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The final basketball game is one choice

Bill Simmons: The failed beer purchase followed by Stiles van surfing establishes Stiles as a singular comic character.

Kyle Brandt: Scott's first home transformation and his werewolf father appearing in the doorway are praised as a funny theatrical surprise.

Mick’s threat about the Howard family stealing chickens

Kyle Brandt: Mick's threat that his family handled Scott's kind before and shot a chicken-stealing relative is praised as an extreme provocation.

The film

Teen Wolf (1985)

Directed by Rod Daniel · Comedy

92 minutes

Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

Everything from the episode

In the order the hosts got to it. Open a row for the discussion.

24:49

Most Rewatchable Scene

The final basketball game is one choice; the high-school party, first beer run and van surfing, first home transforma...

The final basketball game is one choice; the high-school party, first beer run and van surfing, first home transformation, first wolf game, and Coach Finstock speeches are leading alternatives.

In the discussion (7)
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  • The failed beer purchase followed by Stiles van surfing establishes Stiles as a singular comic character. — Bill Simmons
  • Scott's first home transformation and his werewolf father appearing in the doorway are praised as a funny theatrical surprise. — Kyle Brandt
  • The first wolf basketball game, the crowd's quick acceptance, and the newspaper treating it as an ordinary sports story form one candidate sequence. — Bill Simmons
  • Coach Finstock's locker-room sayings and three rules for life are praised as the funniest short speech in the movie. — Bill Simmons
  • The prom confrontation is funny because Mick sucker-punches Scott, yet Scott takes the blame for tearing Mick's shirt. — Bill Simmons
  • The final game is selected by one participant for Scott's late arrival, team play, Chubby's long shot, the montage, and the winning free throws. — Bill Simmons
  • The high-school party is the other final choice because Stiles commands the crowd and Boof aggressively pursues Scott. — Kyle Brandt
37:49

What’s Aged the Worst?

Basketball execution, the driveway scene, effects, representation, party material, romantic conventions, song lyrics,...

Basketball execution, the driveway scene, effects, representation, party material, romantic conventions, song lyrics, and soundtrack

In the discussion (11)
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  • Michael J. Fox's basketball form and the unseen hour of discarded sports footage are the first answers. — Bill Simmons
  • Mr. Howard and Boof's strangely intimate driveway basketball scene is judged more inexplicable than the supernatural events. — Bill Simmons
  • Looped basketball edits and a shot in The Fish That Saved Pittsburgh are cited as examples of poor sports continuity. — Bill Simmons
  • Scott's mirror transformation closely resembles the prior year's Terminator mirror scene. — Kyle Brandt
  • The lead actors read substantially older than high-school students. — Bill Simmons
  • The only Black student's appearance is tied immediately to a break-dancing gag, a choice described as dated even for 1985. — Bill Simmons
  • The excessive claw marks on Boof are called hard to justify now. — Bill Simmons
  • The party's unexplained floor game is called hard to justify now. — Bill Simmons
  • The familiar 1980s plot in which a boy overlooks his loyal friend for a more glamorous girl is compared with several other teen movies. — Bill Simmons
  • The 'Win in the End' verses are read as unexpectedly bleak and suicidal beneath an upbeat sports montage. — Bill Simmons
  • The soundtrack is criticized for lacking the recognizable contemporary songs heard in other 1980s teen movies. — Kyle Brandt
38:30

What’s Aged the Best?

The sex-scene howl, Coach Finstock, Stiles, straight-faced werewolf dialogue, and the accidental pants-down extra in ...

The sex-scene howl, Coach Finstock, Stiles, straight-faced werewolf dialogue, and the accidental pants-down extra in the closing shot

In the discussion (4)
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  • The final-game sports montage is explicitly carried forward as something that aged well. — Bill Simmons
  • The wolf howl during Scott's encounter with Pamela is praised as a committed comic choice while the underlying species implications are questioned. — Kyle Brandt
  • Coach Finstock's straight-faced dialogue and Stiles's energy remain durable comic highlights. — Bill Simmons
  • The closing embrace accidentally preserves an extra standing with her pants down, an unedited background detail the panel considers a lasting oddity. — Bill Simmons
40:01

Apex Mountain

Back to the Future is Fox’s apex; the movie is considered for most supporting actors, van surfing, werewolves, and hu...

Back to the Future is Fox’s apex; the movie is considered for most supporting actors, van surfing, werewolves, and human-wolf sex.

In the discussion (6)
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  • Bestiality is proposed as an apex because the wolf encounter is treated as human-wolf sex. — Kyle Brandt
  • Back to the Future decisively wins Michael J. Fox's apex despite the two movies arriving together. — Bill Simmons
  • Most other speaking actors are placed at or near their career apex here, with Doug Savant an exception. — Bill Simmons
  • Van surfing is proposed as peaking here before real-world danger curtailed the stunt. — Bill Simmons
  • A run of early-1980s werewolf movies, Thriller, and Teen Wolf supports the werewolf-apex case. — Bill Simmons
  • Twilight is the counterargument because of its large later werewolf audience. — Kyle Brandt
52:54

The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

Mark Holton as Chubby

Mark Holton as Chubby

In the discussion (2)
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  • Doug Savant and Court McCown are identified through their later television and movie work. — Bill Simmons
  • Chubby wins once his Francis Buxton role and stadium line are recalled. — Bill Simmons
54:16

The Ruffalo / Hanna / Rubinek / Partridge Overacting Award

The acting teacher

The acting teacher

In the discussion (3)
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  • Stiles is the first answer because he dials it up a couple of times. — Kyle Brandt
  • Pamela's performance inside the school play is considered as a layered alternative. — Kyle Brandt
  • The acting teacher is ultimately selected. — Kyle Brandt
54:56

The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance

The acting teacher

The acting teacher

In the discussion (3)
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  • Coach Finstock's television-creator background and family history prompt a long contextual aside. — Bill Simmons
  • The acting teacher is offered as a lower-minute alternative whose every line commits fully to the character. — Kyle Brandt
  • Coach Finstock is ruled ineligible because he has too many minutes, leaving the acting teacher as the choice. — Kyle Brandt
1:13:48

Sequel, Prequel, Limited Series, or All-Black Remake

A contemporary series with media, recruiting, tournaments, and multigenerational werewolves

A contemporary series with media, recruiting, tournaments, and multigenerational werewolves

In the discussion (3)
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  • A modern pilot could explore the national response when a high-school player becomes a werewolf in a game. — Bill Simmons
  • The regional-final ending leaves the next tournament round available for a series. — Bill Simmons
  • Pamela's possible wolf children and a later generation inheriting the trait are proposed for a present-day continuation. — Bill Simmons
1:24:48

Who Won the Movie?

Jerry Levine as Stiles

Jerry Levine as Stiles

In the discussion (1)
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  • Stiles wins because his shirts, humor, loyalty, and cultural memorability define the movie even as Fox moved to larger roles. — Kyle Brandt
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