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Chewbacca is the most overrated sidekick (disputed)

Bill Simmons: An early take labels Chewbacca the most overrated sidekick because his size makes him conspicuous and his speech is unintelligible to almost everyone.

The rebuttal credits Chewbacca as a co-pilot, mechanic, expert shot, and source of physical strength.

The film

Star Wars: A New Hope (1977)

Directed by George Lucas · Science fiction

121 minutes

Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

Everything from the episode

In the order the hosts got to it. Open a row for the discussion.

46:47

The Neil McCauley “A Book about Metals” Award for Best Line from the Movie

Han Solo’s rejection of an all-powerful Force

Han Solo’s rejection of an all-powerful Force

Flex pick · Chris Ryan

In the discussion (2)
Approx. transcript time · 00:46:47Read transcript
  • The selected line says the speaker has crossed the galaxy without seeing proof that a mystical field controls destiny. — Chris Ryan
  • The quotation was used as a senior yearbook quote at a Quaker school.
1:01:11

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

An accidental Luke–Leia sexual relationship; Han mistreats Luke; Star Wars is great art and a damaging industrial pre...

An accidental Luke–Leia sexual relationship; Han mistreats Luke; Star Wars is great art and a damaging industrial precedent

Flex pick · Van Lathan

In the discussion (4)
Approx. transcript time · 01:01:11Read transcript
  • The trilogy is said to become darker and better if Luke and Leia unknowingly have sex before learning they are siblings.
  • The imagined guilt is argued to give Luke a stronger pull toward the dark side. — Van Lathan
  • Star Wars is called both one of the best films ever and one of the worst things to happen to Hollywood because of its industrial influence.
  • Han is called a cock-blocking dickhead who pursues Leia and tells Luke not to get cocky after Luke's success. — Chris Ryan
1:15:55

Apex Mountain

Science-fiction movies, galaxy adventures, fictional mythology, Mark Hamill, 20th Century Fox, and Apex categories: yes

Science-fiction movies, galaxy adventures, fictional mythology, Mark Hamill, 20th Century Fox, and Apex categories: yes

Flex pick · Craig Horlbeck

In the discussion (11)
Approx. transcript time · 01:15:55Read transcript
  • Lucas’s apex is placed around 1981 after Empire and Raiders, though selling Lucasfilm for four billion dollars is another candidate.
  • Star Wars is judged an apex for science-fiction movies, galaxy adventures, and film-created fictional mythology.
  • The movie is accepted as Mark Hamill’s apex and a possible early apex for Carrie Fisher. — Bill Simmons
  • John Williams is difficult to pin to one apex, but Star Wars is preferred over later cultural competitors.
  • James Earl Jones is placed closer to Field of Dreams, Coming to America, or Mufasa than to his uncredited Vader voice. — Bill Simmons
  • Harrison Ford receives an explicit apex check and is rejected because his apex had already been named earlier. — Bill Simmons
  • The movie is an apex for 20th Century Fox because profits and stock value rose sharply. — Bill Simmons
  • The film is credited with beginning the cultural ascent of nerd fandom rather than representing its final apex in 1977. — Sean Fennessey
  • Its sound effects remain exceptional, including Vader breathing, TIE fighters, droids, and lightsabers.
  • The saga is called a leading story of absentee fathers because Vader reappears only after Luke becomes powerful. — Van Lathan
  • The film is declared the apex of Apex Mountain categories because so many people, crafts, objects, and institutions peak around it. — Chris Ryan
1:36:22

George Ellerby “Two Weeks with Pay” Award for Character Who Should Have Been Fired

Grand Moff Tarkin

Grand Moff Tarkin

Flex pick · Sean Fennessey

In the discussion (2)
Approx. transcript time · 01:36:22Read transcript
  • Tarkin continues the mission after learning the enemy knows a catastrophic design weakness. — Sean Fennessey
  • His choice is compared with a 28–3 halftime collapse and called a nightmare.
1:36:22

The Vincent Chase Award: Are We Sure This Character Is Actually Good at Their Job?

The Empire’s reliance on the Death Star

The Empire’s reliance on the Death Star

Flex pick · Sean Fennessey

In the discussion (2)
Approx. transcript time · 01:36:22Read transcript
  • The Death Star is challenged as an expensive and energy-intensive way to govern.
  • Grand Admiral Thrawn’s alternative plan for advanced fighters is presented as a better use of imperial resources. — Van Lathan