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Groundhog Day

What’s Aged the Best?

Ned Ryerson; the $1,000 piano lesson; Phil trying to save the homeless man; the premise and redemption arc

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  • Andy McDowell's performance is offered as aged best: she cannot overpower Bill Murray and has to be sweet, almost a prop.
  • Strong disagreement: the character felt too pristine, toasting world peace, not a prize and annoying, though it is no reflection on Andy McDowell herself. — Issa Rae
  • One remark says it felt like a female character written by a man; another view is that the character was intentionally pristine, and "I think you're both right".
  • One voice finds her hot; the reply "Is she, though?" cites her 80s hair.
  • The Ned Ryerson introduction is quoted; "needle-nosed Ned, Ned the head" is among the most memorized words, and the actor is called a that guy.
  • The $1,000 first piano lesson, with the teacher shoving the kid out the door and the slow walk, is a favorite.
  • Phil trying to save the homeless man day after day is loved; Michael Shannon's first-movie cameo is noticed as overacting and deferred to a later category.
  • The entire premise of waking up to the same day, timely now as the Atlantic noted, and the redemption arc are called the best part.
  • After the break, the criticism of Andy McDowell is revisited: a pristine, boring love interest suits a bored Phil who talks himself into her, but a smarmy Pittsburgh weatherman falling for such a dull lady is doubted; whether she is intentionally uninteresting is left at possibly.