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Old School

year 2003decade 00sdirector Todd Phillipsgenre Drama
host Bill Simmonshost Chris Ryanhost Sean Fennessey
All 16 categories

Most Rewatchable Scene · 16:30

The kitchen scene at Mitch's new house: earmuffs and Frank with the hockey stick

Four opening nominations: Frank the Tank at Mitchapalooza through the streaking and the women driving slowly beside him; the green-hat oral-sex class; the dart-gun birthday party, including the bread maker re-gifted a third time; and Blue dying during the KY wrestling match, which may run into Blue's funeral and Will Ferrell singing.

Another nomination is the first meeting in the kitchen at Luke Wilson's new place, with earmuffs and Frank walking around with a hockey stick destroying things, watched eight times that week; everybody knows the guy who picks up the hockey stick mid-conversation and makes you afraid something will break.

The Neil McCauley “A Book about Metals” Award for Best Line from the Movie · 57:38

"Blue, you're my boy!"

It comes down to Blue, you're my boy; 'fill it up again, once it hits your lips it's so good'; 'I thought we were in the trust tree in the nest'; and the earmuffs exchange ending with Frank's 'cock balls', which the hosts re-enact.

The film

Old School (2003)

Directed by Todd Phillips · Drama

90 minutes

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Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

Luke Wilson Mitch "The Godfather" Martin
Will Ferrell Frank "The Tank" Ricard
Vince Vaughn Bernard "Beanie" Campbell
Jeremy Piven Dean Gordon "Cheese" Pritchard
Ellen Pompeo Nicole
Leah Remini Lara Campbell
Perrey Reeves Marissa Jones
Elisha Cuthbert Darcie Goldberg
Harve Presnell Mr. Springbrook
Artie Lange Booker
Matt Walsh Walsh
Sara Tanaka Megan Huang
Sarah Shahi Erica
Todd Phillips Gang Bang Guy
Bryan Callen Avi, the Waiter
Snoop Dogg himself
James Carville himself
Warren G himself
Kokane himself
Terry O'Quinn Goldberg (uncredited)
Andy Dick Oral Sex Instructor (uncredited)
Ashley Jones Caterer
Arthur Taxier Professor
The Dan Band Wedding band

Everything from the episode

In the order the hosts got to it. Open a row for the discussion.

35:59

Casting What-Ifs

Nothing found beyond the part of Beanie being written for Vince Vaughn

Nothing found beyond the part of Beanie being written for Vince Vaughn

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Approx. transcript time · 00:35:59Read transcript
  • There is nothing to report: little information exists, the part was written for Vaughn, and despite the oral-history boom there is no Old School oral history because there was no drama, just everyone in the right place at the right time; a sequel script was written but Vince Vaughn and Will Ferrell did not want to do it, and it would have been a spring-break film.
  • Earlier: Scott Armstrong and Todd Phillips, the writing partners, wrote the part of Bernard (as transcribed) with Vince Vaughn in mind, a comeback for him seven years after Swingers.
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41:12

Half-Assed Internet Research

A 2006 sequel script, Old School Dos (transcribed 'Dose'), by Scott Armstrong was turned down by Ferrell and Vaughn; ...

A 2006 sequel script, Old School Dos (transcribed 'Dose'), by Scott Armstrong was turned down by Ferrell and Vaughn; Luke Wilson said in 2016 he would do it; Todd Phillips plays the man at the door; Ferrell streaked for real near a 24-hour gym and shot it in two parts; Patrick Cranshaw (transcribed 'Crenshaw') acted for fifty years, played the sheriff in the Air Bud films and died about four years later; the frat house is a real Pasadena house on Bushnell Avenue used in Back to the Future, Back to the Future 2 and Teen Wolf

