming the killer again, making the return both thrilling and sad.
  • Munny’s threat while leaving is completely convincing because Eastwood has decades of authority with such dialogue.

The Great Shot Gordo Award for Most Cinematic Shot

Delilah foreground with Munny behind

In the discussion (2)
Approx. transcript time · 00:45:42Read transcript
  • The split-diopter composition with Delilah foregrounded and Munny behind is admired.
  • The explicit great-shot choice is the deep-focus Delilah/Munny composition, including the revelation about his dead wife.

Apex Mountain

Post-prime Eastwood; post-prime Hackman; Saul Rubinek; small-penis revenge movies

In the discussion (7)
Approx. transcript time · 01:22:27Read transcript
  • Post-prime Eastwood receives a yes, combining acting, directing, and the adjacent In the Line of Fire/A Perfect World period.
  • Crimson Tide is initially proposed for post-prime Hackman.
  • Unforgiven is ultimately preferred for post-prime Hackman’s career influence, distinguishing that from enjoying Crimson Tide more.
  • Freeman is rejected in favor of Shawshank.
  • Saul Rubinek receives a yes through this and True Romance.
  • Small-penis revenge films receive an affirmative response, prompting jokes about Quick Mike’s name and lack of accountability.
  • Westerns are rejected; the 1950s or1960s are suggested instead, with High Noon, Liberty Valance, The Searchers, and The Good, the Bad and the Ugly as comparisons.

Just One Oscar

Best Picture

In the discussion (1)
Approx. transcript time · 01:31:48Read transcript
  • Three choices select the film’s picture award over Eastwood’s directing award.

The Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson

Avoid murderers; people may not change; deserving does not determine outcomes

In the discussion (3)
Approx. transcript time · 01:37:23Read transcript
  • Do not confront murderers.
  • Some people never change.
  • Deserving has nothing to do with it: bad events happen, so try to stay out of their way.

Who Won the Movie?

Eastwood overall; Hackman on this viewing

In the discussion (2)
Approx. transcript time · 01:37:53Read transcript
  • Eastwood is the initial winner choice, with Hackman an attractive alternative.
  • A response says Hackman won on this viewing, followed by agreement and an Eastwood-wins qualification based on the Oscars and legacy.
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