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Split: the opening party

Bill Simmons: Opening Stifler party/beer gross-out praised for comic setup despite bad taste.

Bill Simmons: Levy awkward parental education speech and euphemisms funny, Guest-era revival.

The film

American Pie (1999)

Directed by Paul Weitz · Comedy

95 minutes

Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

Everything from the episode

In the order the hosts got to it. Open a row for the discussion.

2:16

Apex Mountain

No affirmative selection

No affirmative selection

In the discussion (1)
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  • Wrapper retrospective 1999 highschool-movie peak; sample titles and generational/social-cinema explanations. — Bill Simmons
3:47

Who Won the Movie?

Jennifer Coolidge and Eugene Levy, retrospectively

Jennifer Coolidge and Eugene Levy, retrospectively

In the discussion (1)
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  • New wrapper 24 years-later reassessment: Jennifer Coolidge White Lotus and Eugene Levy Schitts Creek became belated breakout stars; retrospective pair distinguished from original ballot discussion. — Bill Simmons
20:35

Roger Ebert's review

In the discussion (1)
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  • Ebert three out of four stars, praises cheerful hardworking sometimes-funny and not mean; sweet self-deprecating characters all face comeuppance, critical batting-average banter. — Bill Simmons
29:44

Most Rewatchable Scene

Split: the opening party; the webcam scene

Split: the opening party; the webcam scene

In the discussion (8)
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  • Opening Stifler party/beer gross-out praised for comic setup despite bad taste. — Bill Simmons
  • Levy awkward parental education speech and euphemisms funny, Guest-era revival. — Bill Simmons
  • Webcam scene comedy acknowledged while privacy/consent offense condemned; early technology and humiliating timing contrasted. — Bill Simmons
  • Choir finale called among worst scenes yet badness rewatchable; stakes/lacrosse subplot and poor actual singing criticized.
  • Absurd house-to-house sprint as 80 s homage defended but modern consequences imagined severe. — Bill Simmons
  • Public classroom readiness announcement baffling; subversive parody vs inconsistent sincere stakes disputed, Airplane/Airport 75/Poseidon comparisons.
  • Final preferences opening party and webcam scene separately, explicit acknowledgment predatory conduct despite laughter.
  • Coolidge room encounter retrospectively added as rewatchable scene. — Bill Simmons
36:46

The most 1999 thing

Split: E-date and early webcam technology; Harvey Danger

Split: E-date and early webcam technology; Harvey Danger

In the discussion (6)
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  • e-date, scrambled television, Harvey Danger montage, Blink 182 cameo and clothes nominees. — Bill Simmons
  • Girls clothes revived, Jim collar/tshirt and Kevin Tevas/shorts/open shirt mocked. — Chris Ryan
  • Lacrosse-bro stereotype and sparse spectators considered; technology/e-date final preference.
  • Harvey Danger separate vote; correction band not individual, one widely known song. — Bill Simmons
  • Tara Reid/Carson DalyTRLrelationship added as most 1999 culture crossover. — Bill Simmons
  • Computer-mouse euphemism retrospectively nominated as 1999; Stifler homophobia also recognized as dated.
40:38

What’s Aged the Best?

Jennifer Coolidge

Jennifer Coolidge

In the discussion (8)
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  • Seann William Scott performance ages well; Old School animal trainer preferred by one; Goon career gamble, larger career expectations and Owen Wilson market-correction explanation disputed.
  • Finch stands out; Eddie K. Thomas expected Cusack-like career, character mature persona and sitcom trajectory discussed.
  • Coolidge room-scene comic performance remains memorable. — Bill Simmons
  • Film popularized rather than necessarily invented MILF term; Shampoo comparison and John Cho scene praised. — Sean Fennessey
  • Jim family portrait and bandcamp joke still funny despite latter becoming annoying. — Bill Simmons
  • Hannigan vocal resemblance to Greta Gerwig jokingly proposed; host reports wife praising Tara Reid performance. — Bill Simmons
  • Jennifer Coolidge final aged-best choice, agreement. — Bill Simmons
  • Shannon Elizabeth explicitly nominated for aged best: late-90s Maxim and Stuff stardom, later poker success and magazine-selling ability recalled, with uncertainty about how far the fame carried her.
50:31

What’s Aged the Worst?