In the discussion (6)
Approx. transcript time · 00:41:12Read transcript
  • In 2006 Scott Armstrong wrote a sequel, Old School Dose (as transcribed), about the aging fraternity going to spring break, turned down by Will Ferrell and Vince Vaughn; Ferrell's 2008 explanation was that it had funny set pieces but felt like repeating the fraternity setting; one host would still have seen it, another does not need it after The Hangover 2 and 3.
  • Of the era's comedies, Old School 2 is the sequel one host would most want; great comedy sequels are rare, Austin Powers aside, Caddyshack 2 was a tragedy, Wayne's World 2 is defended as genius after it came up with McKay, Anchorman 2 will have a life once off Epix, and both Anchorman films have hours of alternate footage.
  • Luke Wilson was ready in 2016, saying he would do it at the drop of a hat; Todd Phillips plays the man in the curly wig who knocks on Luke Wilson's door for the gangbang, a role he reprises in most of his films including The Hangover.
  • Will Ferrell ran naked for real, horrifying locals at a 24-hour gym; the streak was filmed in two parts, the second in front of everyone during the Snoop Dogg performance, and he needed to get a little drunk first.
  • Patrick Crenshaw (as transcribed), who played Blue, had acted in films for fifty years before this role made him famous, played the sheriff in all the Air Bud films, and died about four years after the film.
  • The fraternity house is a real residential house in Pasadena on Bushnell Avenue, obviously LA, used in three Michael J. Fox films; the hosts guess Doc Hollywood and The Secret of My Success before landing on Back to the Future, Back to the Future 2 and Teen Wolf, and joke about Redfinning it as more attainable than the Boogie Nights house, though it may be a two-block stretch rather than one house.
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55:47

Picking Nits

Why Ellen Pompeo's character would ever touch Luke Wilson's character; why Vince Vaughn's character is written not to...

Why Ellen Pompeo's character would ever touch Luke Wilson's character; why Vince Vaughn's character is written not to be a cheater

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Approx. transcript time · 00:55:47Read transcript
  • The biggest flaw: why Ellen Pompeo's character would ever touch Luke Wilson's character, who spills a drink on her dress at the wedding after twenty years apart, is confronted on their date by a high-schooler in an Oakwood High jacket apologizing about her dad, breaks up her relationship with Mark, and has a kid to be stepfather to; the counterpoint is that she dated the scumbag Mark for two years, so her taste in men is terrible and she was barely fleshed out.
  • Why Vince Vaughn's character would not be a cheater: they had to zip that up so he stays within normal behavior, otherwise he is Satan; the scene where the girl kisses him and he pulls back is one of the best and weirdly well acted.
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1:02:26

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Who is the 2019 Craig Kilborn? Could the Luke Wilson part have been cast better?

Who is the 2019 Craig Kilborn? Could the Luke Wilson part have been cast better?

In the discussion (5)
Approx. transcript time · 01:02:26Read transcript
  • Who is the 2019 Craig Kilbourne (as transcribed), the stunt-cast non-actor who would play the two-scene boyfriend Mark: a YouTube guy like Logan Paul is too young, so a sports broadcaster is sought, with Joe Buck, Gus Johnson, Jim Nance (as transcribed), Mark Jackson, Jeff Van Gundy and Trevor Noah floated before Jalen Rose is settled on, though he would never do it.
  • Could they have improved the Luke Wilson spot: definitely not Harrison Ford; Owen Wilson as the star is offered, and one host thinks Luke was born on third base here and others would have been wanted more, while another thinks the role requires only being smart and a little spaced out.
  • A favorite thing about the film is that in some scenes a character looks brutally hungover because the actor is, such as Vince Vaughn paying for breakfast in the diner looking like his night just ended and Luke Wilson's circles under his eyes; the 'Godfather' greetings in front of a nonplussed Ellen Pompeo are a good Fight Club joke.
  • Luke Wilson could be improved upon but would not be changed by one host, who loves 'Denver, the sunshine state, gorgeous'; the Harrison Ford take is called one of the worst ever heard on a podcast, and the hosts promise not to raise it on every episode.
  • Earlier, the fuller Luke Wilson conversation was deferred to this category.
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