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Chris Ryan: Richie and Chaz's exchange about writing a suicide note after regaining consciousness is a favorite.

The film

The Royal Tenenbaums (2001)

Directed by Wes Anderson · Comedy

110 minutes

Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

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In the order the hosts got to it. Open a row for the discussion.

37:11

Most Rewatchable Scene

Margot’s background-file montage (one participant’s final choice)

Margot’s background-file montage (one participant’s final choice)

In the discussion (17)
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  • The pre-credit character introductions establish the family through a stylized montage before the plot begins. — Chris Ryan
  • Royal's blunt response to Margot's childhood play is funny because he refuses to soften his criticism for a child.
  • Margot meeting Richie at the pier is elevated by Nico's version of These Days and the slow-motion entrance. — Chris Ryan
  • Royal's first secret meeting with Ari and Uzi is praised for his awkward introduction and inappropriate compliment about their mother. — Chris Ryan
  • Richie's tennis collapse uses the announcers and seventy-two unforced errors to make his emotional breakdown visible. — Chris Ryan
  • Every Eli Cash scene is considered rewatchable, including the mescaline introduction and his affected novelist persona. — Chris Ryan
  • The montage of Royal and his grandsons scrapping, yelling, and mixing it up is a principal repeat-watch choice. — Chris Ryan
  • Henry exposing Royal's fake cancer through tic tacks and cheeseburgers is singled out. — Chris Ryan
  • Richie confronting Royal outside the house leads to the exchange that Royal was never dying but is going to live. — Chris Ryan
  • Royal's confession to Etheline changes rapidly from a false death claim to a request for time, making the scene uncomfortably funny. — Andy Greenwald
  • Hackman and Angelica Houston play the confession in a wide shot without relying on close-ups. — Andy Greenwald
  • The Margot background-file montage is praised for combining exposition, visual detail, the private investigator, and Bill Murray's deadpan response. — Chris Ryan
  • Richie's suicide attempt is called the most affecting scene Wes Anderson had shot, even though one participant does not find it casually rewatchable. — Andy Greenwald
  • Elliott Smith's Needle in the Hay makes the suicide sequence especially difficult and powerful. — Andy Greenwald
  • Margot and Richie's tent conversation is selected as an exceptionally tender moment. — Andy Greenwald
  • The opening montage is praised for introducing a large unfamiliar world without the drag associated with long television introductions. — Andy Greenwald
  • Margot's background-file montage becomes one participant's final choice because of its effortless style, detail, exposition, and Ramones song. — Chris Ryan
47:59

What’s Aged the Best?

The soundtrack and trusting Wes Anderson

The soundtrack and trusting Wes Anderson

In the discussion (12)
Approx. transcript time · 00:47:59Read transcript
  • The soundtrack remains central, including the Clash, Bob Dylan music from Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid, and Vince Goraldi's Peanuts music. — Andy Greenwald
  • The soundtrack creates nostalgia for an Upper West Side New York that the participant did not literally experience. — Andy Greenwald
  • Luke and Owen Wilson's separate performances are praised as unusually strong and precisely suited to their different energies. — Andy Greenwald
  • Luke Wilson's mournful stillness is contrasted with Owen Wilson's manic external energy. — Chris Ryan
  • The Eli Cash New York Times Magazine cover is singled out as a visual detail that has aged well. — Chris Ryan
  • Henry and Etheline's relationship remains sweet, recognizable, and naturally evolving. — Andy Greenwald
  • Touchstone and producer Barry Mendel's choice to fund and trust Anderson is praised because the resulting film retained its detailed vision. — Andy Greenwald
  • The recreated book covers and the way they fill the frame exemplify production choices that became iconic. — Andy Greenwald
  • The physical comedy still works alongside the film's more cerebral humor. — Andy Greenwald
  • Henry's sudden fall at the archaeological site is chosen as the film's purest physical laugh. — Andy Greenwald
  • One concluding answer is the soundtrack. — Chris Ryan
  • The other concluding answer is Barry Mendel and the broader decision to invest in Wes Anderson. — Chris Ryan
55:56

What’s Aged the Worst?

