What’s Aged the Worst?
Dom and Brian surviving the 350-foot fall; the faded buildup to Diesel versus The Rock; Dom's unexplained Rio street-racing connections; Hobbs as the worst agent of all time; the four-minute lag in the Ocean's 11 stretch
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- Loving the movie makes this hard, but Dom and Brian surviving the 350-foot waterfall is probably not that realistic.
- The dramatic buildup to Diesel versus The Rock has lost its luster after a decade with the movie; in 2010 the news that The Rock would be in Fast Five had a real electricity that has faded.
- How Dom is so wired into the Rio street racing scene after three decades in LA is one host's worst-aged element; the other disagrees, since Dom has been in the wind since the first film, went to Mexico and then South America, and becomes that figure wherever he goes; this is again why he should have been in a prison movie, running a maximum security prison.
- Hobbs might be the worst FBI or DEA agent of all time: he loses Diesel and the whole crew in the favelas despite sneak-attacking them with AR 15s, cannot find the warehouse, lets them go at the street race, loses his entire team in the ambush, joins the heist for revenge, gives Dom 24 hours without realizing the safe was switched, and laughs at the end; he should just go to the warehouse where they took the vault, and his imagined report to his boss runs 30 dead, $38 million in damage, the money lost, the criminals gone, 'you've been promoted'.
- The movie lags about four minutes during the Ocean's 11 planning part and could be tightened.
- Asked where they stand on Elena, one host is pro-Elena: the young cop with a haunted past who wants to do the right thing and becomes part of the crew, a smaller Brian O'Connor; she looks about 5'1", and the hosts guess they had to cast somebody short because Vin Diesel is secretly short, around 5'3".
- The other picks nothing for the first time in the show's history because every part has a purpose; even the cliff fall is the moment the crew becomes almost superheroes, from fist fights in the first film to a parking complex falling on Dominic Toretto by the seventh; the one concession is that Hobbs's performance at his job is abominable.