Nonconsensual webcam plot, acting, relationship logic, racial homogeneity, and disappointing soundtrack album critici...

Nonconsensual webcam plot, acting, relationship logic, racial homogeneity, and disappointing soundtrack album criticized.

In the discussion (12)
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  • Secret webcam recording and broadcast without consent condemned, legal characterization reported from Wikipedia; foreign student bears consequences.
  • Student nationality/accent inconsistent and unclear; 2019 version imagined as horror because of consent violation and online exposure.
  • No ramifications for perpetrators of webcam violation; only student punished.
  • Rookie of Year child-star casting hook no longer salient twenty years later. — Bill Simmons
  • Savari and Klein acting severely criticized, with another neutral on Savari and suggesting Klein drags her down; prom-uninvitation scene singled out, Stifler physical comedy praised. — Bill Simmons
  • Pre-college breakup called unrealistic and disputed; college destination uncertain, first-term breakup judged likelier.
  • Stifler’s mom initially said to go to jail unless Finch is 18; corrected that he is 18, using the Scotch joke. The webcam broadcast and absence of police investigation are criticized.
  • Overwhelmingly white casting criticized, initial no Black cast claim corrected for choir teacher. — Bill Simmons
  • Soundtrack album disappointing because prominent film songs absent; Laid corrected as trailer song, revival and trailer praised.
  • Stifler misogynistic insults and homophobia condemned as material rightly unacceptable now. — Chris Ryan
  • Host guesses five virgin friends less plausible in 2019; another challenges the premise, so no demographic fact established. — Bill Simmons
  • Within their planned fifteen-film 1999 series, this is judged the worst and worst-aged despite being most popular; slate comparison only. — Bill Simmons
58:19

Casting What-Ifs

Murray reportedly declined Jim’s father; Hannigan reportedly chose the bandcamp role over Heather.

Murray reportedly declined Jim’s father; Hannigan reportedly chose the bandcamp role over Heather.

In the discussion (1)
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  • Bill Murray reportedly declined Jim dad; Hannigan reportedly declined Heather and chose bandcamp role; initial Tara Reid role attribution corrected to Savari. — Bill Simmons
58:55

The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance

Coolidge

Coolidge

In the discussion (4)
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  • Casey Affleck brief sushi-bar/cellphone scene initially sole nominee; availability/friendship speculation not fact.
  • Jennifer Coolidge single scene favorite counterproposal. — Chris Ryan
  • Stifler little brother nominated; compared with host son comic energy.
  • Affleck vote, Coolidge vote and agreement that Coolidge wins; brief cameo versus heat-check distinction debated. — Sean Fennessey
1:01:38

Half-Assed Internet Research

Ratings cuts, franchise spinoffs, Long Beach locations, practical props, sports preparation and improvisation anecdotes.

Ratings cuts, franchise spinoffs, Long Beach locations, practical props, sports preparation and improvisation anecdotes.

In the discussion (6)
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  • Reported four attempts to obtain R rather than NC 17 rating. — Bill Simmons
  • Four main films and four 2005–2009 directDVD spinoffs reported; Band Camp, Naked Mile, garbled third title, and Book of Love enumerated; no viewing claimed. — Bill Simmons
  • Reported Long Beach filming and practical prop anecdotes, Costco pie and egg-white drink effect. — Bill Simmons
  • Klein and Scott reportedly practiced lacrosse three weeks, body doubles handled sports despite convincing appearance.
  • YM Katie Holmes cover seen with Klein, subsequent relationship recalled. — Bill Simmons
  • Hannigan line reportedly improvised and retained. — Bill Simmons
1:05:03

Apex Mountain

Tara Reid: yes

Tara Reid: yes

In the discussion (4)
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  • Many cast career peaks proposed here; Coolidge and Levy rejected with Best in Show, SCTV alternatives and Schitts Creek question; Scott later 15 million third-film payday preferred. — Bill Simmons
  • Tara Reid affirmative; Biggs considered with Loser alternative, his performance defended. — Bill Simmons
  • Klein Election probably apex, better character positioning than American Pie despite similar persona. — Sean Fennessey
  • Casey Affleck mentioned as a possible exception in the introductory apex reasoning; no clear settled career-peak judgment follows. — Chris Ryan
1:07:37