Royal calling Henry “Coltrane”

Royal calling Henry “Coltrane”

In the discussion (11)
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  • Margot and Richie's romance is initially flagged because they were raised as siblings, although the movie emphasizes that she is adopted and avoids showing a sexual relationship. — Andy Greenwald
  • On rewatch, one participant feels less troubled by the romance than memory suggested because the movie leaves it unresolved. — Andy Greenwald
  • The film's childlike treatment of sex and romance is compared with Rushmore and Moonrise Kingdom. — Andy Greenwald
  • Making the romance more explicit would turn the film into something closer to The Dreamers, which the participants reject as a fit. — Andy Greenwald
  • The Charlie Rose-like interviewer groping Margot now reads as an unsettlingly accurate dark detail. — Chris Ryan
  • Royal's racial language toward Henry, especially calling him Coltrane, interrupts one participant's modern rewatch. — Andy Greenwald
  • The discussion places Royal's speech in Anderson's affection for Hackman's 1970s roles while still rejecting the line as cute complexity. — Andy Greenwald
  • The wedding climax is criticized as a slapstick collision of plot lines after the emotional climax in Margot and Richie's tent. — Andy Greenwald
  • The staging of Eli's crash and the dog in the wedding sequence is considered awkward and overcomplicated. — Andy Greenwald
  • The emotional release of Chaz telling Royal he has had a rough year partly redeems the ending. — Andy Greenwald
  • The final explicit answer is Royal calling Henry Coltrane. — Chris Ryan
1:09:47

The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance

Kumar Pallana as Pagoda

Kumar Pallana as Pagoda

In the discussion (5)
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1:11:02

The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

Seymour Cassel as Dusty

Seymour Cassel as Dusty

In the discussion (3)
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1:11:26

The Ruffalo / Hanna / Rubinek / Partridge Overacting Award

Ben Stiller

Ben Stiller

In the discussion (6)
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  • Ben Stiller is the initial and final winner. — Andy Greenwald
  • Gwyneth Paltrow is proposed as an alternate because she makes an active choice in every moment, even while doing very little. — Andy Greenwald
  • The participants clarify that Paltrow's nomination is praise, using Al Pacino's Vincent Hanna as the category's positive model. — Chris Ryan
  • Anderson's centered compositions, limited close-ups, and concern for movement constrain conventional overacting. — Andy Greenwald
  • Stiller operates at a different frequency from the rest of the cast but makes that intensity work.
  • The board-game-closet confrontation with Hackman is the main example of Stiller pushing the performance.
1:13:22

Apex Mountain

Luke and Owen Wilson; Gwyneth Paltrow (substantial case)

Luke and Owen Wilson; Gwyneth Paltrow (substantial case)

In the discussion (10)
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  • The category is jokingly renamed Mount Wilson for this episode. — Chris Ryan
  • Owen Wilson released Zoolander, The Royal Tenenbaums, and Behind Enemy Lines in 2001. — Chris Ryan
  • That three-film year is offered as evidence of Owen Wilson's career peak. — Chris Ryan
  • Gwyneth Paltrow is proposed as an alternate Apex Mountain winner. — Andy Greenwald
  • Margot Tenenbaum became an iconic visual character recognizable enough for repeated Halloween costumes. — Andy Greenwald
  • Paltrow's controlled performance conveys Margot's backstory and emotional truth in each appearance. — Andy Greenwald
  • Her run from Emma through The Royal Tenenbaums made her one of the largest actresses in the world. — Chris Ryan
  • The Talented Mr. Ripley and her Oscar-winning Shakespeare in Love are cited as part of that run. — Chris Ryan
  • The Royal Tenenbaums is proposed as Paltrow's last great movie before a career increasingly built around celebrity and franchise appearances. — Chris Ryan
  • The final stated agreement returns to Mount Wilson for the Wilson brothers. — Chris Ryan
1:32:46

Sequel, Prequel, Limited Series, or All-Black Remake

No ten-episode Netflix version; a six-hour HBO version acceptable to one participant

No ten-episode Netflix version; a six-hour HBO version acceptable to one participant

In the discussion (4)
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  • A ten-episode Netflix adaptation is rejected. — Chris Ryan
  • One participant says he would accept a six-hour HBO version. — Chris Ryan
  • The other participant wrote that the adaptation question should be burned to the ground. — Chris Ryan
  • Both ultimately oppose remaking a film they consider seamless and perfect. — Andy Greenwald
1:34:20

Who Won the Movie?

Gene Hackman (two votes); Luke Wilson (one)

Gene Hackman (two votes); Luke Wilson (one)

In the discussion (5)
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