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The Terminator

What’s Aged the Worst?

Future-war effects, dated chronology and hair, exposed nudity, a personal scooter association, the Harlan Ellison dispute, Ginger’s food and pet choices, and John Connor’s weak message draw criticism.

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  • The red future lasers and stop-motion endoskeleton look dated, although the handmade work remains charming and the machine-dominated future feels newly plausible.
  • The once-distant 2029 setting is now close, intensifying jokes about missing lasers and walking robots.
  • Sarah’s heavily sprayed hair is criticized while her later Mexico headband reveals a more timeless look; Arnold’s opening nudity is also called dispensable.
  • Sarah’s Honda scooter ages badly for one host because he later crashed the same model.
  • Harlan Ellison’s claim that the story borrowed from his Outer Limits work led to a settlement and acknowledgement that Cameron bitterly rejected.
  • Ginger’s enormous post-sex sandwich, celery with peanut butter, milk, and dark-kitchen routine feel like a vanished 1980s horror convention.
  • The iguana exemplifies dated offbeat screen pets, while future John’s formal message omits affection and useful practical information for his mother.
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Casting What-Ifs

OJ Simpson, Schwarzenegger, Stallone, Gibson, Selleck, Sting, and several Sarah Connor candidates form the casting what-if tree.

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  • Orion executive Mike Medavoy proposed OJ Simpson as the Terminator and Arnold as Kyle Reese; Cameron rejected Simpson as too likable at the time and the pursuit image as racially wrong.
  • Sylvester Stallone and Mel Gibson reportedly declined the Terminator, while Tom Selleck was considered because the machine was originally imagined as an ordinary man able to blend in.
  • Sting is the one Kyle Reese alternative treated as credible and exciting, though Michael Biehn is defended.
  • Lea Thompson, Geena Davis, Rosanna Arquette, Madonna, and Jennifer Jason Leigh are discussed for Sarah; Rosanna Arquette is the panel’s favorite alternate, while Hamilton remains perfect.
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The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

The unnamed-to-the-panel psychiatrist who later returns in Terminator 2 wins by being recognizable specifically as the franchise’s doctor.

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  • Rick Rossovich is rejected as too firmly known by name and better suited to Heat Check; Paul Winfield and Lance Henriksen are also too established.
  • Dick Miller is considered, but the returning psychiatrist wins even though the speakers do not supply his actor’s name.
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The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance

Rick Rossovich beats Bill Paxton for the heat check through a phone call, sex scene, fearless underwear fight, and unrealized post-Top Gun momentum.

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  • Paxton makes a strong 30-second case, but Rossovich has more material and returns to fight an enormous intruder without hesitation.
  • Losin’ It, Streets of Fire, The Terminator, Top Gun, and Roxanne looked like the start of a larger career that did not arrive.
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Half-Assed Internet Research

Research covers an abandoned liquid-metal Terminator, the theatrical pitch, minimal Arnold dialogue, performance preparation, studio notes, Cameron’s rights loss, and the death count.

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  • An early outline had a second, liquid-metal Terminator that available effects could not realize; Cameron saved the concept for Terminator 2.
  • Lance Henriksen reportedly arrived at the pitch in Terminator costume and makeup to demonstrate the threat.
  • Schwarzenegger speaks only 17 lines and fewer than 100 words.
  • Biehn studied Polish resistance fighters, while Hamilton filmed running scenes on a badly injured ankle.
  • The studio suggested a K-9 android for Reese, which Cameron rejected, and asked for more Sarah/Reese romance, which produced the hotel scene.
  • Arnold trained with guns daily for a month and received praise for realistic weapon handling.
  • Cameron sold away rights early, missed royalties from several sequels, and later described the loss as the price of a Hollywood education before copyright reverted.
  • Cameron voices the answering-machine date cancellation, and the estimated body count varies from 39 to 42 depending on Tech Noir.
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Apex Mountain

Mid-1980s Los Angeles is the strongest playful apex, while Cameron, the time-travel device, hotel-room sex, Ray-Bans, and Tech Noir receive qualified cases.

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  • Arnold, Cameron, Linda Hamilton, and Biehn are rejected because later work provides clearer career peaks.
  • The combination of Terminator, Beverly Hills Cop, Fletch, and the Lakers makes mid-1980s Los Angeles a defensible local summit.
  • Titanic is chosen as Cameron’s strict apex, though the cheap 1980s hotel sex scene gets a joking category peak.
  • The simple one-way naked time-travel rule is praised against later films’ increasingly elaborate mechanics, but the discussion stops short of a firm all-movie victory.
  • Top Gun beats this film for sunglasses, while Tech Noir may be the apex of Pico-area 1980s nightclubs.
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Picking Nits

Sarah’s age and independence, the living-tissue rule, Reese traveling alone and asking too few questions, missing identity intelligence, and later Terminators abandoning disguise generate the nits.

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  • Sarah is only 18 despite living independently, working, and carrying responsibilities that read as mid-twenties adulthood.
  • The writers admit the living-tissue time-travel rule lacks scientific basis, and it fails to explain why the resistance sends only Reese instead of a larger team.
  • Sarah scarcely interrogates her visitor from decades ahead, while Reese’s lack of technical knowledge makes him an odd sole envoy.
  • The machines can invent time travel but lack Sarah’s image, and Reese somehow does not recognize the mass-produced Terminator model.
  • This machine repeatedly conceals exposed machinery, a stealth behavior later sequels largely abandon.
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Sequel, Prequel, Limited Series, or All-Black Remake

A ten-episode version could cross-cut Kyle and John’s machine-war future against Sarah’s pursuit until the two timelines collide.

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  • The longer form could add pursuit and future backstory, though franchise fatigue and the elegant sufficiency of the original weigh against it.
  • Cobra Kai and Terminator: Dark Fate make the hosts more receptive to returning characters and unexpected extensions than the initial question suggests.
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Probably Unanswerable Questions

Questions cover genre identity, Kyle’s knowledge and survival, causal loops, Tech Noir geography, and the unrealized phone-book-killer premise.

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Approx. transcript time · 01:27:44Read transcript
  • If forced to choose one genre, the votes split between horror and science fiction.
  • The panel asks whether Reese knew he was John Connor’s father and agrees John probably withheld that information.
  • Kyle surviving is rejected because his sacrifice completes the story and audiences primarily wanted Arnold to return.
  • The time loop raises whether Sarah’s survival was ever truly in doubt and remains unexplained to the panel’s satisfaction.
  • The exact Pico location of Tech Noir conflicts with the chase’s Overland reference and downtown imagery.
  • They ask why the phone-book-killer method never became its own thriller and why Reese did not arrive early enough to have Sarah unlist her number.
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What Piece of Memorabilia Would You Want From This Movie?

Choices split among the crawling half-Terminator, Rick Rossovich’s briefs or Ginger’s sandwich, and Arnold’s red motorcycle.

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  • One choice is the practical upper half of the destroyed Terminator displayed on a living-room couch.
  • Another jokingly chooses Rossovich’s briefs and then Ginger’s sandwich.
  • The last chooses Arnold’s recognizable red motorcycle, imagined as a perfect conversation piece.
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