The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

Shermanator / Chris Owen

Shermanator / Chris Owen

In the discussion (2)
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  • Joey Pants label settled after deliberate name jokes; Levy proposed but Schitts Creek fame challenges current that-guy status.
  • Shermanator final choice with agreement, actor Chris Owen filmography named; Leon pre-Russian Doll considered.
1:10:25

The Ruffalo / Hanna / Rubinek / Partridge Overacting Award

Lacrosse coach and Suvari nominated; Finch rejected as overacting.

Lacrosse coach and Suvari nominated; Finch rejected as overacting.

In the discussion (2)
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  • Initial no-overacting claim reversed for lacrosse coach seriousness; Savari emotional moments added.
  • Finch suggestion rejected as perfect performance. — Chris Ryan
1:11:09

Picking Nits

Sanitized aftermath, implausible streaming, private bedrooms at a crowded party and Finch rumor mechanics questioned;...

Sanitized aftermath, implausible streaming, private bedrooms at a crowded party and Finch rumor mechanics questioned; rumor mechanism corrected.

In the discussion (5)
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  • Physical aftermath of sexual scene judged implausibly sanitized; ratings/budget jokes offered. — Bill Simmons
  • 1999 streaming quality implausibly good, even 2009 comparison. — Bill Simmons
  • Large party but protagonists monopolize bedrooms without interruption or other guests. — Bill Simmons
  • Finch rumor campaign mechanics questioned then corrected: Jessica paid 200 to spread stories; questioner missed explanation. — Sean Fennessey
  • Finch putting-green and bathroom routine considered bizarre, another relates. — Chris Ryan
1:13:37

The Neil McCauley “A Book about Metals” Award for Best Line from the Movie

No single selection: Sherman’s introduction, the band-camp reveal, the computer metaphor, and Stifler lines

No single selection: Sherman’s introduction, the band-camp reveal, the computer metaphor, and Stifler lines

In the discussion (4)
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  • Sherman boy-to-man introduction praised. — Bill Simmons
  • Bandcamp reveal line praised for surprise, retained here as non-graphic description. — Bill Simmons
  • Computer-mouse euphemism praised and retrospectively most 1999 candidate; Leon delivery noted. — Bill Simmons
  • Stifler introductory exhortation and abrupt insult recalled; homophobic material condemned as dated.
1:15:24

Sequel, Prequel, Limited Series, or All-Black Remake

Ten-episode Netflix remake interests them; period setting and contemporary social-media versions debated, American Va...

Ten-episode Netflix remake interests them; period setting and contemporary social-media versions debated, American Vandal compared.

In the discussion (1)
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  • TenepisodeNetflixremake intriguing, American Vandal closest comparison; period 1986/1990 proposal versus 2019 social-media remake disagreement. — Chris Ryan
1:16:21

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Pact-backfire trope revisited; film popularized the acronym rather than invented it, according to unverified research.

Pact-backfire trope revisited; film popularized the acronym rather than invented it, according to unverified research.

In the discussion (2)
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  • Whether movie pacts ever avoid backfiring recalled question. — Bill Simmons
  • MILF origin answered as popularized rather than invented; reported 1995 Usenet use explicitly not personally inspected. — Bill Simmons
1:17:30

Who Won the Movie?

No consensus: Scott, Levy, and the Weitz brothers; Affleck also advocated

No consensus: Scott, Levy, and the Weitz brothers; Affleck also advocated

In the discussion (4)
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  • Casey Affleck preference defended for brief sushi cameo; MILFs worldwide joking collective suggestion.
  • White’s brothers proposed based on subsequent career; Hannigan / Leon career praise but Bill explicitly rejects Leon winner/performance.
  • Scott short-term and Levy long-term proposed, Levy and White’s brothers another combined formulation; Biggs newly bankable visibility considered. — Bill Simmons
  • Final Scott short-term / Levy long-term reiterated with agreement, another sticks with White’s brothers; no single unanimous winner. — Bill Simmons

More from the conversation

New wrapper fourth Wait how much money movie make Month; COVID delayed planned recording; reused episode fits hit theme, 130 million domestic 356 worldwide 50 budget reported in ASR.
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Late 90 s teen-film boom attributed to generational remakes, earlyinternet social cinema; now streaming/teenTV serves audience.
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1999 internet/Y 2 K/BlairWitch found-footage culture and generational teen movie experience; one 16 yearold friend outing, other too old but recognizes 80 s lineage.
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Teen sex-comedy lineage from RiskyBusiness/FastTimes through lower-budget counterparts; gratuitous nudity seen as marketing formula from AnimalHouse/Stripes/Nerds.
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Apatow later trope escalation comparison; unrated versus theatrical cut differences discussed as censorship/editing rather than new plot.
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Hertz provocative long script title and reader-address trick; 70 directors sought not definitely 70 rejections, celebrity rejection jokes; Weitz brothers debut and Antz writing background reported.
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Original script bore a long, self-aware working title promising an under-ten-million-dollar teenage comedy and directly courting the reader; the title itself is staged separately as a working-title candidate.
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Pacing slower than remembered; pre-easy-internet-porn marketing of nudity, straight-story counterprogramming joke, entertaining repeated viewing despite not good film.
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Defended as good then but aged poorly; Stifler, mom/band-camp cultural hooks survive amateurish acting/framing, long scenes and excessive a cappella.
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Despite American Pie’s lasting cultural hooks, a speaker says its quality is nowhere close to even a National Lampoon movie. This compares a brand body of work, not a specifically named film.
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Something About Mary gross-out success, Farrellys/AceVentura/RoadTrip/FreddyGotFingered escalation context.
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Virginity pact plot and pact-disaster trope; viewer experience changes with age; Stifler comic energy immediately attracts child viewer during brief supervised viewing.
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Universal foreign-rights sale at Cannes to recoup budget regretted; 235 million worldwide reported here vs different wrapper figure; visual comedy exports well, mixed reviews and 20 th domestic rank reported.
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DVD omnipresence in college like OldSchool, KevinSmith, Lebowski; Mallrats personal counterpart and repeated theatrical viewing.
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Superbad far better eightyears later via stronger acting/writing/direction, self-awareness and natural improvisation; Craig producer first-name mention only.
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Short-lived cast stardom contrasted with weak Klein/Suvari acting; Rollerball/Loser vehicles, Reid trajectory and Affleck/Lyonne/Coolidge/Levy longevity; Rundown praised.
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Reported Scott 8000 first salary rising 15 million sequel; franchise needed him and paid despite sticker shock; ShannonElizabeth and Scott draws.
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90 s restrained nuanced teen films contrasted with 80 s saturation and later return to simple formula; safe-sex education suggested reason, Matrix/action and rap-rock context.
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Shannon Elizabeth late 90 s magazine fame and poker career, firsthand Stuff publishing anecdote; not independently verified.
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Generational hot-mother teasing contrasted; personal highschool anecdotes including unnamed lifeguard tragedy are reported memories, not verified facts.
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Ithaca college versus Cornell destination unresolved; long-distance college relationships discussed via personal memories.
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Hannigan and Natasha Lyonne singled out as good actresses among weaker cast.
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Proposed separate cameo category distinguished from heat check, Affleck brief but narratively important; generational media recollection.
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Host recalls writing relationship-advice pieces for YM; article titles approximate, not exact recovered bibliography.
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Biggs performance defended as appropriate teen-comedy center; Klein better deployed in Election, same persona weaknesses used purposefully.
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Lyonne similar Russian Doll persona; sexual computer metaphor marked 1999, Stifler misogyny/homophobia condemned.
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Host guesses 2019 teen sexual behavior different; others challenge/defer, no population fact.
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Original 15 film 2019 celebration of 1999, 14 remaining; AmericanPie judged worst/mostdated but mostpopular of their slate; EyesWideShutplanned, Luminarypresenter.
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